User:Geogre/Talk archive 8

By popular demand, this is archive 8, which is May 8 - July 13, 2005

Imagism
Hi, I've expanded the article somewhat since Peer Review and would be grateful if you had time and inclination to run an eye over it before I go to WP:FAC. Thanks Filiocht | Blarneyman 07:38, May 10, 2005 (UTC)
 * I tried, but db weirdness seemed to say that my changes had been made, but they didn't show up. Odd.  If it looks different to you, then I did some proofing (more later).  If it looks just the same, then we can blame the db.  (No idea what drug the user below is taking or why I've been the beneficiary of his striking wit, but, well, that's why I have the special buttons to push.)  Geogre 13:01, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Your improvements to the lead section are showing up fine, thanks for the work involved. Any more you do will be very welcome. When I rewrite an article bit-by-bit over a long period, I tend to become even more blind than usual to its faults. (Ah yes, that majic button has its uses.) Filiocht | Blarneyman 13:12, May 10, 2005 (UTC)
 * I'm relieved (although I see you disagreed with some). I fully understand.  With long articles, it's inevitable that flow of prose gets disrupted by stitching between sentences.  The sutures always show, and we all get blind to them.  I will get at the body after a while.  I still haven't a clue why "Karatloz" has mistaken me for a male donkey, but he had vandalized The 3, so I gave him a light ban.  The IP who keeps spinning out paranoid fantasies and childish taunts, on the other hand, is upset that he wasn't allowed to write one sentence substubs with impugnity.  All who think they're substandard are not New Yorkers (wonder what he'd think if he found out that some people aren't even Americans!), and he then goes from there to call names -- fully in keeping with the articulateness that generated those articles.  However, I'm not one to ban for personal attacks, though some do.  If he vandalizes, I'll knock him out for a good while, but the rest is just sticks and stones weakly thrown. Geogre 23:51, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
 * The DB was really playing up yesterday. I did not disagree with any of your edits; quite the opposite. My edits were actually pre yours. I see the history reflects this today. I've been much more active as an admin this week and expect it won't be long before my own talk page becomes the target of some high-level wit, too. Filiocht | Blarneyman 07:33, May 11, 2005 (UTC)

Ravings
You're a jackass. Karatloz 11:51, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Enjoy your Wikipedia vacation. Geogre 13:01, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

Hey, it's me Karatloz. That wasn't me that called you a jackass, it was my stupid friend. Thanks for noting that my contributions were worthwhile. Anyway, I was looking at my past contributions and it appears my account has been "hijacked" more than once. I'm not going to tell anyone my new password! Karatloz 16:38, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

Solange
Maybe not, since the novel doesn't have an article, and in fact isn't even mentioned in Willy Kyrklund? Or maybe not at the top (though that is where I've seen a few of these dabs, I'm pretty sure)? In my world, this is a well-known novel, I was just listening to a good reading of it on the radio. Anyway, I'm unsure of the principle, please rv ad libitum. --Stalker | talk 16:38, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

Aphra Behn
Goodness... you want to take a look at what's happening there? --Bishonen | talk 20:04, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
 * You mean the new editor who is putting naivette back in, after the Gildon-slurry? It's trash.  I just warn folks that their words aren't going to stay for long.  My problem is that I don't want to put my toe in the river unless I'm going to take a bath.  I can get her to 1671 now, but not beyond, and, as much as I'd prefer to have a nothing than an incorrect something, what I don't have the energy for is an edit war that would erupt after I pasted the  tag on it and stripped it to the verifiable essentials.  The list of plays after that is also slush, to me, but I won't fight that. Geogre 21:39, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Just adding my voice to the countless thousands who are begging you to take Aphra Behn in hand - especially after your astoundingly excellent work on Oroonoko. I've just hacked out some more of the most excruciating bits but that didn't leave a lot behind and it'll probably just get reverted again. I haven't got the resources to do it myself and let's face it, you (and Bish) are the dons of the baroque. Apologies if you think the list of plays is slush, I got it from my copy of the Rover. Well, I felt guilty about doing nothing! --Mr impossible 17:57, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Oh, shoot, I don't think it's wrong. My fear was the authors were going the way of bands.  I just had to step into a bit where one person was forever splitting a band article while others were trying to discuss all the albums in one place (all short).  I was concerned that the list was going to be instead of a discussion.  A bibliography of her works is vital.  Like I said, I was just worried that some folks (and never you, as you do great work) were going to produce the list and think the duty to Behn done.  I will absolutely get back on Behn, though.  You're right:  I've waited too long, and right now I'm just looking like a critic on the talk page.  It's time to make it work or stop making comments.  I just stalled on the biography in favor of reading a bunch of other things (not for lack of interest, but just because another shiny bauble came into view, and a started pawing at it), and I need to finish it so that I can get Behn past The City Heiress.Geogre 18:48, 14 May 2005 (UTC)

