User:Gerry D/archive9


 * Welcome to my talk page. See the old stuff here in that cool little filing cabinet

Brotherly welcome
I fixed it - I used a pipe "|" instead of a colon ":" after "subst". The template is welcomeg. Glad to see I am first on your new talk page, Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 23:25, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I was in a hurry and added the template with an error to his user page instead of his talk page. Just in case that wasn't clear, I add Ruhrfisch  &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 23:54, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Question from HBCU template
This is a very useful and informative template. I was wondering if their is a similar list or template that lists HBCU's by state. Dincher (talk) 04:00, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Please see List of historically black colleges of the United States. -- Absolon S. Kent (talk) 14:25, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Next map
I was wondering what state park map to work on next (I know, World's End awaits). One thought I had was a single map for both Colton Point and Leanard Harrison - what do you think? Another way to ask this is which article do you want to work on improving after WESP? Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 21:10, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I can work on the Geology section. One thing I noticed is that th history section has no recent stuff - will see what I can find. Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 03:17, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
 * So far I have thought of adding the date for the Loyalsock Trail, found some info on the kayak races in the park on the Loyalsock, and found a pay only ref on the date of the new ranger station - first flush toilets in the park. Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 20:07, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I think a sentence or two on the services would be fine to add. Good find - I took a bit of a break today but am back now. Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 02:02, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I am somewhat busy in real life today, at least for the next several hours. I will take a closer look at all your hard work then - also have material to at least start a modern era section in History and to expand the Cogan House Covered Bridge, just have to find time to add them. Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 16:56, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Worlds End State Park questions
Hi Dinch, I think I have expanded the History section about as much as can be done with the refs I was able to find. I have a couple of questions. I cannot find any mention of the whitewater slalom races on the web post 2005. I also do not find anything that says the races have ended, but it seems like they might have. Barring a WP:RS though I am not sure how to include this in the article. I also note that in Black Mo, we included the 20 Must See parks in the History section. Here it is in Recreation. I actually found that the 20 must see parks first went on the web in 2004 here. Do you think I should move this? If so I can add a different intro to recreation. I also combined Horse trails and Lumber era as the Horse trails was only one paragraph long - does this seem OK? I added a bit on the family cabins sizes - tried to make it not like a travel brochure. I kind of worry that the chapel services are held elsewhere in case of rain may be seen as too brochure-y, but we can wait for Peer Review comments if you want. Finally, I note that the structure of Black Mo after History (2 Geology and climate, 3 Ecology, 4 Recreation) is much different than that of Worlds End (3 Natural history, 3.1 Wildlife, 3.2 Geology and fossils, 4 Recreation). I will work on Geology and climate next - what do you think of making a section on that, followed by an ecology section with plats and animals? Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 21:07, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
 * OK, I will work on a certain covered bridge next and then on the Geology, fossils, and climate section. Plus the never ending Peer Review backlog calls. Thanks for moving the must see stuff and tweaking the chapel services. I fixed the ref 20 date problem - "acces[s]date" was missing an s, but it took me a while to see that. Going off wiki for a few hours soon, take care, Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 21:24, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I found the new web link and restored the ref. Thanks for fixing my Black Mo copy and paste error - D'Oh! Ruhrfisch  &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 01:14, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I rearanged the sections and found that Worlds End is part of IBA 42, which gives us many more bird species to add. I find myself working on the Wildlife part more right now - if you would rather, let me know. Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 12:07, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Here is the list of all of them, Ricketts Glen, Pine Creek Gorge Parks, Oil Creek, Cook Forsest and several others are in or are IBAs from a quick scan. Have a good weekend, I will plug away at Worlds End. Ruhrfisch  &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 14:00, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I forgot to order the official NRHP nomination form for the bridge until today - the other two Lycoming Co. covered bridges nom forms online have some more info, so I want to wait until I get that before going to FAC. It might take a few days or it might take a week, so I am fine with going to PR now. I think you are not supposed to have two noms at FAC at the same time, but I wouldn't want that anyway. Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 01:52, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Cogan House Covered Bridge
Thanks for the heads up - I think I fixed the missing refs and end of the article problem. I will also add a bit about how to get to the bridge (I have driven right past the turnoff a few times - it is not well marked). I have a fair amount of material still to add - more on the 1998 rehab, some more details on the structure, an incident in 2000 when a propane truck going to the hunting camp damaged it and it had to be repaired again. One of the refs in Worlds End is not working - natural history or wildlife. Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 00:23, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Forgot to say that it used to be spelled "English Centre" in the 19th century and the name switched to "English Center" at some point. Since it is not central to the article, I just changed them all to English Center to match the map. Thanks for catching that.
 * As for getting there (more detail than waranted in the article) you can get to PA 184 from Route 15 (turn west at Fry's Turkey Ranch) or from PA 287 (turn east at Brookside) and go 3.1 miles to T784 (from Evans' book) then south.
 * Thanks for catching "scenic" - it is a peacock word. I made a few more tweaks, and have a few more things I want to check before submitting it to Peer Review. Any more feedback would be great, Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 02:56, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
 * The bridge is up at peer review - added a new photo to the article too. Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 19:35, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for you kind words, comments (and you are quick too). I have replied on the PR page. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 20:24, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I found the second paragraph of Grand jury to be useful and linked to that instead. I also uploaded a new internal panorama of the bridge, but it is too bright on the left for the article. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 16:38, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks again - do you think I should remove the Commissioner and PennDOT guys' names now or wait and see? I plan to start on the Worlds End Geology tonight. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 00:39, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

