User:Fvw/TalkArchive/1

You like to delete, don't you?
I think one sandbox is good, but wouldn't two (or three) be better?

Deleting my entries
Not sure what your criteria are for "famous" glbt people, but with over 1,000,000 readers of my books, and columns in various magazines and newspapers and journals, I'm told I have fairly high name recognition at least in some circles. You make me feel that my efforts are a vanity-plea, when my goal is to join the list of reasonably well known bisexuals because I think it is important for folks to be out in a very visible way. I will certainly bow to the wishes of the Wiki community, but you seem particularly intent on removing my entries, and I wondered why. Feel free to write to jliberty@ActonEquality.org for private correspondence, if you prefer. - --jesse

Marking Vfd as minor
Hi,

sorry, that was a brainless mistake...probably should't edit while talking on the phone :p -- Ferkelparade &pi; 12:58, 20 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Thanks
Thank you very much for your vote for my adminship. I greatly appreciate your support. ffirehorse 00:17, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC)

User:Bonnie Bianco
What's the deal (if any) with you and User:Bonnie Bianco? She appears to have copied part of your user page and you immediately reverted most of her link spam. Is this a long standing feud? Is adding her to vandalism in progress necessary? --fvw 19:08, 2004 Oct 27 (UTC)
 * Not as far as I'm aware. She modified a few of the music pages I watch, adding the same lyrics site, a few days after I'd reverted an anon making the same changes.  So I reverted them again.  Why she nicked by user page, I'll never know.  No need for further action unless it escalates -- GWO

Your Gay rights timeline revert
You said in an edit comment: "(rv: please don't hide removal of perfectly correct and relevant information behind a "minor edit" mark. Also, don't remove said perfectly correct and relevant information.)"

Thank you for being a watchdog. I want to assure you that I was not censoring, just correcting a minor error by an anonymous user who posted information in the wrong article.

I removed the Nov. 2 as a minor edit for the following reasons:
 * 1) Date-specific entries belong in the specific "year in gay rights" pages. Therefore the date-specific information was not relevant to the article.
 * 2) The information was already in the 2004 in gay rights article  here, therefore was redundant.

Being that the information was origainally added by an anonymous poster and the information was redundant since it already existed on the correct "year in" page, I simply deleted it as a well-meaning, but minor error made by an inexerpienced first-time editor.

In the future, when you revert edits by registered users, it is polite practice to tell them so on their talk page. Thanks again for keeping such a watchful eye on WP, and in particular the gay rights articles. - D AVODD  [[User_talk:Davodd|« TALK »]] 04:04, Nov 10, 2004 (UTC)

Talk pages
DO NOT delete other people's comments from Talk pages. RickK 23:49, Nov 10, 2004 (UTC)

I prefer "thou shalt not suffer a troll/vandal to live." RickK 00:01, Nov 11, 2004 (UTC)

Speedy deletion
Thanks, you learn something new about Wikipedia every day! DomCleal 16:43, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)

list of exponential topics

 * Delete, no need to have duplicate data structures. If it gets kept it should at least be renamed, List of exponential topics &ne; List of topics to do with exponentiation, though I have no idea what it does mean. --fvw* 19:40, 2004 Nov 11 (UTC)

List of exponential topics is definitely a better name than list of topics to do with exponentiation or anything similar, because the topics are not primarily about exponentiation, but about exponential functions with fixed base, with the argument in the exponent. Those are among the most important functions in mathematics. As for "duplicate data structures", a category is a primitive thing that cannot duplicate what a topics list can do. This topics list now has an invisible link to the discussion page for each article so that clicking on "related changes" will include those. Many topics lists such list of combinatorics topics are organized, and a category lacks that ability (that hasn't yet been done with list of exponential topics, nor is it long enough for there to be much need, but it could evolve). Furthermore, notice that your suggestion that the list be renamed would not be easy to carry out if it were a category: you can't change the name of a category without editing every page that it links to. Michael Hardy 02:05, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)

...and just in case you missed it:

A topics list cannot be superseded by a category. Categories are a tool of primitive cave-dwellers who communicate only by grunting; topics lists are used by civilized people who can read and write and have refined tastes. I would rather abolish categories completely.