Imagism
Just to let you know that this is now on WP:FAC. Thanks for your Peer review input. Filiocht | Blarneyman 07:23, May 17, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for your FAC vote, improvements to the article, and kind comments. Filiocht | Blarneyman 08:03, May 19, 2005 (UTC)

Jamiroquoi is a War Crime
The chief evil of colonialism is that it goads a subjugated population into purchasing its own goods back from its subjugators, at a marked up price. You grow the coffee beans, they roast them, and you buy coffee from them and can't have any to drink otherwise. The US made Sly and the Family Stone and Motown. It should not be asked to buy them back in the form of fey hat-without-a-head Britpop, and, if any of its citizens do, the subjugation is only ignorance and the force of historical blindness. Grrrr. Geogre 01:02, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

St Eric
Thanks for notifying me of this. I will have a look at it ASAP.--Wiglaf 14:09, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Eric the saint is Eric IX. It was not Swedish custom during the middle ages to give the kings numbers. When they did introduce numbers, they started with the mythological kings, so everything is in order.--Wiglaf 14:15, 18 May 2005 (UTC)


 * Sorry for barging in... The anachronistic numbering is based on a partly historical, partly pseudohistorical work by the 16th century deposed Catholic archbishop Johannes Magnus with which I am not really acquainted (Wiglaf may possibly know more). The numbering wasn't used in the Middle Ages and it is never actually used by modern Swedish historians either. Personally I think it should better be avoided altogether. Uppland 18:24, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

Humanifesto
FWIW, I don't think you don't come off as hostile in VfD. The problem as I see it, is that some people interpret tone where none exists. In any case, I find your VfD comments helpful and informative. --Viriditas | Talk 00:20, 21 May 2005 (UTC)

Help me please
Geogre, I need your help. Vandals have been vandalizing my userpage and I find myself unable to revert it for some reason. They vandalized your userpage as well, which is reverted now. They have also vandalized Votes for deletion/Grandma Butter Chicken. I need someone to block the three IPs concerned. They are listed on WP:VIP. Sjakkalle 11:41, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

That was some ugly juvenile vandalism. Kids these days... Zocky 11:52, 23 May 2005 (UTC)


 * Yeah, and for their trouble they all three got blocked. (sigh) It's not that a sonnet is that hard to write. Geogre 11:58, 23 May 2005 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your help Geogre. I am looking forward to clashing with you on VfD debates in a friendly manner in the future :-). Sjakkalle 12:01, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

Sam Slocum
I have played Ten Thousand Dollar Pyramid to find out more about Sam Slocum. I think I have found some google hits about the guy, but under the name Samuel Slocum, I have made some changes to the article. Can you take another look at it? Sjakkalle 07:04, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Great stuff. Thanks for the work.  I'm always pleased to get to change my vote. Geogre 11:11, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the kind words and the response! Sjakkalle 06:07, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

Edgar Allan Poe
Hi! I noticed you have previously been involved in editing this article, and it is currently being worked on to try to raise it to FA standard. If you are interested in helping improve this article once more, see here. Harro5 00:15, May 26, 2005 (UTC)
 * Replied on your talk page, under the #FAC section. Basically, there are some bits of information that I think are needed, and I'm in a position where I cannot be as much help as I'd like.  I can copy edit any time you'd care for it, but I would need some of my missing books under my hand to supply the information I'd need to bring forth some of the points on Poe's non-fiction and poetry. Geogre 04:22, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

Punkas
I've completely redone the Punkas article. I hope you have the time to check it. It may not be as much a candidate for deletion as it previously was. Tx.--McDogm 20:29, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

