User:Group3jody/sandbox

Group 3, Team lead here.

March 20-ideas need to be emialed or posted here of supporting evidence that the CREATURE is GUILTY. Please provide the sources where you got the information

March 30-outline in progress


 * Special note: Supporting evidence will begin in chapter 10-24, where the creature tells his story to Victor then seeks revenge. Good luck and can't wait to see all the crazy stuff we come up with.

March 16, Chapter 13 (volume 2 chapter V) page 122 2nd paragraph “….For a long time I could not conceive how one man could go forth to murder his fellow, or even why there were laws and governments; but when I heard details of vice and bloodshed, my wonder ceased and I turned away with disgust and loathing.” (He knew that killing was wrong)

Page 103 2nd paragraph The monster states: “I will keep no terms with my enemies. I am miserable, and they shall share my wretchedness.” (Threatening and black mailing Dr. Victor Frankenstein)

Chapter VII volume two Page 130 “as yet I looked upon crime as a distant evil..”

Chapter viii volume 2 paragraph 3 page 138 “….i declared ever-lasting ware against the species, and, more than all, against him who formed me, and sent me forth to this insupportable misery.”

Volume tow chapter VII page 144 “Frankenstein! You belong then to my enempy-to him towards whom I have sworn eternal revenge; you shall be my first victim.” (the creature has admitted he is going to kill even knowing it is wrong) “I gazed on my victim, and my heart swelled with exultation and hellish triumph; clapping my hands, I exclaimed, “I too can create desolation; my enemy is not invulnerable; this death will carry despair to him, and a thousand other miseries shall torment and destroy him.”

Volume 3 chapter 3 page 173 “It is well. I go; but remember, I shall be with you on your wedding-night.” (Threatens victor again)

Alicia Martinez Creature is guilty I'm using the book from my ipad.

"Wretched devil" ch.10 123

"you accuse me of murder, and yet you would, with a satisfied conscience, destroy your own creature." ch. 10 125

"Cursed, cursed creator! Why did I live? Why, in that instant, did I not extinguish the spark of existence which you had so wantonly bestowed? I know not; despair had not yet taken possession of me; my feelings were those of rage and revenge. I could with pleasure have destroyed the cottage and its inhabitants and have glutted myself with their shrieks and misery." ch. 16 176 -seeking revenge

"I wished to see him again, that I might wreak the utmost extent of abhorrence on his head and avenge the deaths of William and Justine. ch. 9 112

"For the first time the feelings of revenge and hatred filled my bosom, and I did not strive to control them, but allowing myself to be borne away by the stream, I bent my mind towards injury and death. But again when I reflected that they had spurned and deserted me, anger returned, a rage of anger, and unable to injure anything human, I turned my fury towards inanimate objects" ch.16 179

"The nearer I approached to your habitation, the more deeply did I feel the spirit of revenge enkindled in my heart." ch. 16

"The sleeper stirred: a thrill of terror ran thought me. Should she indeed awake, and see me, and curse me, and denounce the murder?" ch. 16 187

---

Most of the information I was going to suggest has already been suggested above with the pages so I don't see the need to repeat instead I want to suggest what we should focus on to prove that the creature is guilty of the murders he committed.

I believe we should focus on how before the killings he had already taught it out and concluded that the actions he was going to commit were the acts of pure evil, even though he knew this he still chose to go through with them because he was consumed by his own hatred towards his creator and did not care about killing innocent people.

We should also discussed that the creatures actions should not be forgiven just because of the original actions of victors, he have to argue that two wrongs do not make a right and I believe we could compare the books story to something in real life, like for example how some parents in real abandon their Sons and Daughters when they are born and those sons and daughters turn out to life a nice life without having to kill someone just because the actions of the parents.

Hope this helps -Cristian B.

