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I will terminate this thread..

It seems, from your previous comments, you believe in the classic religious" story,  you seems more interested in faith'' than real history.

This is a mostly a political story from the 15th century. The classic story is incorrect / fallacious. To believe that there were voices and visions is irrational and unfounded.

( France as we know today, was not in existence, in 1427....it was mainly Paris and the surrounding areas and some regions in the Loire Valley... when Charles VII asked Jehanne to go help with the siege at La-Charité-sur-Loire,  she refused, saying in was NOT in France !

I do not claim anything.... you are using the wrong word, this is only an exchange of ideas !

If you wish to fully understand the story of Franquet d'Arras and why Jehanne la Pucelle was upset with the lost of her main contact at the Hotel de l'Ours, in Paris, please take the time to search this event. You have no idea what I am talking about and you are skipping the topic. Typical ! How about the Ogham Bell coding system used in Orléans ? This is certainly not in the classic story.

I believe these events are an on-going research, bringing every year, more info to better understand this complicated story, as with any fields of Science. Patience is required.

Jehanne la Pucelle, which pucelle means , a servant, was well educated. In 1431, the French word pucelle meant a Servant, if you really know Medieval History. Your error, you are confusing the meaning of the word which was later changed only by the mid-fifteen century to virgin. And, the new meaning was used by Charles VII, for his benefit, in 1456 , at Rehabilitation Trial , and he used  many witnesses who had never met Jehanne la Pucellle to show a new image of Jehanne.

Jehanne was jousting at the court of the Duke of Luxembourg in 1427  and had later a correspondence with Sigismund I.  We know today,  what was asked from Sigismund I, however we do not know Jehanne's answer. ( From the Bishop of Metz ). You do not even know this event.

in the 15th century, Tull, the city, had not been changed yet to Toul. and Jehanne was there speaking various dialects, not speaking French ! She had to learn them all. I often see the same situation    ...Clovis, Charlemagne, Rollo,  Charles the Bald,  they were all speaking  French , which is a nonsense !

Regnault the Chartres was not the enemy in 1429 ! We all know this, however, you missed it ! He became an adversary of Jehanne a year later, in 1430. You had two very different visions for the future of France ! Charles VII and Regnault the Chartres wishing for a treaty with the English/Bourguignons Alliance and on the opposite side, Jehanne wishing to go forward, using force to take Paris. George de La Trémouille even enclosed her in his castle at Sully sur Loire. I wonder what is the explanation with the Classic story?? Charles VII departed for the Loire Valley with the entire army and Jehanne was left alone with a few hundred men and failed at Paris.

When I mentioned her best friend, concerning her knowledge of warfare tactics, it was René d'Anjou. There is even a painting, which was redone, showing both of them, together... I assumed you knew about this. Hauviette de Syna was a friend during her youth.

Michelet was not an amateur writer! However, there were many errors because he made many mistakes in translating some Latin words. His famous story, where Jehanne requested a new costume in prison and the tailor touched her hand and she hit him in the face...he said how a could a simple tailor,  touched the hand of the woman who saved France  ! Total fantasy ! He didn't know the difference between hands and woman breasts in Latin. And, today, most believes in that  famous story which is false.

Régine Pernoud has a French agenda, her books contains errors exactly like numerous past authors ! Perceval de Boulainvilliers, personal advisor to Charles VII, wrote a letter to Visconti, in June 1427, who had died 7 years before, to mentioned  that Jehanne was born on the 06 of January, without mentioning the year. He didn't know the year ! That particular letter has been rejected by most historians. Also, the DNA of Jehanne's hair, from the sealed letter, was inconclusive. There are no images of Jehanne la Pucelle and her hair color is unknown.

Why the 06 of January ? In the Medieval world this was one of the most important religious day of the year...she had to be born on an important date, to add to the religious drama ! A religious event with the father, being a poor peasant when in reality, he was the prévost under Robert de Bandricourt ! Even, renting the fortress de l'Isle during the Bourguinons invasion of the region. A fortress built in the 12 century and owned by the Boulémont family. What a coincidence ! You will not find this in your classic story !

Yolande d'Aragon, René d'Anjou, Robert the Bandricourt, the Franciscans, Regnault de Chartres, George de La Trémouille,  the Dauphin, Perceval de Bulainvilliers, Guillaume de Flavy, Agnès Sorel, Antoinette de Maignelais to name a few, are all the same, on the same team.

In 1540, Jehanne was a nymph, in 1590 Jehanne was created by the Aristocracy in 1614, she came from the sky in 1620, Jehanne story is false in 1640, Naudé said she was not burned because being associated with the French Aristocracy .. no aristocrat was ever burned... 1745, Jehanne was brought in to withdraw Charles's lethargy and dullness, same with Agnès Sorel and ( Marie d'Anjou was pushed aside.) 1799, the story of Jehanne being married to the Sieur des Hermoises ,had already been published...

What is regrettable with numerous videos and comments like yours, it reinforced the idea that GOD or mystification, played a major role in this story...just add drama but most importantly  ...removing all her skills, her intelligence, her resourcefulness ...   She was a woman, from the 15th century which probably believed in her actions, trusting,  knowing her failures, being mentally and physically abused and finally betrayed. Shameful for not admiring her courage and determination, as a person,  being part of a team ; thinking she was in need of an invisible world of aberration and imagination to succeed. Closing this thread now.