 * You cannot change the title of a category without editing every page that links to it.


 * You cannot exploit invisible links to discussion pages in a category the way you can on a topics list (so that when you click on "related changes" you see changes to discussion pages as well as to articles).


 * You cannot put "red links" in a category, inviting people to create pages.


 * You cannot adapt the organization and layout of the list of articles to the topic.


 * You have to read that "There are 1 subcategories [sic!] ...."

If we're going to use categories to replace topics lists, why don't we abolish computers while we're at it and just use paper? And then abolish that and carve words in stone? And then abolish language and go back to grunting. And then abolish communication. Michael Hardy 00:36, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Why delete?
Hi, I'd appreciate it if you would qualify the delete vote you placed on an article that i created: textfiles.com. As your's was basically the first delete vote, since not even the nominator wanted to see it deleted, I think it is important to provide a reason for why you want it deleted. If it is because the bad behaviour of a number of other people involved, then respectfully I don't think that's a valid reason, even though I can understand it. &mdash; David Remahl 16:30, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * Would you not be interested in reading encyclopaedic info about a speciality bookstore (well, not books but perhaps scrolls) from the Roman times? I feel sorry for the historians of the future...But I respect your vote, thanks a lot for taking the time to explain it! &mdash; David Remahl 16:50, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * What about from the Library of Alexandria, or the Louvre? This "bookstore" has been gone for 1600 years, and it is notable. I am interested in reading about it. Keep your analogies straight.McKay 04:22, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * My analogy was specifically to a bookstore, not a huge library. The Library of Alexandria and Louvre would be compared to The Library of Congress (at least with a U.S. mindset) and the Louvre today, not to textfiles. Lets not exaggerate the importance of BBSes either. They were fringe, even in their prime days. &mdash; David Remahl 06:46, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for telling me about my mistake on VFD :).--[[User:Marie Rowley|Marie | Talk]] 01:59, 24 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Paul Eastlund
I assure you, we're trying to make serious pages; jokes were for the first draft only, and we were surprised to discover people pounce on them before we could take them out. Please leave us alone as we build this.

v
v? Evercat 03:08, 24 Nov 2004 (UTC)

LOL, OK, thanks. :-) Evercat 03:11, 24 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Re: Madonna (entertainer)
Hi; I've formally warned the user and reverted his/her latest revert. If we're lucky s/he will follow my advice; if not, I'll set a block. -- Hadal 07:32, 24 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Quality management
Your speedy deletion notice on Quality management gave me quite a smile. Thanks for brightening my morning :-) andy 08:44, 24 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Dash
Don't you like dashes? Or do you feel that I am of questionable character? :-) &#8212;[[User:MikeX|MikeX (Talk)]] 12:31, Nov 24, 2004 (UTC)

vfd
"It's like sunshine on a cloudy day!" :) [[User:GRider|GRider\talk]] 00:22, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Black Metal
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Black_metal&diff=0&oldid=7828539 I don't see my comment as a review. It is to point that Norwegian scene just isn't as glorious as it once was. And that there is BM also elsewhere than in Norway. And it relates to text written above, where there's a long text about Norway and how the thing started there. But maybe my statement was unclear. And actually I forgot to remove the text, so not a big deal.