--- Thank you for your participation. we will discuss tuesday in class. reminder we have about 3 wks to have completed Janella

March 30th, Janella "Cursed, cursed creator! Why did I live? Why, in that instant, did I not extinguish the spark of existence which you had so wantonly bestowed? I know not; despair had not yet taken possession of me; my feelings were those of rage and revenge. I could with pleasure have destroyed the cottage and its inhabitants and have glutted myself with their shrieks and misery." ch. 16 176 with that being said, Victor, a selfish, obsessed man who completely lost himself in his work created a creature who he abandons at the moment of life, and turns on his creation. Later the creature makes himself out to be the monster in the story of Frankenstein by Mary Shelly, or in this case guilty. It may be argued that the creature in Mary Shelly’s Frankenstein is innocent. We cannot help to Gain sympathy because he is completely isolated. While expressive and emotional, the creature has no one to interact with. Being left alone at birth by his creator, Victor left him a painful first memory. “I was a poor, helpless, miserable wretch; I knew, and could distinguish, nothing; but feeling pain invades me on all sides, I sat down and wept,” (92). Some may argue that the creature was incapable of making the right judgment, that he is not responsible for his actions, or that he acted with a crime of passion; however, the evidence will prove these statements inaccurate. It has been said that the creature has lacked the capabilities necessary to make logical judgment calls in his life. This would be true had it not been for the education that he received mainly from the Delacy family. “….For a long time I could not conceive how one man could go forth to murder his fellow, or even why there were laws and governments; but when I heard details of vice and bloodshed, my wonder ceased and I turned away with disgust and loathing.” Here the creature has shown …………(need help)…………………………..another point that has shown that the creature was able to make a good judgment call is when he states, “as yet I looked upon crime as a distant evil.”  The creature was well aware that murder was wrong and he didn’t agree with these acts. However he committed these crimes anyway. The defendant may argue the creature is not responsible for his actions because he is not human. In actuality the creature is made up of human body pieces; therefore making him human. His appearance is the only thing that separates him from everyone else.

Here's my conclusion - Cristian Barragan

Conclusion

“I will keep no terms with my enemies. I am miserable, and they shall share my wretchedness.” These are the words of a true monster, a monster that sees no limit or boundaries in order to accomplish his bloody revenge. The creature from Frankenstein is not a monster due to the fact that he was created in a different form then we are, or even that it has many unhumanely characteristic’s. What makes the creature a monster are the horrific actions it performed. The creature has knowingly killed in the name of revenge even though it knows society’s laws on man slaughter and has even agreed in the past that it is morally wrong. The creature from Frankenstein did these horrific events after been engulfed in hatred due to an absentee father. And I agree that it must be hard not having a father in your life, However, this should not! Be a valid excuse to take a human life, especially for the fact that he killed innocent hard working people just to get his father’s attention. The creature is no better and no different than victor, It has been argued that the creature was deprived from fatherly love, but how many family members, friends and loved ones did he deprive from the same love when he killed the people who meant most to them? Ladies and gentlemen of the jury it is our jobs to enforce and maintain laws that are so crucial to our society, laws that have clearly have been broken in this case. I ask for you all to think of those innocent souls that were bloodily murdered as part of your own family and deliver the justice needed by putting this monster where he cannot hurt any more people every time he becomes emotionally unstable. Life behind bars.

Thank You.

Word Count: 305 - Body paragraphs Alicia Martinez If you want me to write more i will..

It has been said that the creature has lacked the capabilities necessary to make logical judgment calls in his life. This would be true had it not been for the education that he received mainly from the Delacy family. “….For a long time I could not conceive how one man could go forth to murder his fellow, or even why there were laws and governments; but when I heard details of vice and bloodshed, my wonder ceased and I turned away with disgust and loathing.” Here the creature has shown killing is disgusting and should not be done. Another point that has shown that the creature was able to make a good judgment call is when he states, “as yet I looked upon crime as a distant evil.” The creature was well aware that murder was wrong and he didn’t agree with these acts. However, he committed these crimes anyway. If Victor would have given the creature love, the creature might not have been influence to killed 4 human beings. The creature had the capability to not kill, but his judgment made him obligate to the crime just to get retaliation on Victor.

