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Wiki-Hounding by Eti15TrSf
Back in September, an image was replaced on New York City Subway. Eti15TrSf decided to step in and revert it three months later with accusations of self-promotion, along with "you are not entitled to have your pictures used everywhere". The image replacement in question is subjectively better at first glance. The issue being had here is that instead of going to the talk page to discuss said image, Eti15TrSf persisted in their accusations of bad faith. , can you add your context to this?  Cards   84664   03:30, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
 * How is a single edit supposed to be WP:HOUNDING? Regarding the question of which image is better, that's a question for the talk page.  (They seem equivalent to me.)  There does seem to be a clear 3RR violation by Eti15TrSf, though, so it is edit-warring (and Cards84664 is arguably also edit-warring). power~enwiki ( π,  ν ) 03:37, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
 * This is a content dispute which another editor has now split the baby with and added both images to the article, which may be a good solution, not hounding. However as noted Eti15TrSf has roared past WP:3RR and accordingly is now blocked. I'll note this is not the first time they have been blocked for editwarring. Cards84644, you are at 3RR, do not further revert. - The Bushranger One ping only 04:11, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
 * My angle as requested by Cards84644: As The Bushranger said, this is only one example of the edit warring ways of Eti15TrSf. Let me start from the beginning. Back in August, I replaced the R160 Z train picture on the J/Z page (currently, the old image is displayed). I did so because I found it better than the old one, which was blurry and was also compositionally similar to the R179 J train picture directly above. Mine was a different angle, better quality/resolution, and I felt it spiced the page up a bit by being underground. A few days later, Eti15TrSf reverted my edit saying the new one "wasn't any better." I poked fun and undid his revision. Ever since then, he's been reverting and edit warring many of my picture-related edits, accusing me of "promoting myself" and "treating Wikipedia as my personal album," which I found a bit hypocritical since he seems to edit war with anyone who disagrees with him about what makes a 'good photo' (his personal collection, as I'd describe it). He reverted my pictures for the L and the R143 also, edit warring me there as well (both also currently display the old image). He also accused me of personal attacks (which he promptly withdrew). I attempted to reason, basically saying that I was only doing it because, based on many factors, I (as well as some others) found my pictures to be better than the ones already there, as well as suggesting bringing it to the talk page, but all he'd do was ignore my words, revert, and basically say "it's not good and doesn't show the whole train" (for instance here). Now, not only do I find that an arbitrary and inadequate criterion, I also found (despite him coming to my talk page to "school" me on what makes a good picture, which he also didn't follow up on) he didn't follow it himself, for instance when he replaced the picture on the R46 page (which I hadn't touched, I should note) with my R46 W train image, or when he replaced in this most recent skirmish on the New York City Subway page my R46 W image with one that "didn't show the whole train." Thus, I've come to the conclusion that he for whatever reason has a grudge against me (perhaps because of my joke comment back in August) and wants my pictures in as few places as possible on Wikipedia. Sorry for the delay. GeneralPunger (talk) 04:23 (Edited 1:34), 15 December 2020 (UTC)

We need more evidence for a pattern but Eti15TrSf very clearly targeted GeneralPunger's image here based on an unsupported claim of "self-promotion" (how, exactly?). I don't know that you can call it a content dispute; GeneralPunger's image is clearly better than the one it replaced (in terms of exposure and color). It's not remotely a close call, and no else agreed with the edit. Eti15TrSf themselves knew it was a good image because they added it to R46 (New York City Subway car) in July. Fundamentally this is a user conduct issue because Eti15TrSf is targeting GeneralPunger, and he should probably stop doing that. Mackensen (talk) 12:44, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I've added some links to revisions as evidence in my text above. GeneralPunger (talk) 01:38, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

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