Dannyisme's upended wheelbarrow
Nice start! Oh, very well, I'll do a plain vanilla short drama section from Hume's Development of English Drama if you like, I don't really have the heart to stand by and look at your foot sticking out from Danny's pile of bricks. 1660—89, you say? OK, got it. I appreciate that some eggs need to be broken to make this omelette. 1660—89 takes out the flowering of the drama in the 1690s, but I'll mention that it's out, lest readers be nonplussed at not finding Congreve. Bishonen | talk 07:52, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

Re 1660—1700
Hey, there's no consensus about what years "The Restoration" covers as a literary period (or as anything else). During the FAC discussion of Restoration comedy, I researched how, specifically, people defined the period in the phrase "Restoration comedy", and easily came up with this lot (quoting myself some): Restoration comedies are comedies produced in 1660—1668, 1660—1682, 1660—1685, 1660—1688, 1660—1700, 1660—1702, 1660—1710, 1660—1732, or 1660—1760! None of the suggestions are made by "fringe" scholars. IOW, there's no consensus, pick what you like, state your definition, and go with it. (The list doesn't even contain your 1660—89, but of course 1660—88 is merely synonymous with it, for obvious reasons.) As you know, I picked 1660—1700 for the comedy article, reasoning that it would be the most encyclopedic and least idiosyncratic option, but the others all have merit, too. Please note also that if you're not talking about Restoration comedy specifically, but more generally about "the Restoration period", then 1660—1685, the reign of Charles II, is probably the encyclopedic winner. The dab page Restoration thinks it is. Bishonen | talk 16:28, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

Eyrbyggja saga
Hi Geogre, I have made a smallish article on the Eyrbyggja saga. It is a beginning. If you're interested in hauntings in norse sagas, you could read this article: Hervor. Cheers,--Wiglaf 20:15, 30 May 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for voting
Before the voting on European English ended a replacement was written, which is being subjected to a new round of voting. See Votes for deletion/European English. 66.167.137.130 09:32, 31 May 2005 (UTC)

Secretlondon
Guess who's back? Bishonen | talk 21:56, 31 May 2005 (UTC)

Votes for deletion/Polydeism
I've cleaned up the article, and think it should be kept (at least until I can do some more research on it). It was original research (and probably vanity) as originally written, but it's a real term that has been used by some philosophers/theologians. -- BD2412 talk 13:45, 2005 Jun 1 (UTC)

VFD
Just letting you know about Votes for deletion/HYP (universities) 2. If you have an opinion, please vote. I am notifying people who have been active on either side of the debate. &mdash;Lowellian (talk) 23:49, Jun 4, 2005 (UTC)

WP:RFA
Geogre, if you're around, you might like to form an opinion about Pjacobi's request for adminship. His attitude is pretty unusual—IMO, unusually good—but it hasn't attracted a lot of attention. Bishonen | talk 14:40, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Votes for deletion/College admissions and ranking shorthands in the United States
Please re-visit the discussion. Uncle G 04:44, 2005 Jun 6 (UTC)

Hi
Hi Geogre, I haven't spoken to you for a while. Hope all is well. Thanks for editing the user page I made, but unfortunately Bishonen has expressed a desire not to be added to the list. If she has changed her mind then fine, but I've had to remove her for now. Don't forget you can add yourself if there is anything you have done which is fab. I'm sure there must be. You can suggest a new category if necessary! I'm sure I haven't covered enough areas. Best wishes -- Silversmith Hewwo 11:44, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Votes for deletion/ANZACS Film
I answered your question about pre-viz. RickK 23:26, Jun 7, 2005 (UTC)

First name disambiguations
Given what you said at Votes for deletion/Pyotr, you might want to visit Votes for deletion/Alessandra and Wikipedia_talk:Disambiguation. Uncle G 02:01, 2005 Jun 8 (UTC)

Thanks for your support
Thank you for voting on my RFA. Have some pie! I was pleasantly surprised by the sheer number of supporters (including several people that usually disagree with my opinion). I shall do my best with the proverbial mop. Yours, Radiant_ &gt;|&lt; 08:18, Jun 8, 2005 (UTC)