hi
Hi Dincher. Is that your last name?

I swear that the reference has changed since I saw it. It did not have a photo and was much shorter. I have corrected the WP text. Yahoo sports is making me look like a liar or an idiot! BVande (talk) 19:30, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

IBA state parks
Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 14:56, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 1 - Presque Isle State Park
 * 3 - Pymatuning State Park
 * 12 - Moraine State Park and Jennings Environmental Education Center
 * 13 - Raccoon Creek State Park
 * 18 - Oil Creek State Park
 * 19 - Cook Forest State Park
 * 23 - Yellow Creek State Park
 * 26 - Ohiopyle State Park
 * 28 - Colton Point State Park and Leonard Harrison State Park
 * 30 - Bucktail State Park
 * 33 - Black Moshannon State Park
 * 40 - Caledonia State Park, Mont Alto State Park, and Pine Grove Furnace State Park
 * 42 - Worlds End State Park
 * 47 - Codorus State Park
 * 49 - Ricketts Glen State Park
 * 62 - Promised Land State Park
 * 65 - Hickory Run State Park
 * 72 - Ridley Creek State Park
 * 74 - French Creek State Park
 * 76 - Canoe Creek State Park
 * 77 - McConnells Mill State Park
 * 79 - Maurice K. Goddard State Park
 * 83 - Benjamin Rush State Park

Thanks for Peter Pronovost DYK
Thanks for Peter Pronovost DYK. I was wondering when anybody would notice how important this article is (I may be biased)! Please also note my changes to Wilmington State Parks. Smallbones (talk) 03:53, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Worlds End PR
Looks good - I added the topic (geography). I heard back from the NRHP already and they do not have anything on the bridge that is not already online, so I am going to submit to FAC later today. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 20:01, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Glad to help - I made stubs for the other two covered bridges (will expand Buttonwood for a DYK idea) and will nominate later this evening. I am a bit nervous as I do not know that much about bridges compared to creeks (or have an expert on hand like you for state parks). Looking at the WESP lead it seems simpler than the Black Mo lead - not sure if that is a good thing or not. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 21:03, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
 * The FAC is in, I found a typo in the PR and fixed it, and Michael Devore has found several typos in Worlds End and the bridge. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 04:37, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
 * The DYK has to do with the fact that in the flood of 1889 the bridge was washed off its abutments, floated downstream to a field and was then taken apart, transported in pieces back to the site and reassembled there. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 14:18, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Now to find the time to expand the article. I have four different reliable sources forthe Buttonwood bridge that give four different dates for its construction. I added some pics and tweaked the lead and fishing sections per the PR - hope the changes are OK. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 20:09, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the support at FAC. Do you know anyone to ask for comments at the Worlds End PR? Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 14:34, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Good ideas - I asked Jackyd101 and will try to think of anyone else. I sent you an email too - will try to get more WE pics soon. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 14:41, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for asking them all - I will look at Yellow Creek next, Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 15:35, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Yellow Creek looks good and glad to hear they are being greener - I think "Environmental awareness" is a good section title. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 15:38, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
 * The concern is more with self-published work, I think. The Lycoming County Historical Museum was renamed for Taber, and he was profiled in the local Sun-Gazette newspaper recently, so I think he is OK as a source. The trail ref is non-controversial (dates of the trail) so I think using the club's webpage is OK - I do not own the LT Guide book (yet). Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 05:11, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
 * PS Look at the Commons Worlds End cat - I was busy this evening uploading and stitching panoramas. Will also add some tomorrow Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 05:13, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I added pics to Worlds End and replied to the PR - hope both are OK, feel free to change the pics and captions as you think best, Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 16:34, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks - there are several other pics on Commons - more picnic areas, another shot of the swimming area, etc. If you like any of them better, please switch. We do not have any pics of animals - the new visitor center has stuffed dead animals, but I did not photograph them and don't really want taxidermy pics as wildlife images. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 23:01, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

