User:Fluffy999/IRA and Germany 1938-1945 Project

I'd like to see more articles on IRA and German Intelligence in 1938-1945 period to offset the POV of media reports like this Statue of Nazi ally vandalised The Observer, 2 January 2005. If people are coming here to get the facts behind the news release, then they won't find much at present. There doesn't seem to be an awful lot on the IRA / Nazi collusion, and the entire 1940 - 1956 period seems a little barren also. Barren for an Encyclopedia I mean. Can someone advise on how to proceed seeing if there are any parties with a proven interest in the period willing to split up the work? Thanks- im a new user. Fluffy999 04:28, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Damac.

I posted under the talk page of Operation Artur about a week ago with an idea to collect the IRA stuff from the period 1938-1945 into an area. Heres a list of what im thinking about:

DONE

 * S-Plan
 * Operation Lobster
 * Operation Lobster I
 * Frank Ryan
 * Abwehr Fluffy999 15:34, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
 * IRA Abwehr WW2 - Shell document - these are 3 most common search terms for

NOT FINISHED

 * Sean Russell - need to add earlier German contacts before bail 1939 USA
 * Northern Campaign 1942-1944 (IRA)

IRA contact with German Intelligence WW2

 * Overview
 * Contact in WW1 (probably well trodden path already)
 * German Strategic thinking & IRA Strategic thinking
 * Addressing the allegations made- a lot out there, about S.Russell in particular


 * Important figures & roles in German Orgs. (the Abwehr article already exists)
 * Abwehr I
 * Abwehr II
 * Foreign Ministry
 * Embassy staff & roles


 * Important figures & roles in Ireland
 * IRA volunteers & roles
 * Free State / Eire Government / British MI5 - Eire intel sharing links
 * Abwer I Agents
 * Abwehr II Agents
 * Foreign Ministry Agents
 * Embassy staff & roles
 * Miscellanous figures outside Ireland- Francis Stuart / Frank Ryan
 * Northern Command / Northern activity
 * Interned German agents during period (probably come under the article internment in Eire)


 * so list some of the major figures, and operations, then break the documented ones off into their own articles. then break each operation down into:

Operations in Ireland

 * names/context

Infiltration of agents to Ireland
 * description of operation/history in ireland
 * IRA involvement- money, arms, spying on British troops, spotting for the luftwaffe
 * effects / outcomes - although this seems pointless. the activity was mostly over by 1943


 * German / IRA ops I know about:
 * Operation Taube
 * Operation Innkeeper
 * Operation Lobster I
 * Operation Lobster II
 * Operation Mainau
 * Operation Sea Eagle
 * Operation Seagull II
 * Operation Whale
 * FALL GRUN
 * Plan Kathleen
 * Berlin radio broadcasts / Prof. Muhlhausen

Then removing bad edits/articles like Operation Artur which appears to be uncited work not in the literature.

Think I will motor on with some of the articles, then when a few more are collected together start looking for collaborators who have the experience to help flesh out and make sure its all nonPOV, and wikied right etc. What I am unsure about is
 * O'Duffy, the Irish Legion Brigade
 * De Valera, neutrality, MI5 and hitler/franco/mussolini/Pope Pius XII etc.
 * details of Anti-semitism in the IRA - facts of it

Check the FAIR page below, im interested in building up a body of work that one way or the other establishes the facts of it all, while at the same time tying it together within a framework without being POV? all the abwehr / IRA stuff can be nonPOV no problems, but im not that familiar with the sensitivities around all the fascist/nazi stuff and all the toes that can tread on.

My aim would be to ensure that people have something better than POV articles from FAIR to work with.

Fluffy999 10:49, 4 May 2006 (UTC)