Cricket articles
Hey Geogre, I need some advice here, though I'm not really sure why I'm going to you. Anyway have you noticed the Category:2005 English cricket season matches articles that have appeared? If wikipedia is going to summarize every sporting event ever played I think it needs some discussion first, to say the least. As far as I can tell there really hasn't been any. What do you think should be done? -R. fiend 18:06, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * We agree then. So do we address this in some forum? If so where? I knew the TV episode articles would deteriorate into this sooner or later. This really needs discussion but I'm not sure exactly where. I'd rather keep it away from VfD for now. Any ideas? -R. fiend 18:30, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

J.D. Drew
Your words in the edit description: "Added his college, because he was my student." Huh? I corrected your mistakes. You said he went to UGA (wrong) and was your student. Well, I don't know if he was your student. According to your profile, you lived in Athens, GA., but he went to Lowndes County High School in Hahira, GA and you never said you lived in Tallahassee, FL where Drew went to college at Florida State, so where were you his teacher? Furthermore, Drew never won a college world series with Florida State. I'd expect more from "an administrator".
 * Ooooh, guess that shows me! Actually, UGA did win a college world series.  Three baseball players on that team were my students as freshmen, when I was teaching at UGA.  I thought JD Drew was one of them, and it is unwise to expect jockism in admins.  I've had hundreds of freshmen, and at the time I didn't pay that much attention to which teams they were on, except that these guys were smart enough and had a sense of humor.  It was later that I found out that two of the three had gone on to the major leagues.  Geogre 22:01, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * I apologize for my inaccuracy, I edited my previous statement, to read "Drew never won a CWS", not "UGA never won a CWS".

Geogre
So here I am, composing a masterpiece of vandalism in sonnet form, when it occurs to me that I don't know the correct pronounciation of "Geogre". Is it ( jor - jre ), ( jor - gre ), ( gai - gre ), or what? ;-) func (talk) 20:54, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Func, none of the above, the basis of the name is the word ogre. Imagine Geogre entering the room, and greet him with a cheerful "Gee! Ogre!" And there you have it! Bishonen | talk 23:17, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Yep. Bishonen's right. The name came from my being considered something of a 500 ton weight dropping on opponents during argument in my youth (I've mellowed), and it was ge-ogre. Geogre 03:40, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

English literature
So, I added a summary of your Restoration literature to English literature, if you'd care to check it out. And I think you may not have gone over my invisible comments in Restoration literature. If you look at a version before I whirled the genres round and round the daisies, you'll find 'em easy. Bishonen | talk 23:17, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Cool. Your choices are very interesting, too. :-)  What shocks me, and I mean shocks me is that Augustan literature is wide open.  How can this be?  If you think (and I do) that I put in some sweat work on Restoration literature, that's nothing compared to what I'd do with Augustan.  Them's my peeps.  As for the invisible comments, I really don't quite know what you mean, but I'll play with various diffs and see if I can figure it out. Geogre 03:39, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

BTW, I think I've seen and addressed the invisible ink comments, if I understood properly. Geogre 12:31, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * My summary in English literature is a quick crude job, relying basically on keeping some of your blocks and deleting others. A proper summary would delicately condense each block, but check out what was there before, and I think you'll grasp why I wanted to put in even a crude one while awaiting... oh...[whistling] somebody [wandering off, shouting over shoulder] while waiting for you to put in a proper one [running away]! -Bishonen | talk 13:39, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

It is a proper one, kiddo. You did a great job with it. I'm not sure what anyone would expect of an English literature article except one about 500kb long. Like I said, though, you just wait until I summon the energy and demons and put them in harness to start on Augustan literature. There are butts to be kicked, and I'm lacing up my boots. Geogre 14:25, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Kiddo? [Deploying ear trumpet, adjusting pincenéz, shaking stick at brazen juvenile.] What you say? Bishonen | talk 16:31, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I looked at your recent work, and I realized late that you might want the Augustan literature. If you do, I'll gladly step back from such a major plunge. It's a big, big, big task. Is there an element of it you'd consider doing? The drama isn't all that illustrious, and the poetry is enormous, and anyone doing "the novel" needs an article by itself at the least. Geogre 17:04, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * [Running away at a surprising clip for my age.] Nooooooooooo! No Augustan! Not even if there wasn't a Geogre in the house! Bishonen | talk 17:21, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Ahhh, come on! It'll be fun. Besides, just imagine what I'd say about Augustan theater. (Hint: I hates it.) Think what I'd say about all the dissenter prose authors. (Hint: I hates 'em too.) Think of all the unfair slagging off on Richardson I'll do. I can't be trusted with the responsibility, I tell you. Geogre 17:46, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Please block
User:Villy on Vheels. But this one seems to be an amateur, moving things by copy/paste. Sjakkalle (Check!)  13:03, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

