User:Fyunck(click)/sandbox/charts2

Current RfC approved chart

Non-approved chart wanted by Wolbo

Option 1

Option 2

Option 3

Option 4

Option 5

or we could make it just a year (or month and year) instead of the whole date. We would link the date with the actual draw. Option 6

looking at option 4 with a W–L column

with just a month instead of a day.

swapping location of category/tournament

and with full color bar

possibilities
I think we have some choices here, none of which are my favs, but I can accept them if everyone wants a particular chart. These are compromises from our current Guidelines and grandfathered career finals charts. We are trying to have one chart for all career finals instead of new charts and old charts. It would be great to get a unanimous thumbs up on one of these because we all have to back each other up on guideline usage with new editors. And remember, this chart would slowly replace every ITF/Challenger/ATP/WTA career chart that we currently have. Obviously not the Grand Slam or Masters only charts. Our guidelines probably only cover 20% of any given article... most is left to discussion/consensus on that particular article. But most of our charts are uniform in color and columns.

Notes 1. These choices are for deciding on our columns only for career finals. Full or partial color across rows is for another discussion, as is whether a w/l or No. column goes before or after the results, or the category goes before or after the tournament, or the date uses days/months/years. I just wanted to make these uniform so we can better judge what is best for our readers.

Notes 2. It has been pointed out that having any kind of counting method is trivial overkill since there is always a Key above each chart showing us the wins and losses of a player. And we don't use any counting for individual Grand Slam or Masters charts. However, others would like some sort of counting method for career finals because it's far easier to confirm that the Key's W–L record is correct if the actual events are tallied in some way. Not everyone is Roger Federer with 136 career finals to count, but even 50 career finals can be tough to keep track of. These charts are an attempted compromise to cover the situation.

1) Separate W–L column counting of all finals

2) Separate No. column counting of all finals

3) small/colored, every 5th, W or L number in the result column

4) superscripted/small WL record in the result column