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Bok sources
I saw this too and am in the process of asking Ealdgyth to take a look - she checks refs on all FACs and would seem to be a neutral party. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 15:12, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Lewisberry, Pennsylvania
Can you please use some references for the History section of this article?  Otolemur crassicaudatus  (talk) 18:21, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Oops, my bad. I need a cup of coffee. I was talking about the Geography section. That needs some expansion and referencing. The present version is only mention of a single fact from census.  Otolemur crassicaudatus  (talk) 18:39, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!
Woo-hoo!!! Thanks! I had not seen it yet. Thanks too for your help with the article and support. Formal thank spam to follow.

The SAPR is semi-automated peer review from the script - I will take a bit of a wikibreak this weekend, so if you could do them for the new ones at PR, that would be great. I can give you directions how I do it if you want. Thanks Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 01:14, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for doing the SAPRs - I am back and can take over again. Great time and will have some photos to post soon, Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 19:56, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

re: Worlds End State Park
Hey, Dincher, thanks for the note. I'm frightfully occupied at the moment, I'm afraid, so I may not be able to get to the PR in time. If it's still around after this weekend, I may stop in, but no promises. Sorry and best of luck, María ( habla con migo ) 12:38, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Running out of runway. A few draft comments on the first half here. Will try to complete this weekend, but can't guarantee it. Yrs hastily, Ben MacDuiTalk / <small style="color:#228B22">Walk 20:20, 30 May 2008 (UTC)


 * I saw MacDui's comments on the PR page but have not yet had a chance to look closely at them or the article (seemed like there some questions on some). Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 20:11, 1 June 2008 (UTC)


 * OK, I just saw there were some where you wrote not sure, or will have to check, so I was going to double check those. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 20:40, 1 June 2008 (UTC)


 * OK, thanks for all of your work on the refs (and article). I will still double check and have to make a stub for the geology redlink (Huntley Mountain Formation). Did you see Ealdgyth replied on Bok on my talk page? I am going to archive it soon. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 20:49, 1 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I just thanked her too - if you do decide to go to FAC with Bok I have some ideas - his testimony before the Senate committee would make a great source, just have to find it. I also think a section on responses to and reviews of his autobiography might be interesting. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 21:04, 1 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I have printed out Worlds End to proofread it one last time - should finish that tonight. Also will look at MacDui's peer review comments more closely - still getting back to speed from my break. SHould also be able to write the stub tonight. WOuld FAC tomorrow be OK if all goes well tonight? Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 21:17, 2 June 2008 (UTC)


 * OK, I will do Peer Review stuff for the next half hour or so, then back to Worlds End. Hopefully can upload some pics a bit later too. Amazing how children eat into your time - but well worth it. Take care too my friend, Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 01:16, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

OK, I think I fixed all of the PR stuff that was uncertain and I swapped to the new picture for the Geobx - great find! I did not have a chance to do the read aloud proofreading yet and I have to make a stub still. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 05:07, 3 June 2008 (UTC)


 * My "read out loud" copyedits on Worlds End are done. Please check - I tried to combine some short sentences and reword a few things to make the flow better per Jackyd101's comments. I took out Williamsport sawmills as the Loyalcock is downstream of their locations. I added the DCNR 20 Must see sentence to the lead like Black Mo has (which was a FAC request). I have two more question (plus I need to make the very stubby Huntley Mountain formation article). 1) Do you want to separate the park map from the Geobox (as was done with Black Mo in FAC)? If so I would put it in the Name section. 2) The MOS recommends not having photos on the left side under level three headers. Right now a few are - I like alternating left and right photos, but can move them all right if you think it best (or we can just wait and do it in FAC if requested to).