User:Villy on Vheels
Hi Geogre, I just noticed that you blocked the above user right before I blocked him indefinitely as a troll account/impersonation attempt. After I saw your temporary block, I thought that my indefinite block may indeed have been to much in that case. I'd be willing to trust your judgment, unblock him and apply a temporary block, but I'm not really sure we need to assume good faith with a username like that... Ferkelparade &pi; 13:12, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Heck no, man! Infinity and beyond is fine with me.  I was just in a hurry to get out the door when I got a flag on him, so I went with the default 24 hr.  My theory was that this account wouldn't really be used for more than 10 minutes or so and that the dingus would immediately switch over to create a new one, so any block would prompt a new move.  Infinite ban does absolutely no harm, though.  (I was thinking that it wasn't the real WoW but rather copy-cat, as he was doing page moves by c&p instead of the way WoW did them.)  Absolutely, though, no disagreement from me.  Let his name never be spoken among the just (anathema).  Geogre 14:22, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

reducing vfd load
Hi Geogre,

Meelar has brought to my attention that you might like a proposal of mine at User talk:MarSch/deleteproposal. Please take a look. Thanks --MarSch 15:09, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Slawi VfD debate
Sorry, but I was hoping you could explain this, if speedy keep is an invalid vote? I'm not arguing or anything, but doesn't this show that speedy keep is a valid vote, since the article was speedily kept? Scimitar 19:22, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for your swift reply, and I understand your argument. I concur with what you're saying, mostly because after thinking about it I think that the benefits of keeping the article quickly are outweighed by the possible connotations of the vote. I won't be using this in future, except on excessively moronic nominations (say, United States of America). As for Kappa, I think what he's doing is simply arguing forcefully from his ultra-inclusionist perspective, and not so much an attack on the nominator. I'm pretty sure I'm not an inclusionist, and I disagree with him occasionally, but AFAIK he's always been civil. One of the unfortunate results of the schools debate was a heightening of rhetoric, which led to an absurdly low bar for school notability, since no consensus could be reached. Anyway, thanks for your perspective, and best wishes. Scimitar 19:37, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Your User page
I really am glad you decided to keep your User page. RickK 05:29, Jun 14, 2005 (UTC)

Beautiful boy
You gonna upload Image:Southampton.gif, already? Being as I am both a beautiful boy and a straight female, I take several kinds of interest. Is he as beautiful as the flea? Note, btw, that User:Gdr is writing diligently to you about the pictures on my page. Bishonen | talk 17:50, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the bishie. He looks very grown-up, though! About five years older than the average IRC age. That's a biseinen in my book. Bishonen | talk 21:15, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Well, true, but he was five years younger when Shakespeare wrote those pretty poems to him, I think. "Nature fell adoting" indeed. Certainly an androgyne. The painting has it all, though: armor in the back and amour in the front. Geogre 21:18, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Thank for the pics!
Very much, and the messages! But I will not be tempted into staying up for another minute, I will keep them as a reason for getting briskly out of bed in the morning instead. This is just to share a trick: you can actually link to an image, without displaying the image itself on the page. Give the complete code as if to display it, but add a colon at the head. (Same as with categories.) For an example, lookee the editing code for my link to the Southampton.gif above. Chubby Ned, btw, is a lot bishier than Southampton! And so good night! Bishonen | talk 02:14, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Vfd on Jason Court
Hi again! I noticed that you voted delete on Jason Court here:. I rewrote the article, and am wondering if you want to reconsider your vote? Best wishes, regardless. Scimitar 16:04, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Honestly, I think he's probably pretty washed up, with his best days well behind him. Still, in my books he's barely notable enough, since it's conceivable that game fans will want to look him up. Then again, that's just my opinion. --Scimitar 16:44, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

