User:Gerry D/archive5

DCNR pages
Hi Dinch, Looks like I am the first post-archive to leave a message here. I do think they are adding more info to some of the DCNR park pages - checking things as we update articles it seems as if a lot of parks now have the area in the intro and not hidden deep in the text like before (if at all), so I think they are updating them somewhat (and relatively slowly). Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 23:07, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Game notes
Hey, saw your recent edit to 2007 Penn State Nittany Lions football team that added the game notes section. I'm not sure if you saw, but that page already had code for game notes on it, albeit without the seealso links. The game notes were just commented out in the source with instructions to uncomment as each game took place. Dunno how you want to handle it, but I think I like the original author's idea to not include the entire season worth of game notes until they've all taken place. -- Billma 23:28, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks!
Hi Dinch, thanks for the congrats on Plunketts Creek, for asking me to write it in the first place, and for finding the missing "s" in the article. I found a bit more info on it and will add some more over the next few days, plus I have a few more possible sources of info to track down. I think the White Clay Creek photo is free as it is US Government (National Park Service). I could not find any more info on the second pic and I think the default assumption is that it needs a free source (government, older than a ceratin age) or an explicit free license, or else it is not free to use. I could not get the third pic to show up at all on Flickr. I may try to use Google Image to look for more, Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 01:57, 22 August 2007 (UTC) I think Little Pine SP would be the best possibility for a Lycoming County SP GA. Still thinking of others. Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 03:20, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I never thought any image of Benjy Rush would be found - woohoo! Great find. Also like the Norristown Farm Park pic. I uploaded the National Park Service image of White Clay Creek to Commons (as Image:Trout fishing on White Clay Creek.jpg) and will add it to the parks next (PA and DE). Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 01:29, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Glad you like the LL pic - I have a few others to upload, but am trying to decide which game closeup is best (the one with the most player action has a spectator kid walking into the picture in the foreground that I can't edit or crop out). I found a picture of Twelve Mile Island on Flickr, but it is not free (or that good - a bridge post is in the middle of it). I also found some USACE maps of that and Fourteen Mile Island, Allegheny River, which together make up Allegheny Islands State Park, so I have to update that article. Also found out some more on Plunketts Creek looking through old newspaper microfilms, so more to work on there. Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 03:14, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I uploaded the rest of my LL pix on Commons - see Image:Little League World Series Game 2.jpg and others in that category. Also see William W. Powers State Recreation Area, a recent GA. I think you could get some PA parksup to that standard. I did not add the White Clay Creek pic to the DE park article as it already has a picture of the DE park. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ruhrfisch (talk • contribs) 18:15, August 25, 2007 (UTC)
 * I uploaded a cropped version without the kid at Image:Little League World Series Game 2 crop.JPG. Do you think it would be better with the sides cropped more? I left the umpires in, but I suppose they could be cropped out too. As for State Parks, let me think about it. Ricketts Glen seems possible. Maybe Mont Alto with the whole first State Forest Park? I just found a fascinating article about acid rain and snow and Linn Run. I think one with lots of details on both nature and history would be best. Some parks are in the PA Audubon guide too. Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 03:58, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Merges
Hi Dinch, I thought about it some more and am now fine with merging both island articles into Allegheny Islands State Park. I updated the merge comment on the park talk page to relect my change of mind too. I think the same editor started both island articles, so maybe we should leave a note on his/her talk page and wait a few days, then merge them and leave as redirects. Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 15:45, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I left a message on the talk page of the original creator of the articles, Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 15:53, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Boyd Big Tree
You can find it on the PennDOT Dauphin County map (which is linked on the park's article page). I could not find it in GNIS either - I will sometimes enter just the first part of the name, but couldn't find it under Boyd or Big Tree or Boyd Big Tree. Some other parks do not have GNIS entries either - Bucktail does not, nor does Allegheny Islands. I have had good results contacting the USGS, so I will let them know about these and would be glad to pass along any others we find. Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 03:17, 27 August 2007 (UTC) I just looked at the PennDOT map and the Google Earth photos and the dot looks like it is in the park. The dot has an elevation of about 920 feet (according to Google Earth). If I contact them tomorrow, my guess is that USGS GNIS will have coordinates and an elevation in their database in a few days. Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 03:29, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Worlds End
Hi Dinch, I would expand the lead paragraphs a little, so they reflect the contents of the article. The idea (as I understand it) is to include in the lead everything that is mentioned in a header or subheader. Also everything in the lead should also be in the text of the article. I would try to convert all the references into inline citations. I also have some ideas for extra refs, but will look the article over carefully and then write more here. Looks good so far, Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 00:00, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Here are some more ideas. The basic idea is to add more info in some cases and more refs. I will add more as the night goes one, but here's three more refs for now:

Note: The guide refers to Wyoming State Forest, which has been reorganized as Loyalsock State Forest.
 * I would add in the information from the Audubon Guide about the birds etc in the park and surrounding state forest. Here's the link in cite web format:


 * Possible Loyalsock Trail refs to add: The Alpine Club of Williamsport and Loyalsock Trail Official Website and Pennsylvania DCNR's Loyalsock Trail Page


 * Another CCC ref from the CCC Archives.


 * From Gertler's Keystone Canoeing (use as much of the quote or paraphrase as you see it): Loyalsock Creek's "...exciting whitewater, above Forksville, has long been a favorite of paddlers who are quick and tolerant enough to endure its fickle water levels and weather. Likewise, an annual early Spring slalom race held at Worlds End State Park has attracted similarly hardy constestants since the 1960's." (page 295) and "...long, steepening, and complex boulder patch and ledgy rapids demand your attention. In a classic pattern, the best whitewater is usually on bends away from the road. A boater's chute through the middle of the swimming area dam at Worlds End State Park climaxes this run." The whitewater gradient is 41, the class of Whitewater is 2 to 3+, 4.


 * Fishing ref, possible sentence: Loyalsock Creek within the park has been designated as approved trout waters by the Pennsylvania Fish and Boat Commission. This means the waters will be stocked with trout and may be fished during trout season.

Hope this helps, Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 01:05, 29 August 2007 (UTC) (unindent) I rewrote the lead paragraphs, taking the inline cites out (moved them into the text). I also did some rearranging of the text and fixed a ref ("wesphistory" was for CCC history, now they are two separate refs - is this OK?). I will not look at it for a day or two, then take a fresh look (unless there are things you want me to look at). Oh, plus I was going to look for more images from my pix. Have a good one, Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 03:04, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Precipitation and Acid Rain ref, possible sentences: The mean annual precipitation for Loyalsock Creek is 42 to 48 inches (1067 to 1219 mm). Pennsylvania receives the most acid rain of any state in the United States. Because Loyalsock Creek is in a sandstone, shale, conglomerates, coal, and limestone mountain region, it has a relatively low capacity to neutralize added acid. This makes it especially vulnerable to increased acidification from acid rain, which poses a threat to the long term health of the plants and animals in the creek.
 * I have one more surprise - something I found in a newspaper looking for Plunketts Creek info, but will add that to the article directly. Also did some copyedits on it - think it is about ready to go to GAC. Good luck, Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 03:42, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks so much for listing me as a co-nominator - I think it should be your baby, but am glad to help. Looks like everything on the nom is fine. I might try tweaking the lead paragraphs (the name is not mentioned). Also look at the Audubon Guide and see if any birds and animals listed there need to be added to the article. My guess is it will take a week, they might also have comments / things that need to be addressed. Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 02:07, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I will work on the lead later today - quite busy now, will also double check my notes on the other typo below (I think it is OK to correct it though). Ruhrfisch  &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 16:11, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorry, didn't get to it today or tonight, will work on it tomorrow (need a bigger block of time to think that I had all day). Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 03:28, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
 * WOOOHOOOO!!!!! Great news and well deserved - now there's only 119 to go ;-) Ruhrfisch  <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 11:40, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
 * You are very welcome - he is supposed to be wearng a Good Article medal, not a target (though he is of course safe in all state parks from target practice and hunting). Take care, Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 19:36, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Worlds End State Park typos
The two I have found are mispronounciation and constestants. The first might be in the actual quote since it's a common (mis)spelling, but I suspect the second is a real typo. However, I can't get at the refs to verify that. Hope you have better luck. (Copied to your talk page.) Michael Devore 04:05, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Wikimania in Atlanta!
Mike H. I did "That's hot" first! 22:37, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Map
Thanks - it was a lot of work. I used the DCNR map at the maximum size it would fit into my screen (36.1%), then did Print Screen and pasted it into my trusty Paint program. Then I erased everything that wasn't state forest (or Worlds End SP) and added the county borders in as thick red lines. Then I shrank it by trial and error (18%) until the red lines lined up with the county borders on the PA locator map. Then I pasted in the good county lines over the red lines. Then I went in and colored the SF land red by hand. Erasing carefully and coloring red took the most time. I think it may take me a while to do all 20, although I learned some tricks that will speed things up next time. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 02:30, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I did it and I am still not 100% sure how ;-). I tried coloring the one tract a solid color before shrinking, but left the others the original colors then made them red after shrinking. I think in the future it is easier to color before shrinking. I also will erase near the county's borders, then put the red lines in (as I had to erase around the red lines which took more effort). I am glad you like it - had I done all that work and it did not turn out, that would have been bad. For no particlular reason I will now quote: Licensed to kill gophers by the government of the United Nations (but not in Pennsylvania state parks)! Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 03:24, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Glad you like the newest map. I am working on some more, but it will take some time. Found out that "Kittanning State Forest" is now Clear Creek State Forest - no confusion with Clear Creek State Park there. Doing those changes was my work for the evening. Take care, Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 03:23, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Cape Henlopen State Park and PA state forests
How about DYK ...that Cape Henlopen State Park (pictured) in Delaware has been public land since William Penn designated it as such in 1682, yet only became a state park in 1964? I tried to fit the WWII fort in too, but it just didn't fit somehow. Some nice pictures there too - I would use Image:Herringpoint.JPG in the DYK nom. I agree that Clear Creek as a new name makes no sense given WIlliam Penn as a new name. Also wish they would convert State Game Lands into state forest tracts there. Oh well. Take care, Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 01:18, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Good luck - maybe we should form some State Parks Wikiproject? Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 02:09, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