 * Glad you like the new Hyner View pic - I had seen a hang glider pic at the park on Flickr sometime ago and your find of the new Worlds End photo inspired me to upload it, but it was already on Commons (I added it to the park's cat). I did find the paraglider and uploaded that - I think it is a nicer picture and shows the river and forests too. When do youwant to nominate for FAC? I would mention the model of Black Mo. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 19:46, 3 June 2008 (UTC)


 * OK, the Huntley Mountain Formation stub is started. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 20:44, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem at all - I may ask Jackyd101 to look at it again (to see if all the problems are fixed) and perhaps Yllosubmarine may weigh in by then too. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 21:16, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I have to make a map for Jackyd101 and may ask him to take another look when that is done. The DCNR page usually says how big the maps are (in KB) - a bot fixed the Black Mo map link recently so that is probably the model to use (and I did not for the Hyners). I just changed Worlds End - here is the page for it that shows the size . I note Worlds End also has official campground and cabins maps - are these worth adding as External links too? Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 21:33, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * FAC on Saturday is fine with me - I will do another read through tomorrow to double check it for rough spots. I changed the pics in Black Mo - do they look OK? There are now 70 images (!) on Commons. Will also add a few to the Historic District article. Hope to do some bridge work in the next few hours. Thanks, Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 01:52, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

FAC nom looks fine - thanks. I took out the date for the must see list too. Will work on a bridge today. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 14:08, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * DYK is backlogged, so I have time to add more pix and a Geobox to all three. I made a roadtrip and got more pix of all three. I have looked at the Worlds End refs fairly carefully twice now and cannot find the duplicate ref (although some of the External links to maps are refs). I will look once more then ask the user for specifics. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 23:02, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