18th-century toilet paper holder
Chortle chortle chortle chortle chortle chortle chortle chortle... and so on! Bishonen | talk 13:18, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Geogre's Law
Hey Geogre, I saw you mention this in a VfD vote, and I think I've seen it elsewhere too. What exactly is it? -R. fiend 00:10, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)

PRiis
Hey, some cool news for a change: did you see that Pete is back? :-) He's got Elias Ashmole up for peer review [NUDGE]. You know, the Ashmolean? Bishonen | talk 08:13, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Email
I've spammed your mailbox with some interesting comparative material. Thanks for your work on Restoration literature. Cheers, &mdash; mark &#9998; 14:07, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)

A Discourse on the Original and Progress of Satire (1692)
Geogre, did I hear you say you wanted this one in the Ref section? Gutenberg has a nice text of it, together with the "Discourse on Epic Poetry" (1697). You want me to put it in?


 * Dryden, John (originally published in 1692). "A Discourse on the Original and Progress of Satire", from Project Gutenberg. Prepared from the 1888 Cassell & Company edition.

Bishonen | talk 15:56, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * Trouble is they have about five traditional titles each, the buggers, so I'm not sure which one that is. The "Original and Progress" is apparently the preface to Juvenal. I've added that fact. Bishonen | talk 16:33, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Just realized you wanted the discourse on the epic as well, putting it in. Bishonen | talk 23:27, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)

thanks for thanks
You don't need to thank me for recognizing how good the Restoration literature article is (but thanks back anyway). I had been working on getting Emily Dickinson up to FAC snuff, but fell asleep on it for a few weeks somehow; perhaps after I get back in gear on that I will add a bit to fill out the nineteenth and twentieth centuries of the English literature article/series. (I am not sure how we'll want to handle the non-UK-and-Ireland literatures there, but it seems like the main article ought to include everything, at least in survey, and there's a big American literature-shaped hole in it at the moment.) And yes, I know what you mean; it's sometimes easier to write about things you don't know quite so well as your own specialty. Thanks for the invitation to contribute -- though I can't match what you put in (in time or in quality), I will pitch in as I can. -- Rbellin|Talk 21:00, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Gmail for Filiocht
Hi Geogre: I saw your offer on Fil's talk page and implemented it myself since I already have his email address. It will make a nice surprise for him when he arrives at work.&mdash;Theo (Talk) 06:46, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Thenks to you both. I'm now filiocht at gmail dot com!. Filiocht | Blarneyman 07:48, Jun 22, 2005 (UTC)
 * By the way, well done on your new FA. Filiocht | Blarneyman 07:54, Jun 22, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks. If you want to see why I ought not be trusted with survey articles on things I know something about, though, see Augustan literature. That sombitch is something like 50K already, and I haven't even gotten to the poetry or drama. This is also sort of why I wasn't much help on Modern Poetry: I can't go small on things like that, no matter how hard I try. All the developments are important. Geogre 17:02, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Donut
No, I have gone to bed, but I see fresh footprints of yours, so I have to say this: there's a scrumptious donut waiting for you on my Talk, just above reply to anon. :-) Bishonen | talk 01:49, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * DANG! It is already 53k, and I haven't even gotten to the satire! Holy smokes and cigarettes!  That's insane, but every word is precious.  Every article is necessary.  It can't be shorter!!! I'm going to go have a good cry now. Geogre 02:29, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Votes for deletion/Frances Ransome
In this discussion you said
 * I just think that "vanity" shouldn't be a criterion. We'd need to attack the obvious vanity article by another criterion than just its appearance of being about the author.

I've come up with a criterion that does exactly that and (according to early results &mdash; The study that I am running is not yet complete. I want to run it for a few more days yet.) appears to have some success. User:Uncle G/Proposal to expand WP:CSD/Unsourced biographies. The study is on the talk page. Uncle G 18:56, 2005 Jun 23 (UTC)