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 * Congrats! Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 13:36, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I did a Print Screen if you did not see it on the main page - let me know and I can email it to you. Congrats again, Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 20:09, 11 September 2007 (UTC) PS Did you see I found a pic of Erie Bluffs SP? Woo Hoo!
 * Sounds fine to me - my sole contribution is to add two commas: DYK...that Fort Delaware State Park, once a Civil War POW camp, is now home to one of the largest heronries north of Florida? The state of Delaware thanks you ;-) Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 01:10, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I added commas and the acre to km2 template to Fort Henlopen. I missed the convert question before - I think it is being phased out in favor of individual templates like mi to km, ft to m, etc. Let me know and I will add commas (and templates if you want examples) to Fort Delaware. Here are some spare commas for your use: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, I have more if you need them ;-) Ruhrfisch '''[[User talk:Ruhrfisch| <font
 * I did copyedits and add the templates. Allegheny Islands State Park uses the single templates too. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 03:13, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

I always used the lat and long distance calculator, as I don't have a great map for state parks outside of PA. By the way, I found the searchable IUCN database and some of the PA state parks that are in the database are listed as IUCN II (National Park!?!). Here is the link. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 02:30, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Very minor tweak - one word, a date, and, of course, some commas: DYK...that Fox Point State Park, a Delaware State Park along the Delaware River, was built atop a hazardous waste Superfund site, opening in 1995? Glad you like the IUCN website, even if I don't understand why some state parks are IUCN II. Take care, not sure how much else I will get done here tonight. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 01:04, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Just saw your latest DYK (Fort Delaware SP) on the Main Page - congrats! Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 01:49, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

New Nav
Yeah, that new nav box is sweet! Zanter 20:54, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

New Geobox
Glad you caught that too - I had network problems much of the evening, but should get a new panorama up today or tomorrow - I think you will like it. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 03:19, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Glad you like it - I also added it to Northumberland, Pennsylvania and West Branch Susquehanna River. It was much cloudier most of the the time we were there, but started to clear up. We also went to the Marina unit and I got a few pics there and of some other sights in Northumberland. Of course as we left, the sun was out and there were few clouds, but I think the panorama with clouds is OK. I will add them to Commons and do a Commonscat. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 22:57, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I did some copyedits on it - the first ref mentions the Superfund arm of the Delaware govt doing some of the work, so I think I read that and thought it was a Superfund site and suggested that. Looks OK to me. I can leave an explanation at the nom if you think that would help. Did not get to improving Plunketts Creek here this weekend after all, though I have it mapped out mentally and notes on paper. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 03:01, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I put one there last night after my copyedits and message to you - let me know if it is not clear enough (the above note is more detailed). Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 20:35, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Congrats - just saw Fox Point SP on the Main Page in DYK! Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 22:43, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I added a pic to Joseph Priestley House (just took it this weekend) which is now a stub. I plan to expand it next (with hopes of a DYK). I have some more pics of Shikellamy SP, but want to try and finish Plunketts Creek first, then submit it to Peer Review. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 00:59, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Did you know