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Whistle Pig Pizza
Cool! Wonder if that would be legal in a PA state park? I am still laughing, thanks Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 01:27, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, I read the legal regs for PA state parks recently and not hunting groundogs was the first point under hunting. I saw one at Black Mo a few times and even got a pic of it under a cabin. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 03:13, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I was planning on adding the Antes School pic anyway - thanks. Do you like the new Geobox pic? I am not done uploading - I have all of the Maintenance District buildings, several more cabin shots, a nice shot of a family of Canada geese that I may put in the IBA section (perhaps move the lake pic there up to Geology then), a salamander in the lake, some trails (inlcuding the Hay Road and a sign for the Ski Slope Trail), and a few replacement pics - essentially the same shot, but sunnier / greener. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 20:52, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I will see if I can get Forksville Covered Bridge up to good enough for DYK as a model. I have some other info from the Zacher and Evans books too (beyond the NRHP and NBI data). Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 03:52, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * OK, I will work on Forksville and Sonestown first since they have pics. I am staying busy with Peer Review. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 22:13, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Good pic of Forksville - I will have to look through mine and see what else I have of the bridge. I have tried to find a free pic of Hillsgrove, but have not yet. So far I have added the Geobox to Forksville and two more sentences. Glad you like the new Black Mo pics - should I say the old ones were taken in winter in the captions? Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 00:02, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * The Commons file gives the date of each image too, if anyone is interested. Glad you like all the pics - if you think any on Commons are better, feel free to swap them. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 02:11, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Bridges
I got a little carried away with Forksville Covered Bridge and think I should nominate it for GA. Anyway I have the info from the Zacher and Evans books for the other two bridges, which do you prefer to work on? Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 04:53, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * OK, the GA nom for Forksville is in and the DYK triple nom is in. I need to go to the library for more sources for all three, and need to do some more expansion work on Hillsgrove and especially Sonestown (which needs a Geobox still). The FAC is looking good - I will work on the links and checking refs in the next day or two. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 19:00, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks - I will ask for specifics at the FAC. Thanks too for catching the typo! Just found the Forksville CB served as a stream gauge around 1913. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 01:26, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
 * So far I have only uploaded one pic, at Hillsgrove Covered Bridge. More to come, hopefully soon. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 01:38, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I swapped out the pic in the DYK nom to the Sonestown CB pic you uploaded as it looked best at 100px of the three bridge photos. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 02:13, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Hillsgrove is cool - I have all 11 pics from it on Commons now. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 02:24, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Leonard Harrison
I found a couple of press releases and put them on the LHSP talk page. I just found this that the campsite closed for renovations April 11, t June 19, 2008 here Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 00:27, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Good news on the pics - I have three of Hillsgrove Covered Bridge on Commons so far (each a panorama). More to follow, Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 01:28, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for working on it - the Fair Play Men did not make it very far north, I doubt they got more than a few miles north of the West Branch. There was a native path up Pine Creek and the lumber rafts down it, then the railroad, now the rail trail. I have the Ecological History of the Pine Creek Gorge book and the West Rim trail guide gives lots of information on plants. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 23:02, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I also worry they will be fairly similar, but there are things on the West Rim (West Rim trail) not on the east and vice versa (CCC worker statue). We can always do one first then see about the other. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 23:37, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I think Leonard Harrison would be the one to do first - it is more developed and has the ranger station. I will be off wiki for a few hours, take care, Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 23:47, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Millersburg Ferry
I am surprised it is not yet on Wikipedia, glad you are adding it. There must be an infobox for it somewhere (Ferry or NRHP). ALthough I have driven past the sign many times, I have never stopped to see it or ride it or even get a picture. Possible DYK from the lead, something along the lines DYK ... that the Millersburg Ferry in Pennsylvania is the last ferry on the Susquehanna River and the last authentic stern-wheeled paddle wheeler operating in the United States? I have all of the Forksville pics on COmmons and will add them to the bridge article (which is pretty much done - feedack welcome) next. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 01:23, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I just updated the PR backlog, so still have not added new pics to Forksville. There are now 12 of the bridge on Commons. When I looked at the Ferry article the lead repeated the ownsership - I figured you were still working on it, so did not fix it. Maybe I can make it to the ferry one of these weeks. I am getting a bit antsy about the triple bridge DYK nom. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 01:38, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * The pics are up on Forksville. Rest well, Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 03:03, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I just tweaked the article and hook so it read "wooden double stern-wheel paddle boat" which is the wording used in the brochure. The covered bridges made it to the expiring noms before they got into DYK. I think it will be OK. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 17:04, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Forksville Covered Bridge
Thanks for the review comments - I have fixed both. The article just said Lewis was from Hillsgrove, but the link was to the township anyway. Thanks too for the typo catch on Sonestown and the triple congrats - it was not the pictured slot and the articles got no edits despite being on the main page (a first). Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 14:37, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Someone will get to it - if you want you could ask if it would be OK to review it at Wikipedia talk:Good Article nominations but don't worry about it. Do you think it is up to FA standards? I have almost everything in it that could be (I could lookup the population of Forksville in old census data and add that - not sure what else). Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 17:34, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Glad you had a nice day - I am about ready to expand Sonestown and Hillsgrove and was looking at a 1934 Souvenir of Hillsgrove I found and it mentioned the bridge as being in the township, so I did what I should have done at first and checked the maps. We got to hike along White Deer Hole Creek yesterday - the mountain laurel were in full bloom and it was just amazingly nice. Take care, Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 20:23, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your edits at the GA review. I have responded to all of them and will ask Juliancolton to take another look next. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 20:05, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Assuming it passes (agree it looks good), I might ask Juliancolton about its chances at FA. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 20:25, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I think it is a bug / glitch in the PR template. Here is the direct link Peer review/Forksville Covered Bridge/archive1 Thanks, Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 18:51, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I made a few changes to the article just now - think it is more FAC ready. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 21:21, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations!
Worlds End State Park just made FA! Woohoo and congratulations! Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 16:57, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Well the criteria (given at Featured topic criteria) is that 20% are Featured and the rest are Good articles or, if they are very short (i.e. Benjamin Rush) have had a peer review and been checked for completeness. There also has to be a lead article - for Must See Parks I am not sure if that could be the List of PA State Parks or not. 21 Must See parks would need 5 FAs and the rest GAs. 120 state parks (plus the list) would need 24 FAs and the rest GAs or checked. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 17:32, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the thanks notice - do you want to do them for everyone? Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 22:34, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Peer review of WV state parks list
Hi Dincher:

There is a peer review going on for the List of West Virginia state parks at this page. Your co-editor Ruhrfisch suggested I ask you for comments. Would you care to take a look? Any help you could provide would be great. Thanks! WVhybrid (talk) 22:21, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the comments. One question, do you think if the square thumbnails were made slightly larger, say 125 or 150 pixels instead of 100, that the sense of distortion would be less? (BTW, the thumbnails were cropped, not stretched, to become squares).  Thanks again for the comments, they are very useful.WVhybrid (talk) 00:09, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Happy Father's Day!
Happy Father's Day! Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 22:07, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

PS I found the Hillsgrove Covered Bridge is really in Hillsgrove Twp, not Elkland (two sources wrong, but PennDOT map, USGS topo map, and NBI all agree it is in Hillsgrove.

Frank W. Preston
I was looking on the NY Times to see if I could find his obituary, but I did not find it. I would tweak the DYK slightly, but it is similar to what I was thinking of (scientist and naturalist). The tweak is that he did not invent the process by which Corelle was made, just the furnace that made it possible for Corning to make it. How about Did you know that...Frank W. Preston invented the furnace which made Corelle glassware possible and worked to establish Moraine State Park in Pennsylvania? I also note the years of his birth are inconsistent in the article. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 02:05, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I did find several good refs in the NYT for Colton Point and Leonard Harrison, and they even mentioned Upper Pine Bottom once! Looking for CCC stuff for Worlds End I found that there had been a CCC camp in the WDHC watershed, 5 miles west of Elimsport. Found it yesterday too - helps that put a new sign up marking the spot, as not much beyond some concrete foundations are left and those are so overgrown they are hard to see. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 02:08, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I have also started working on a Colton Point and Leonard Harrison map. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 02:09, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Oil Creek is fine with me after the Pine Creek twins. I think Dtbohrer offered to help with the northwestern parks - it will be harder for me to get more pics of Oil Creek, if needed. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 02:58, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Sounds good to me. I really think I can get Upper Pine Bottom to GA, and Little Pine and Susquehanna too (those two probably even can be FA, though they are not must see parks). Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 03:20, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Bridges Geobox Problem
Finetooth noticed a problem with Geobox River about the same time, which has also been resolved without any action on his part. I did not see the problems. My guess is there was either Geobox vandalism or a good faith code change that had unintended consequences, or perhaps something with the Wiki software (Peer Review was truncated a while ago because of that). Thanks for the heads up and glad someone solved the problem. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 20:25, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I never saw the problem, was not on Wiki much so far today. Trying to get Hillsgrove done, then Sonestown. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 20:42, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Johnny Reder
Hi Dincher, if you check this link, which is referenced in article, it lists Reder as a Crosscutters player. I know the Williamsport Crosscutters article says the team was formed in 1994. However the team website linked has history going back further then that. Not sure why this is. Djln --Djln (talk) 00:18, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Sadly, I do not know much about the Greys or the Bills or the Cubs. I replied to Djln on his/her talk page too. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 03:20, 19 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi Dincher, I am not a baseball fan really, I only came across Reder as a soccer player. I don’t really feel qualified to write articles on baseball teams. That said I have started an article on Williamsport Grays based on this source  which seems to be part of the Wiki family. I do know that American clubs in all sports regularly change name and this can lead to confusion. This source  agrees with you and says Reder played for the Grays.  Djln--Djln (talk) 21:47, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