The 2005 Nobel Prize For 18th-Century Literature
For extraordinary achievements in the field of 18th-century literature and culture, User:Bishonen has awarded you The 2005 Nobel Prize For 18th-Century Literature on behalf of the Wikipedia Nobel Committee. Please find it on your userpage! Bishonen | talk 00:07, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I would like to deliver my Nobel address now, but I can't.  Instead, I'll just say that I have most of the $100,000 already spent, and, of course, your cut of the prize money for bribing the Swedish Wiki Academy is on the way. Geogre 11:43, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Invitation to distraction
Hi, Geogre, I hope this isn't inappropriate--but if you need a break from WP, you might want to take a look at the "Guessing Winstanley's Frontispiece" game over here. I thought you might get a kick out of it. I haven't started rolling out the big guns yet! I'm going to ask Bishonen too. PRiis 04:16, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * "inappropriate" is hardly a word Geogre knows the meaning of - Oh PENIS! Giano | talk 30 June 2005 13:03 (UTC)
 * That's because everything is appropriate, or else it would not have been invented. The PENIS was invented, for example, because women needed something to pretend to have never heard of, and men needed distraction from their otherwise constant building of bridges and wars to enable them to get women and to give the getting of women a purpose.  WHATEVER IS IS RIGHT, as my buddy the Pope said, even if it's not right now. Geogre 30 June 2005 13:52 (UTC)

Are you guys playing the PENIS game or what? &mdash; mark &#9998;
 * There is no need to boast! We can all write that big if we want to Giano | talk 30 June 2005 16:13 (UTC)


 * Well, I don't know about you, but I regard the PENIS as no joke at all, although it may still be fun to play. Geogre 30 June 2005 16:34 (UTC)
 * PENIS Never heard of the Italian stallion? Giano | talk 30 June 2005 18:49 (UTC)


 * Oh, you mean the PENIS that made Adrian say "Yo?" Geogre 30 June 2005 18:58 (UTC)


 * PEN IS but the point is to say the word publicly in order to win! so I'm ahead. (quite a nice little article by the way, a little short though! Giano | talk 5 July 2005 20:48 (UTC)


 * Forget it, Giano. As you yourself said, I am A Wonderful TOOL .  Besides, I've said "PENIS" just now. Geogre 6 July 2005 02:37 (UTC)

African American literarure
You raised some good issues about African-American literature and I've tried to address them. Do my changes work for you? Also, what do you think about my suggestion of putting some of the extra info about Toomer in the Harlem Renaissance article? My complete comments are at Featured article candidates/African-American literature. I really want to get this article to featured article status, so any more help you can give is appreciated.--Alabamaboy 30 June 2005 11:02 (UTC)

Yolp
For any travellers passing by, Augustan literature is now finished. It is 90 kb, so I didn't get to the predicted 100 kb, but 90 kb is plenty long. Plans for it? Well, I'm going to let my brain sleep for a while. When it wakes up, I'll take the current sections and make them dedicated articles (e.g. Augustan prose and Augustan poetry and Augustan Drama). After that, I'll chop down the sections viciously, with hands atremble and eyes leaking tears, to "essentials" and a very nasty uber-over-view. Then maybe FAC, maybe not. Geogre 1 July 2005 16:08 (UTC)
 * It was done. It is undone! Now clocking in at 51 kb! Before you look, here is your mantra for the day: "Remember you have rollback remember you have rollback remember you have rollback remember you have rollback remember you have rollback ". If you experience a choking sensation, breathe into a paper bag. Bishonen | talk 1 July 2005 16:22 (UTC)

Article Size Question
Since you had such excellent comments on African-American literature, I wanted to ask you about article size. After some of my recent edits to the article, a warning popped up saying the article was now possibly too long. The standard referred to was 32kb. While African-American literature is just below this, I don't understand why Wikipedia has this warning when so many articles go way beyond the lenght restriction (including most of the recent Featured Articles). Can you provide any insight? Also, is it worth worrying about this size limit?--Alabamaboy 1 July 2005 16:50 (UTC)

Very Non-Urgent Message
I'm sorry if my changes upset you, but what threats are you talking about? I never threatened you at any point. If you're thinking of "Everyone stay at least 10 feet away", that is a line in the poem "No Comment", not a message directed at anyone. BTW, the aforesaid postings were not anonymous; I signed them with my username. But I apologize for the inconvenience. Thanks for giving me my username (well, sort of). Have you figured out what the numbers mean? That one is a bad number is a matter of personal opinion that many people would disagree with me on, but I know that you would agree. User:Yeltensic42.618 3 July 2005 1:09 (All times and music are Eastern)