 * I saw it in the DYK next update queue first (as it was missing from the nominations page), but didn't want to jinx you by an early congrats. I don't know of a statue of Shikellamy - there are often weird restrictions on photos of statues because the statue is usually a copyrighted work of art. If you find one, let me know and I will see if I can get a picture of it at some point. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 01:59, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I did not see a statue at the park, but I also did not see a park map posted there or even an explantion of who Shikellamy was. Shikellamy HS is perhaps doable, I would love to make a pilgrimage to Womelsdorf and see Weiser's homestead, but it will be a while. My guess is that the statue at Weiser's would be older and more likely to be out of copyright issues. I am almost done with Plunketts Creek for submission to Peer Review. When it is ready (or whenever) any comments would be welcome - I am getting saturated with it, but am amazed at how much info I could find on a truly small stream. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 01:25, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Bowden article
Hey, you may have noticed that the Bowden article is edit-protected because the same carping that's infected Paterno's article has been going on there as well. I've just proposed a resolution on the Bowden talk page. Could you, as a sensible PSU fan, check it out and let the admins know if it makes sense to you? Thanks! Jbening 01:07, 20 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Thank you so much for the Barnstar--I couldn't be happier if I were a sneetch! Thanks also for contributing your opinion to the Bowden talk page. Jbening 21:51, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
Hi Dinch, thanks so very much for the barnstar - it is a complete surprise and I am glad you like and appreciate the photos. I will keep trying to get more and to work on my picture backlog. Thanks again, Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 01:04, 21 September 2007 (UTC) (unindent) Thanks for starting Old Loggers Path - I think I can expand it a little as I have a book with it in there. Maybe we can even get another joint DYK out of it - DYK that the Old Loggers Path, a loop hiking trail in Lycoming County, Pennsylvania, uses old logging railroad grades and roads, and its trailhead is the lumber ghost town of Masten? As for admin stuff, you should probably look at WP:RfA for some current Requests for Adminship to get an idea of what is involved and expected. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 01:29, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I somehow missed your message from the 20th about the Penn State edit war until now - sorry. Hope the warring has died down and sorry about the loss to Michigan (boo hiss). I uploaded a panorama of Bald Eagle Mountain just now - took the picture last summer, stitched them together this weekend. Plunketts Creek is at peer review. No feedback yet. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 14:50, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the peer review comments - I have made both suggested changes and appreciate your input very much, Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 02:44, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks in advance for copyediting Plunketts Creek. I have also printed it out and read and marked it several times, but I am taking a break from it for now - too familiar. I am quite excited about baseball lately. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 04:09, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
 * You caught something I missed! I will reply at the Peer Review page - thanks again, Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 00:59, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I do not have a picture of it, but I dug out my copy of 50 Hikes in Central PA and it has several pages on the trail for expansion. I may be able to get a picture this weekend if I can get there. I already looked on Flickr, but there are no free images (although there are some nice new images of the trail). I think I can also make a stab at a Masten article this weekend and have a DYK idea for that too. Do what you think best for the Admin nom - I can understand either way. Ruhrfisch  <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 03:58, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

What about being an admin?
<div class="boilerplate metadata" id="contact me" style="background-color: #CCFFCC; border: 1px solid #009900; margin: 0 5%; padding: 0 7px 7px 7px font-size:95%;"> Hi Dincher, I want to nominate you for adminship, I'm pretty sure you would be a good sysop. Please take a look at Administrators to check what are admin's roles, and let me know if it's ok for you ;-)