The defendant may argue the creature is not responsible for his actions because he is not human. In actuality the creature is made up of human body pieces; therefore making him human. His appearance is the only thing that separates him from everyone else. The creature’s monstrous appearance frightened everyone. If he did not have the features of a monster would he still have committed the murders? In the case, the creature still would have committed the murders. The creature’s actions would not change. If Victor isolated the creature, he would still want to get revenge on his creator.

"For the first time the feelings of revenge and hatred filled my bosom, and I did not strive to control them, but allowing myself to be borne away by the stream, I bent my mind towards injury and death. But again when I reflected that they had spurned and deserted me, anger returned, a rage of anger, and unable to injure anything human, I turned my fury towards inanimate objects" (179) The creature was ready to fight for want he wanted, and that was revenge. The creatures was precise one his law-breaking actions. The creature was set out to attaining payback on Victor. “I will keep no terms with my enemies. I am miserable, and they shall share my wretchedness.” (103) The creature would black mail and threaten Victor until Victor suffered like the creature had done. The creature also saw crime as,“as yet I looked upon crime as a distant evil..” (130)

___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ As you can all see we are missing quiet a bit of information. Honestly i am not happy with the outcome of this paper. And there is lack of work from some individuals that has hindered our paper, as well as information that does not pertain to our topic senteces.

"Cursed, cursed creator! Why did I live? Why, in that instant, did I not extinguish the spark of existence which you had so wantonly bestowed? I know not; despair had not yet taken possession of me; my feelings were those of rage and revenge. I could with pleasure have destroyed the cottage and its inhabitants and have glutted myself with their shrieks and misery." (Shelly 176). With that being said, Victor, a selfish, obsessed man who completely lost himself in his work created a creature that he abandons at the moment of life, and turns on his creation. The creature that once was once innocent makes himself out to be the monster in the story of Frankenstein by Mary Shelly, or in this case guilty. It may be argued that the creature in Mary Shelly’s Frankenstein is innocent. We cannot help to Gain sympathy because he is completely isolated. While expressive and emotional, the creature has no one to interact with. Being left alone at birth by his creator, Victor left him a painful first memory. “I was a poor, helpless, miserable wretch; I knew, and could distinguish, nothing; but feeling pain invades me on all sides, I sat down and wept,” (Shelly 92). Some may argue that the creature was incapable of making the right judgment, that he is not responsible for his actions, or that he acted with a crime of passion; however, the evidence has proven otherwise. It has been said that the creature has lacked the capabilities necessary to make logical judgment calls in his life. This would be true had it not been for the education that he received mainly from the Delacy family. “….For a long time I could not conceive how one man could go forth to murder his fellow, or even why there were laws and governments; but when I heard details of vice and bloodshed, my wonder ceased and I turned away with disgust and loathing.” Here the creature has shown killing is disgusting and should not be done. Another point that has shown that the creature was able to make a good judgment call is when he states, “as yet I looked upon crime as a distant evil.” The creature was well aware that murder was wrong and he didn’t agree with these acts. However, he committed these crimes anyway. If Victor would have given the creature love, the creature might not have been influence to killed 4 human beings. The creature had the capability to not kill, but his judgment made him obligate to the crime just to get retaliation on Victor. The may argue the creature is not responsible for his actions because he is not human. In actuality the creature is made up of human body pieces; therefore making him human. His appearance is the only thing that separates him from everyone else. The creature’s monstrous appearance frightened everyone. If he did not have the features of a monster would he still have committed the murders? In the case, the creature still would have committed the murders. The creature’s actions would not change. If Victor isolated the creature, he would still want to get revenge on his creator. "For the first time the feelings of revenge and hatred filled my bosom, and I did not strive to control them, but allowing myself to be borne away by the stream, I bent my mind towards injury and death. But again when I reflected that they had spurned and deserted me, anger returned, a rage of anger, and unable to injure anything human, I turned my fury towards inanimate objects" (179) The creature was ready to fight for want he wanted, and that was revenge. The creatures was precise one his law-breaking actions. The creature was set out to attaining payback on Victor. “I will keep no terms with my enemies. I am miserable, and they shall share my wretchedness.” (103) The creature would black mail and threaten Victor until Victor suffered like the creature had done. The creature also saw crime as,“as yet I looked upon crime as a distant evil..” (130). The creature clearly shows deliberate planning, premeditation, and malice in his murders. He committed these acts without just cause or legal excuse. “I will keep no terms with my enemies. I am miserable, and they shall share my wretchedness.” These are the words of a true monster, a monster that sees no limit or boundaries in order to accomplish his bloody revenge. The creature from Frankenstein is not a monster due to the fact that he was created in a different form then we are, or even that it has many inhumanely characteristic’s. What makes the creature a monster are the horrific actions it performed. The creature has knowingly killed in the name of revenge even though it knows society’s laws on man slaughter and has even agreed in the past that it is morally wrong. The creature from Frankenstein did these horrific events after been engulfed in hatred due to an absentee father. And I agree that it must be hard not having a father in your life, However, this should not! Be a valid excuse to take a human life, especially for the fact that he killed innocent hard working people just to get his father’s attention. The creature is no better and no different than victor, It has been argued that the creature was deprived from fatherly love, but how many family members, friends and loved ones did he deprive from the same love when he killed the people who meant most to them? Ladies and gentlemen of the jury it is our jobs to enforce and maintain laws that are so crucial to our society, laws that have clearly have been broken in this case. I ask for you all to think of those innocent souls that were bloodily murdered as part of your own family and deliver the justice needed by putting this monster where he cannot hurt any more people every time he becomes emotionally unstable. Life behind bars.

