User:Gtstricky/sandbox

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Well I guess I will open Pandora's box with yet another RFC on a football issue.

This could all just be my ignorance on the topic but possibly there is a community ignorance and not just me.

Background To start let me point you to this article: Football in the Netherlands. It gives a decent overview of the football structure in the Netherlands. Recently there have been pages showing up in the new pages feed for the level 5 (Hoofdklasse) club teams like VV Eemdijk. They area all unsourced.

Looking at current guidelines for teams we are pointed to WP:ORG. There is also an essay that gives some guidance at WP:NCLUB. Now I don't want to get branded as a deletionist so let me add that I feel these articles hurt the project. They provide no useful information to the point of leaving the reader frustrated. How are these clubs organized? What is the history? Can anyone play? Do they get paid? Who owns them? Most of the pages give the city they play, colors, and a link to their website.

Could they be expanded? Sure... but we still requires sources, independent sources. As far as I can tell we still do not allow completely unsourced articles, even stubs.

So why not a simple AFD? Fear... I would imagine that an AFD listing 50+ teams (found at 2016–17 Hoofdklasse) would result in a verbal flogging like no other.