 Snowolf How can I help? 21:25, 25 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi Dinch, I think you would make a great admin and would support your candidacy if you choose to seek adminship. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 23:00, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Great, let me know and I will support your candidacy for adminship Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 00:59, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Morelli
Admit it: For a moment you actually considered leaving the vandalism on the Anthony Morelli article, didn't you? —xanderer 00:41, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Old Loggers Path
The DYK nomination is in - I probably will not be able to get a picture this weekend, although I may by next. I will work on the Plunketts Creek peer review next and am not sure if you noticed Choess left a message for both of us on my talk page. Hope all is well, sorry about Penn State. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 10:55, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorry again about Penn State. Glad to nominate OLP - if you read Choess' talk page, I found a ref to anthrax at the Proctor tannery back in 1897. I see List of municipalities in Lycoming County, Pennsylvania is in article space now - cool! I know I still owe you some redlinks and the history section. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 23:34, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I think it could be FL with a little work - looks good already. Forgot to say that I made a stub for Masten last night. I keep finding things looking for a tannery picture - found out that Hillsgrove Twp in Sullivan Co was originally named... (wait for it) Plunketts Creek Township (see here). I may never actually finish this article to get it through PR, let alone to FAC. ;-) Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 23:43, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I have three more additions for Plunketts and these include three refs, bringing it to 51 if I count right. It is a most detailed leaf for sure. Good night, Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 04:08, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Made it to 52 refs, but I think it is basically done. I like the township info boxes - good job! Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 02:50, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

(unindent) I like doing mindless tasks sometimes here - like fixing all the Meginness refs in Wikipedia. Good luck with the termites. Only one redlink to go. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 03:29, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Your rating of National Aviary
I see that you have rated National Aviary as start-class on the quality scale. Please provide an explanation on that article's talk page as to why you believe the article is start-class as opposed to B-class, and what you think the article's editors could do to improve the article to B-class. Thanks! --M @ r ē ino 01:00, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Kinzua Bridge
Hey, I'm just about finished with the Kinzua Bridge article. I was hoping that you would be able to look it over before I move it to the mainspace. It's in my sandbox. Also, wanted to see if you could think of a good hook for DYK (I have a few, but none are that great). Thanks. --​​<font size="3" face="Old English Text MT">​​D <font face="Euclid Fraktur">​​tbohrer​​​ ​talk•contribs 04:15, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

List
I see you found the pictures I uploaded - thanks again for the infoboxes. What would you think of a little map for each place in the Lycoming Co list? Also I was wondering about making the footnotes in the column header for the ones that have the same ref for all the entries (like ref 1). I added the villages to the townships on the county page a long time ago - would that be OK as comments for twps? I was going to work on the list some tonight too unless you were planning to. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 00:00, 4 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Sorry to be unclear - I meant that I would add a tiny county locator map to each entry (like the List of counties in Kentucky article does). I also was going to see if I could make a large map at the bottom that would have the names of the boroughs and twps and city wikilinked. Finally, what I meant with the column was that instead of every entry having a ref to Meginness, why not just have one ref to Meginness in the top of that column? We had to take out a lot of ref for the state parks list, so that is what I though to do here. Ruhrfisch  <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 00:45, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Did you know

