User:Hamedog/Sandbox

Some Wikipedians have formed a project to better organize information in articles related to Rugby union. This page and its subpages contain their suggestions; it is hoped that this project will help to focus the efforts of other Wikipedians. If you have a passion for rugby union and wish to make Wikipedia the world's foremost reference on rugby union like the rest of our participants then add your name to the list below. Then read the section below labelled How to help. For more information on WikiProjects, please see WikiProjects and WikiProject best practices

The current Collaboration of the fortnight is .

Aim and scope
The aim of the project is to create a pool of consistent and attractive articles that are easy to find and read.

This project shall create and maintain;
 * the Rugby union category and sub-category structures
 * templates, infoboxes and other tools to help wikipedias display and make better use of content
 * articles related to rugby union

Goals
To make Wikipedia the world's foremost reference on rugby union in terms of both quantity and, most of all, quality.


 * Article creation
 * To make finding related articles easier.
 * To raise articles to feature article status.

These perhaps could go on to be sister or child projects. Until there are more members of the rugby union wikiproject, this is not feasible. They may for now be classified as sub projects or unofficial projects. This means they may or may not define their own manual of style and structure for their related articles. If applicable please see related sub project pages.

Parentage
This project is a child of WikiProject Rugby. WikiProject Rugby union adopts the WikiProject Rugby's manual of style as its own.

The manual of style shall determine only structure and style of WP-items.

Participants
If you wish to become a member, simply add yourself to the bottom of the list of names by editing this page.

How to help

 * Create &mdash; The most important thing is information first. If an article has not been written on a topic which has much available information, then write it.
 * Clean up &mdash; Many articles, especially when they are first written, can be messy, incomprehensive and even incorrect. You can help by tidying up such articles with respect to what is correct and the wikiproject's guidelines on formatting articles.
 * Feature status &mdash; Bringing an article to feature status is an advanced job possibly not suited to a novice wikipedian or novice writer. This requires turning a good article into an article of outstanding excellence.

The above also applies to templates, categories and other wiki items that make finding rugby union information easier.

You can find articles that you like to edit by browsing the rugby union category.

Requested articles
See WikiProject Rugby union/Requests

To do
See WikiProject Rugby union/To do


 * We need to move the South African and New Zealand Super 14 teams from (rugby club) to (rugby franchise). They calling them clubs is wrong, they are franchises of their countries rugby boards.-- HamedogTalk|@ 12:20, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

News

 * Rugby union at the Summer Olympics is on peer review. Cvene64 16:48, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Rugby World Cup is now featured.-- HamedogTalk|@ 12:18, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Super 14 champions is also a featured list candidate. Pleae vote Featured list candidates/Super 14 champions-- HamedogTalk|@ 04:47, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Super 12 champions is a featured list candidate. Please vote here.-- HamedogTalk|@ 09:08, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
 * It's now a featured list!  hoopydink  Conas tá tú? 02:16, 21 July 2006 (UTC)