6/19 DYK

 * Woohoo! What a day! Congrats! Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 03:00, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!
Thanks again for your help with Forksville Covered Bridge and the congratulations. Off to do some copyvio cleanup. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 01:28, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Annville Township
Thanks for beginning the correction process for Annville Township. I've moved the pages and explained myself on the talk page. Nyttend (talk) 21:14, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Bills
Hi Dinch, I did not have internet access for a day or so (just got back on) and have limited access for the next day. I like the DYK idea, but would make it clearer they were a baseball team. Perhaps DYK... that former members of the minor league Williamsport Bills include World Series mananger Clint Hurdle, all-star Tino Martinez and Dave Bresnahan who threw a potato instead of a baseball into left field? Tried to add minor league and baseball - links would be good too. Take care, Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 23:16, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I will watch it - I looked at the first 300 images on Google Images for the Bills but found nothing. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 03:09, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Great~ if it is too bad, there is Image Lab or some similar name on Wikipedia where images can be cleaned up. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 03:51, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
 * They look good - there is a template for fair use I will dig will try toup and add to the image pages. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 14:59, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I did some copyedits - it might be useful to add the predecessor team and the team that followed. I still need to fix the logos. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 03:05, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
 * You are very welcome - I like the navbox at the bottom of the Bills and Cutters articles, good idea Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 16:51, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
 * It was a bot that removed it as a non-free image. I made an image substitution you might like. Thanks in advance for looking at the bridge. I need to work on the others too. Take care, Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 03:23, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Glad you liked it - I knew about it from the 10th anniversary. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 03:40, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

DYK

 * Congrats! Will try to copyedit the Bills in the next day or two Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 02:51, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Bellevue State Park DE
Why did you delete my question???? ANSWER IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BELLEVUE STATE PARK IS IN WILMINGTON, DELAWARE NOT NEW CASTLE, DELAWARE. EVEN THOUGH I LIVE IN ILLINOIS, I HAVE RELATIVES IN WILMINGTON SO I'VE BEEN TO THIS PARK MANY TIMES!!!! IF I SEE A CHANGE SAYING BELLEVUE STATE PARK IS IN NEW CASTLE, I WILL THINK YOU'RE NOT SMART!!!!!!!!!!!! Chugga (talk) 16:55, 26 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Dear Chugga, I am answering on Dincher's behalf and will copy this to your talk page too. My first suggestion to you is to carefully read WP:CIVIL as well as WP:NPA. Your message is not civil and the comment on Dincher's intelligence is a personal attack (as it is a negative comment on the editor and not the content). Stop this now.


 * My second suggestion to you is to learn to read more carefully in general. Dincher is away for a few days (as it clearly says at the top of his talk and user pages if you would read them carefully). If you would read the article more carefully, you would see that the article says the park is in New Castle County, Delaware (which is true), not the city of New Castle, Delaware (which it is not, as you so loudly pointed out above). The USGS GNIS entry for the park shows the county it is in as New Castle here. USGS topographic maps show the park and the two lakes here, northeast of Wilmington. The US Census map service shows the same two lakes in its maps and clearly they are outside of the political boundaries of the city of Wilmington and the town of Bellefonte, see |b=86|l=en|t=420|zf=0.0|ms=ref_legal_06pep|dw=0.05251964263582911|dh=0.029855862221778648|dt=gov.census.aff.domain.map.EnglishMapExtent|if=gif|cx=-75.49574196622962|cy=39.778238173040506|zl=3|pz=3|bo=1944:1986:1931:1930:1972|bl=1945:1987:1929:1973:1994|ft=1992:1970|fl=1971|g=04000US10&-_mapX=172&-redoLog=false&-errMsg=&-geo_id=04000US10&-_latitude=&-_lang=en&-_longitude= here. The postal address of the park is Wilmington, but as far as the political jurisdiction, it appears to be unincorporated New Castle County.


 * Third, there is no requirement I am aware of on Wikipedia that questions must be answered or that forbids users from clearing their talk pages of unwanted messages. I note that you blanked your own page today. I guess it is OK for you to remove unwanted messages, but not for others to do the same?


 * Finally, I am going to copy the location portion of this message to the park's talk page. If you would still like to discuss this, please do so there. If you have issues with me, I am glad to discuss them on my talk page. If you use all caps or personal attacks, I reserve the right to delete your messages without responding. Thanks for your work on Beanie Babies and for your interest in this park, Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 19:27, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

dyk Williamsport Bills

 * Congrats again and welcome back! Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 03:48, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Pics
I like the new pics - still have to upload mine Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 11:03, 1 July 2008 (UTC)