 * Congrats to you too and thanks for all your help with this, I am working on the FAC nom, then will work on the list. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 01:46, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks so much!
Hi Dincher, thanks for suggesting I write Plunketts Creek (Loyalsock Creek) and for all your help with the peer review. Here's a Wiki Thank You! Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 02:52, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Enjoy the visit and a wikibreak. I moved the refs last night and will work on the villages next - not sure there is room for the maps and comments, but I will  paly around with it. Take care, Ruhrfisch  <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 16:06, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Nice picture of the bunker - I got some of OLP and Masten this weekend. Glad you added Garden View to the list. I will try to finish adding villages and expand the intro. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 02:37, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Do you think the list is ready to send to Peer Review? I want to go through Meginness and see if I can't fill in a few blanks (I think Wmspt had to be formed from Loyalsock just by looking at a map, plus he usually has the date of a first settler), but those could be filled in in PR. What do you think? I also wonder about including Garden View as it is not incorporated - could ask about this in PR. I have to print out the list and sit down with a red pen next. I also was somehow distracted from doing Wiki or other work tonight, but am smiling broadly now - wahoo! Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 04:05, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your support of Plunketts Creek in FAc, I appreciate it. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 01:17, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Lycoming List
Hi Dinch, I added FL to WikiProject Pennsylvania/Assessment - not sure what else to do. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 00:00, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I am working on the former incorporated areas - have to add Sullivan County. Then I want to do a bunch of things to get Larrys Creek ready for TFA. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 00:35, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks my friend. Please keep working on the "formed froms", if you just edit the List_of_municipalities and I just edit List_of_former_municipalities, we will avoid conflicts (I think). I will make locator maps for the former munis list too. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 00:48, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
 * As I understand it, we can't each edit the whole article at the same time, but we can work on separate sections - aren't wikis cool? Thanks for all the "formed froms" so far too, Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 00:57, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I added maps of Ceres and Tioga townships to the list. Next to add the Sullivan Co. twps (already have those maps). Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 01:32, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Larrys and the List
Would you mind taking a look at Larrys Creek and see if there is anything that needs to be fixed or updated? I plan to add more pictures to Commons and do Commonscat, switch to Geobox 2 (like Plunketts Creek now), that can have the PA locator map so I will add that for the mouth (dot), I plan to do the ref italics and quotes like Plunketts Creek, there are some maps I want to add as references (State Game Lands and the "Map 61" sections for detailed Geology, again thanks to Plunketts), and I am seriously thinking of taking convert out (it is not in Plunketts) as the article loads slowly (switching Geoboxes will help speed it up too). I also need to write the covered bridge article (I already have the DYK hook) and am thinking of a Larrys Creek tributaries list article if I have time. Woohoo.

Forgot to metion before - I think the list would be ready to go to Peer Review as that can take a few weeks and LC will be on the Main Page in 9 days. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 01:38, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Do you want to submit it to PR or do you want me to? I added some pictures after the parks list model and reorganized the text a bit. The Commonscat is up on Larrys. If possible I want to drive it and get some more pics, the mouth, a sawmill (there are two on 287), the helipad, maybe the lodge for the hunting club, an agricultural shot, and the source if possible. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 03:43, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I was bold and nominated it: Peer review/List of municipalities in Lycoming County, Pennsylvania Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 01:11, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Glad to do it - So far Michael Devore fixed some typos in the list, but no actual comments - I will run the auto PR script on it as AZPR in a bit. I am slowly fixing minor Larrys Creek issues. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 20:45, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks so much for looking at Larrys Creek - if you don't mind, could you open Plunketts Creek (Loyalsock Creek) and see how long it takes to load in comparison? It is a similar sized article, but has the supposedly faster loading Geobox 2 and no convert templates. I think I have mentioned this before, but Muncy Creek as a redirect to the Twp is what got me started on creeks as articles here (already liked them in real life), so I am glad to work on the Lyco List (plus I just like working with you). Once Larrys is ready I will work on the clickable map for the list. I like leaves - they are more manageable than trees. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 00:59, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Wow, nearly four times as long to load - OK, I will work on getting rid of convert and switching to Geobox2 tonight. Thanks a lot, Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 01:05, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I know I have a lot of work to do on WDHC eventually, but will not even think of it for now (thanks for checking though). I did get some pix along Larrys Creek but have to upload them (and the land to walk from the highway to the source is all marked "private, no trespassing", so short of a boat I don't own, I am not sure how to get a photo of the source.) Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 01:16, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

(unindent) With the drought, I could get away with boots and staying close to the shore. I think I read once that the state legislature made Larrys Creek a public highway back in the early 1800s, but I am not sure I want to test this in a court of law. :-) Off to work on the article, Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 01:28, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the congrats. The converts are all out, it is now Geobox 2, so Larrys is much faster loading for me. Still have some tweaks to do and two articles to write. I also uploaded a lot of new pix to Commons - I think I will add one or two to the article. Thanks for the addition to the List and replying to the PR. I took care of the semi automated PR stuff and split the lead into 3 paragraphs with a tweak or two. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 01:56, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I think Larrys is basically ready. I have started the covered bridge article and asked Daniel Case (who was very helpful with White Deer Hole Creek) to take a look at it too. I still have to write the list of tribs article, but that should be OK to do. I also added two pix - one winter and one autumnal. Phew. Am somewhat bummed out as IvoShandor has quit. Take care, Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 00:53, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks - I am just being super anal about it being on the main page. I have two DYK hooks I am debating for the Cogan House Covered Bridge article. Ivo was upset about DYK, see here and below. I hope this blows over and he comes back if he feels like it. Have a good one, Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 02:36, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