 * I've created the 2006 rugby union handbag controversy, needs somework tho, atm. -- HamedogTalk|@ 06:46, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm working on creating articles for all of the US Super League teams (Washington RFC is the most complete, as the project has just begun)  hoopydink  Conas tá tú? 06:37, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Update I've collected all of the information and I'm slowly adding sections to each team's article. I have a rubric, so the articles will all be formatted the same and have the same sections.  I also hope to model the Rugby Super League article after the Super 14 article.   hoopydink  Conas tá tú? 20:04, 18 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Could people please try and sort out the Southern Spears page, it is a mess, with numerous unsourced statements and possible copyright vios. and pov statements..Cvene64 06:46, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Rugby union in Georgia created. Arguss 16:40, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Created Rugby union in Fiji. Cvene64 12:32, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
 * The new collab is International Rugby Board, really needs work compared to FIFA and ICC. Cvene64 08:39, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Rugby union in Canada created. Really needs expanding. Arguss 10:09, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Rugby union in Russia created (bare-bones stub)  hoopydink  Conas tá tú? 16:01, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
 * 1971 Springbok tour created. Cvene64 19:42, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Rugby union in South Africa created.GordyB 10:06, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Rugby union in New Zealand is nominated at RU COTF, the plan is to have a dual collaboration with NZ COTF. Please vote. Cvene64 09:44, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
 * There is a three-way-tie overe at New Zealand Collaboration of the Fortnight, Rugby union in New Zealand is one of them. If you feel you would contribute to it, now is the time to vote. Cvene64 09:34, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Munster Rugby are mentioned on the main page as of now. Cvene64 16:28, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
 * History of rugby union is the current collaboration! Come and work it to FA status. Cvene64 11:50, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Rugby World Cup hosts needs to be expanded asap. Or it will be merged back into the article. Please help, as I think it can hold its own article. Cvene64 04:59, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Samegoes for Rugby World Cup qualification - needs a lot of help.Cvene64 07:01, 3 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Rugby union in the United States is now a blue link, as you can see, but not a very good one. Most of the sections are blank and needs to be heavily edited.  I'll be working on it, but it's a big article and could use multiple editors.  Hoopydink  04:36, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
 * New COTF - Rugby World Cup - sub-pages need the most help. Cvene64 02:12, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Template:Rugby_Team_infobox applied to Ulster Rugby. Can someone confirm what the away socks and shorts colours are please? --Kwekubo 17:57, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
 * AIB League created, though there is very little there at present.GordyB 15:01, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I have made a fortnightly collabortation which can be found here:Portal:Rugby Union/Collaboration of the fortnight.-- HamedogTalk 02:20, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Hi. I have started a new category of Users who support a national rugby union team. I hope that will be of interest and useful. --Historian 11:58, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Whilst tidying up the Springbok's page I moved a description of the 2004 Tri Nations Series to a new page. I also moved data from the Tri Nations Series to the same page. It still needs some work, perhaps somebody could fill in the missing sections?GordyB 10:47, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Major changes to the history section of Fiji national rugby union team.GordyB 10:38, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
 * For some reason the USA, Fiji, Tonga and Samoa Union pages have an automatic redirect to their respective national team pages. This is very annoying as it prevents the creation of separate articles on their governing bodies. Does anybody know how this can be fixed or why it is happening?GordyB 15:39, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
 * The redirect can be removed but then it leaves a blank article like this. I have done this with Fiji but I think someone will revert the redirect if it stays too long without any content. I don't think we should remove the redirects until with have material to put in its place.GringoInChile 17:16, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
 * It takes no time at all to make a stub.GordyB 21:31, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I've worked out how to do it. Thanks. I'll replace the redirects with decent stubs. I've already done the Fiji Rugby Union.GordyB 22:17, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I started the template Template:National_rugby_team. Feel free to edit it and so on. Forever young 10:30, 27 January 2006 (UTC) - copied from talk page.
 * British and Irish Lions - continues to be a problem due to persistant politicisation by people who do not even like rugby union.GordyB 17:25, 7 January 2006 (UTC) Seems to have died down.GordyB 10:42, 27 January 2006 (UTC). I've contacted an admin who removed the POV tag, there is no reason for this article to have one other than a couple of individuals not liking the concept of the Lions or the fact that the IRFU refer to themselves as a 'home nation'. This may restart the row.GordyB 21:49, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
 * History section added to All Blacks.GordyB 13:24, 24 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Have applied the Template:Rugby_Team_infobox to Leinster Rugby, Munster Rugby and Connacht Rugby. Will add to Ulster when I can.


 * Hello, i know that im the new member, retro_junkies, but why is the powergen cup on the scot_rugby_prem template when it has nothing to do with scottish clubs?
 * Never noticed it before. I've deleted it. I suspect that either the English or Welsh template was used as a model (probably the Welsh one) and somehow it slipped through.GordyB 22:06, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
 * And that's why it's great that we now have a Scotland fan in the project. Welcome User:Retro_junkies! --Stormie 00:14, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much!, please find under the the templates, templates for the scots 2nd and 3rd divisons! -- User:Retro_junkies


 * Is anyone out there interested in Sydney club rugby? Have started pages on NSWRU and its comps as well as Suburban rugby. There are over 50 clubs in 'subbies' alone. Would someone (esp anyone with a wider range of Wiki skills than myself) like to help out or give me some tips. Would love to do a template but don't know how. Much appreciated. Soundabuser 01:50, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
 * It'd be nice to get more detail on the clubs at the Tooheys New Cup level first, although I'd never discourage you from doing articles on subbies clubs if you're willing and able to do so. &mdash;Stormie 12:14, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Have just begun pages on each of the remaining Shute Shield/Tooheys New Cup team, they all need plenty of work but its a start Soundabuser 03:22, 3 May 2006 (UTC)


 * I've started augmenting the Zurich_Premiership page with the final tables but I'm busy at present so have only done two. This data is freely available at various rugby sites (Sporting life, Leicester Tigers) if anyone else has the time. Stuey 26/04/06

General strategy and discussion forums

 * /General
 * /Strategy

Starting Line-up

 * Image:Rugby Union blank line ups.PNG
 * Read the talk page on how to use or ask me questions on my talk page.-- HamedogTalk|@ 11:09, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Infoboxes

 * - A list of rugby competitions played in 2006.


 * - (developing) Used on Super 14. used for now
 * Designed for ERC teams. Also has Team Colours.