--- The devil is in the evidence "Cursed, cursed creator! Why did I live? Why, in that instant, did I not extinguish the spark of existence which you had so wantonly bestowed? I know not; despair had not yet taken possession of me; my feelings were those of rage and revenge. I could with pleasure have destroyed the cottage and its inhabitants and have glutted myself with their shrieks and misery." (Shelly 176). Are these not the words spoken of a man guilty of crimes lead by his own anger and vengeance? The creature created by Victor, a selfish, obsessed man who completely lost himself in his work created a creature that he abandons at the moment of life, and turns on his creation. The creature that once was once innocent made himself into the monster in the story of Frankenstein by Mary Shelly, or in this case guilty. It may be argued that the creature in Mary Shelly’s Frankenstein is innocent. We cannot help to Gain sympathy because he is completely isolated. The creature, whose seclusion restrictions from being the only creature filled with deformities in existence and soon rejected by humanity, feels being different is far most overwhelming. The creature’s abnormality, his ability to survive without knowledge, and the outrageous situations of Victor’s creation all serve to mark him as the essential outsider. While expressive and emotional, the creature has no one to interact with. Being left alone at birth by his creator, Victor left him a painful first memory. “I was a poor, helpless, miserable wretch; I knew, and could distinguish, nothing; but feeling pain invades me on all sides, I sat down and wept,” (Shelly 92). Some may argue that the creature was incapable of making the right judgment, that he is not responsible for his actions, or that he acted with a crime of passion; however, the evidence has proven otherwise. It has been said that the creature has lacked the capabilities necessary to make logical judgment calls in his life. This would be true had it not been for the education that he received mainly from the Delacy family. “….For a long time I could not conceive how one man could go forth to murder his fellow, or even why there were laws and governments; but when I heard details of vice and bloodshed, my wonder ceased and I turned away with disgust and loathing,” (Shelly 122) Here the creature has shown killing to be disgusting and should not be done. The creatures actions does not show his judgment on mankind, but when he feels the need of revenge, the creature erases his memories from saying, how he sees killing with disgust and loathing and changes into a creature that wants to seek reprisal and shows that he is very lonely and wants to associate with others. Another point that has shown that the creature was able to make a good judgment call is when he states, “as yet I looked upon crime as a distant evil,” (Shelly 130) The creature was well aware that murder was wrong and he didn’t agree with these acts. However, he committed these crimes anyway and therefore was punished with his behaviors. It may be argued the creature is not responsible for his actions because the creature is not human. In actuality the creature is made up of human body parts; therefore making him human. His humane characteristics must not be disregarded. The creature’s actions were just that of a normal man who acts out of anger or goes on a rampage. Admitting the framing of Justine, the Creature explains how and why he framed Justine for the murder: “She was… blooming in the loveliness of youth and health. Here, I thought, is one of those whose smiles are bestowed on all but me; she shall not escape thanks to the lessons of Felix, and the sanguinary laws of man, I have learned how to work mischief.” (Shelly 110). The creature kills three innocent people and also allows an innocent woman to die for his own crime. There is evidence of planning, premeditation and malice in the murders committed by the creature, found by Victor. These violent crimes are punishable under law and therefore the creature has committed 2 counts of first degree murder and one count of second degree murder, for when he killed William it was unplanned killing due to an accident. The creature committed these acts without just cause or legal excuse. The creature may be charged for a crime of