St Leonards, New South Wales
Hello Dincher. I noticed you moved the article on St Leonards, New South Wales to a page that includes punctuation. The Geographical Naming Board of New South Wales removed punctuation from almost all place names in this state, as have similar naming boards across Australia. St Leonards is now the correct way to spell this suburb, not St. Leonards. The same applies to other places such as St Marys, Huntleys Cove and Hunters Hill, to name a few. All wikipedia articles abide to the naming convention. Cheers, J Bar 01:48, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the info on St Leonards. I was "being bold." Perhaps I should've researched some more. Dincher 20:06, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

No worries. Sometimes local knowledge can be really valuable. The good thing about wikipedia is that there's a lot of people out there with a lot of local knowledge that they can share. Cheers, J Bar 22:26, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I think that all of the "Saint" places should be changed to just that Saint Lenoards or Saint Louis or Saint Whoever. That would save some trouble and only cost us three letters! =) Dincher 02:40, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

FL Main page proposal
You either nominated a WP:FLC or closed such a nomination this year. As such, you are the type of editor whose opinion I am soliciting. We now have over 400 featured lists and seem to be promoting in excess of 30 per month of late (41 in August and 42 in September). When Today's featured article (TFA) started (2004-02-22), they only had about 200 featured articles and were barely promoting 20 new ones per month. I think the quality of featured lists is at least as good as the quality of featured articles was when they started appearing on the main page. Thus, I am ready to open debate on a proposal to institute a List of the Day on the main page with nominations starting November 1 2007, voting starting December 1 2007 and main page appearances starting January 1 2008. For brevity, the proposal page does not discuss the details of eventual main page content, but since the work has already been done, you should consider this proposal assuming the eventual main page will resemble either an excerpted list format or an abbreviated text format. The proposal page does not debate whether starting with weekly list main page entries would be better than daily entries. However, I suspect persons in favor of weekly lists are really voicing opinions against lists on the main page since neither TFA nor Picture of the day started as weekly endeavors, to the best of my knowledge. Right now debate seems to be among support for the current selective democratic/consensus based proposal, a selective dictatorial approach like that used at WP:TFA or a non-selective first in line/calendar approach like that used at WP:POTD. See the List of the Day proposal and comment at WP:LOTDP and its talk page.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 18:55, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Rain etc.
I am not sure why but I think they use millimeters for rain. My beloved PA Gazetteer of Streams II gives precipitation in inches and mm. I have not had time to read the list proposal yet. I am OK with the idea in general, have to see the details - some lists are pretty dry. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 22:59, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the DYK fix buddy! I owe you, Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 21:09, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Dick Anderson
I created Dick Anderson tonight. Please take a look and fix what you think needs to be fixed. Thanks. Dincher 00:34, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Bravo Dincher! I'm going to dig out my PSU Football Media Guide and see if there's anything significant I can add. BTW: I was at that woeful game in 1988 when Rutgers beat us…and when Syracuse did…and Pitt. Oh, the pain! —xanderer 02:27, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Hook
How about that American football coach Dick Anderson, who led Rutgers to its first victory over Penn State in 70 years, was a Penn State assistant coach before and after his time at Rutgers? Super busy in real life - feel free to tweak, Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 14:17, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the congrats - still pretty busy IRL so not a lot of time on wiki, but it was a blast to see it on the Main Page. Good luck on the DYK, Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 02:57, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your help
Thanks for reverting vandalism on Larrys Creek on October 19. I appreciate your help keeping the article presentable while it was Today's Featured Article very much. Thanks too for the bridge article congrats, Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 19:59, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

An article which you started, or significantly expanded, Dick Anderson (American football coach), was selected for DYK!
Thanks for your contributions! Nishkid64 (talk) 21:11, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Nice work Dincher! —xanderer 23:55, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Ditto - congratulations! Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 23:58, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Always glad to provide a hook for a nicely done article, Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 01:02, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Triple crown
Your Majesty, it gives me great pleasure to bestow this triple crown award for your volunteer service. May you wear it well. Durova Charge! 01:07, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
 * It was my pleasure to nominate you, your majesty ;-) Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 20:24, 23 October 2007 (UTC)