Madonna Page Updates - My Sources
I have updated the Madonna page with a "Fun Facts" section with some of my info. and listed my sources in the Discussion section, PLEASE don't delete it! MadonnaFan

That's not true, I still have a spare tank
Thanks, that just made my day :) -- Ferkelparade &pi; 02:22, 26 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Tarish
Why do you find the language spoken by many people to be not notable? Do you dislike the Irish Travelers? -- Rachel

Tarish
People use encylopedias to learn about things that they don't know about. There is a page for the Klingon Language which is a fictional language! Surely, one page for a language used by an ethnic minority is just as worthy as that for a fake language used on tv. There are over 6,000 languages. Alot of people are interested in rare languages. --Ms. Greenberg 14:12, 26 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * Absolutely! This crusade to delete articles is strange indeed. - Robert the Bruce 07:05, 27 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Strange Apostrophes
I've noticed you've started editing entries and inserting strange apostrophes and double quotes into them. I think because you are not using the HTML entity codes for them, that they will not show up in web browsers other than Internet Explorer for Windows. At least, your apostrophes show up as question marks with Safari or FireFox.

One sample entry is Luisa Todi. Thanks.

Helixblue 15:31, 27 Nov 2004 (UTC)

VfD Foreskin fetish
I note with interest that you have arbitrarily decided to add a VfD tag to this article. Would it be deliberate that Circumcision fetish avoided your attention? Consider this to be a test of your bias. - Robert the Bruce 16:03, 27 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Eu flag
"Nifty ASCII EU flag. Sadly it doesn't quite work in most fonts. Did you do it by hand or algorithmically? --fvw* 17:47, 2004 Nov 27 (UTC)"
 * Thanks. I did the base on a program and improved it by hand. What font would you think shows it the best? I thought I should reply here, although I haven't seen any ethiquette of talk-page behaviour. :) --kooo 18:30, 2004 Nov 27 (UTC)


 * I set up some preferred fonts now, you may suggest some more to the list if you wish. It should work better now for those people, who dont have the font courier set up as default font (I do). Does it show up ok? --kooo 09:52, Nov 28, 2004 (UTC)

Adminship
Self-nomination is an excellent facility! I used it myself with great success. &mdash; David Remahl 20:19, 27 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Requests for adminship/Fvw. :-) Evercat 21:52, 27 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Thanks and a question
Hey. Thanks for the welcome template ;) I actually have a quick question for you if you know the answer. Bridget Bishop just got created and it's a blatant copy-paste job of . I put a note in the talk page of that entry, but I'm not sure where else to indicate this problem. Should I just nuke all the content on the entry? VfD it? etc...? Not quite sure what to do with it. Thanks! Zachlipton 21:27, 27 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Well that was fast. Thanks :) Zachlipton 21:27, 27 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Codepages
Hey, thanks for trying to fixup Arbitration Committee Elections December 2004/Candidate statements, however you brought it back to its original broken state. The English Wikipedia is in the ISO-8859-1 character encoding (alas). Curly quotes, emdashes and such are not legal characters (you can ofcourse insert them as HTML entities). See Help:Special characters for more info. (Oh, and just for pedantries sake, I didn't insert the windows codepage stuff, I (or my browser, to be precise) replaced the illegal characters with ?'s (not the most elegant solution, admittedly, but you can hardly expect my browser to know it's CP-1252 when the server's claiming it's ISO-8859-1)). --fvw* 00:49, 2004 Nov 28 (UTC)
 * Are you sure those wern't normal apostrophes? They showed up as such on my system, and I'm on Linux, so I'm reasonably sure there arn't any windows-codepage things involved. --Improv 00:53, 28 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * Positive. All modern browsers render it correctly, even under linux. My browser (opera) renders correctly too, but in good engineering tradition is more strict in what it sends than in what it receives. What is odd is that a non-microsoft browser would actually generate CP-1252 characters instead of proper ISO-8859-1. Or did you do a partial revert? --fvw* 00:57, 2004 Nov 28 (UTC)
 * I did start with a partial revert, and re-incorporated your changes. Would you mind doing the honors and sticking the apostrophes in? --Improv 01:01, 28 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Sweet!
Nice work! --mav 06:56, 29 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Carried away on VfD?
I know you mean well, but don't you think you're getting a bit too carried away on VfD? Some of your most recent listings ranged from borderline to clearly notable. &mdash;[[en:RaD Man|RaD Man (talk)]] 07:19, 29 Nov 2004 (UTC)