passion when it comes to the death of William for it was the sudden anger and heartbreak that caused the creature kill, even though right after the death of William the creature says, “I gazed on my victim, and my heart swelled with exultation and hellish triumph; clapping my hands, I exclaimed, “I too can create desolation; my enemy is not invulnerable; this death will carry despair to him, and a thousand other miseries shall torment and destroy him” (Shelly 144). However, when it comes to the deaths of Elizabeth and Henry, the creature is well beyond the lines of crime of passion. These crimes were not acted immediately upon the rise of passion. The creature is also guilty of threatening in the second degree. Placing another person in fear of imminent personal injury and threatening to commit a crime of violence in order to terrorize another person. “Frankenstein! You belong then to my enemy-to him towards whom I have sworn eternal revenge; you shall be my first victim.” (Shelly 144). The creature also states, “I will keep no terms with my enemies, I am miserable, and they shall share my wretchedness.” (Shelly 103). The creature was ready to fight for want he wanted, at all sacrifice’s. This was not a passion of crime. The creatures was precise one his law-breaking actions. The creature was set out to attaining remuneration on Victor. The creature would black mail and threaten Victor until Victor suffered like he had done. “I will keep no terms with my enemies. I am miserable, and they shall share my wretchedness” (Shelly 103). These are the words of a true monster, a monster that sees no limit or boundaries in order to accomplish his bloody revenge. The creature from Frankenstein is not a monster due to the fact that he was created in a different form then we are, or even that it has many inhumanely characteristic’s. What makes the creature a monster are the horrific actions it performed. The creature has knowingly killed in the name of revenge even though it knows society’s laws on man slaughter and has even agreed in the past that it is morally wrong. The creature from Frankenstein did these dreadful events after been engulfed in hatred due to an absentee father. And many agree that it must be hard not having a father in your life; however, this should not be a valid excuse to take a human life, especially for the fact that he killed innocent hard working people just to get his father’s attention. The creature is no better and no different than victor, It has been argued that the creature was deprived from fatherly love, but how many family members, friends and loved ones did he deprive from the same love when he killed the people who meant most to them? Ladies and gentlemen of the jury it is our jobs to enforce and maintain laws that are so crucial to our society, laws that have clearly have been broken in this case. I ask for you all to think of those innocent souls that were bloodily murdered as part of your own family and deliver the justice needed by putting this monster where he cannot hurt any more people every time he becomes emotionally unstable. Life behind bars.

-

Ok so this is the conclusion we agreed on

“I will keep no terms with my enemies. I am miserable, and they shall share my wretchedness.” These are the words of a true monster, a monster that sees no limit or boundaries in order to accomplish his bloody revenge. The creature from Frankenstein is not a monster due to the fact that he was created in a different form then we are, or even that it has many inhumanely characteristic’s. What makes the creature a monster are the horrific actions it performed. The creature has knowingly killed in the name of revenge even though it knows society’s laws on man slaughter and has even agreed in the past that it is morally wrong. The creature from Frankenstein is a menace to society and to itself, it will continue to bring nothing but pain and sadness as long as we allow it to continue its actions, It is time for this monster to face the law and suffer the consequences for its actions. It is our duty to stop this derailed train before it hurts itself or even worse anyone else, I believe that this monster has caused enough harm to us all so please ladies and gentlemen, let’s do the right thing and put this monster where it belongs. Life behind bars.