 * . For International Teams. Gold variation used for special/tour teams, seen here.


 * For Players.


 * proposed for national rugby teams.

National Sets of Links

 * Australia - and
 * England - - Probably needs renaming.
 * Fiji -
 * France -
 * Ireland -
 * Italy -
 * New Zealand -
 * Saoma -
 * South Africa -
 * Scotland - - Probably needs renaming.
 * Tonga -
 * Wales -

Groupings of Nations

 * National Rugby Unions of the IRB -
 * Overview of rugby union in the first tier nations -
 * Overview of rugby union in the second tier nations -
 * Overview of rugby union in the third tier nations of:
 * Europe -
 * Africa -
 * Asia/Oceania -
 * The America's -
 * Six Nations Championship -

Other Groupings

 * New South Wales Suburban Rugby Union clubs -
 * New South Wales Rugby Union clubs -
 * European club competitions -
 * Celtic League -
 * Super 12/14 -
 * Super 12/14 -

Note: None for Pacific teams (added GordyB 21:49, 7 January 2006 (UTC)), Ireland and Europe as a whole


 * There is one for European club competitions as a whole . It could be expanded to include links to the 6N and national teams in a similar way to SANZAR links.GordyB 17:18, 7 January 2006 (UTC)


 * I might try that over the weekend. How about adding the Celtic League to it aswell?? We really need to Standardise some of the Templates, but I'm still learning wiki-code, I'm more of a Graphics Man. Stabilo boss 17:55, 24 February 2006 (UTC)


 * You really don't need to know wikicode. I think virtually all these templates are cannibalised from each other which is why they have a similar look. If you go to the SANZAR links and edit it, you can copy and paste the code into a word file. Then all you need to do is replace each link with the appropriate European one.GordyB 20:09, 24 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Added template for Sydney suburban rugby clubs Soundabuser 08:01, 26 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Just added a template for the six nations --Bob 00:33, 11 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Added template for Rugby Union in Australia Soundabuser 08:36, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

I have merged the into the, and reformatted the result to be similar to the SANZAR and French templates. I've also moved all the pages using  to use. This makes redundant, so is there any way to delete it? KeithW 12:13, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Template:Eng rugby nat1 has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. Bob 17:23, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Just done the same for Scotland. and are now redundant. They have been merged into, and all the pages using them changed to use. KeithW 19:59, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Template:Scot rugby 2nd has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. KeithW 20:22, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Voted on it. --Bob 21:03, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Template:Scot rugby 3rd has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. KeithW 20:22, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Voted on it. --Bob 21:03, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Links to individual national teams

 * nrut - general link, without flags
 * NB: Using this template for New Zealand will result in a redirect, as their article does not follow the standard of "Foo national rugby union team", but is instead at their historic name of All Blacks.
 * nrutf and nrutf2 - general, with flag to the left and to the right of the country name, respectively
 * Put an -rt before the template name to see the flag on the right hand side for use in the rugbybox templates. ie. -

Super 14 team links

 * - Blues
 * - Brumbies
 * - Cats
 * - Cheetahs
 * - Crusaders
 * - Force
 * - Highlanders
 * - Hurricanes
 * - Reds
 * - Sharks
 * - Stormers
 * - Sharks
 * - Stormers


 * - Works with Reverse in front, so it can be used in rugbybox.

Other

 * RugbyTableStart

Match/player statistics

 * RugbyData.com - Provides statistics and records. Can be used to complete data tables such as the international rugby team infobox.
 * Player profiles from 6 nations - Short profiles on every 6N squad player, can be the basis of a stub
 * IRFU player profiles - New, previously the IRFU gave only brief details
 * WRU player profiles - Good profiles
 * RFU player profiles - Need heavy editing as the RFU don't write their profiles in chronological order
 * No SRU equivalent as yet.
 * All Blacks A-Z - stats and brief bios for all All Blacks, past and present. We also have a template (Template:All Blacks) for producing links to player pages there.
 * Springboks Profiles - database, searchable by full or partial surname, of profiles for many past and all present Springboks, including stats and brief bios. We also have a template (Template:Springboks) for producing links to player pages there.
 * Convictcreations.com - A very good read and very up-to-date. Covers all major sports in Australia e.g. Aussie rules, league, union, soccer and cricket. Somewhat biased towards Aussie rules but masses of material.GordyB 22:09, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Historic

 * WARNING:Do not steal other people's work. If you use their work, be sure to reference it properly!
 * Rugbyfootballhistory
 * Rugby Readers Review

Naming Conventions
Rugby union shall be written in lower case, such as rugby union, except when starting a sentence, such as in this one.

See the Rugby union discussion page for more information.

Also see wikipedia naming conventions, for naming articles.


 * Can I add a plea here not to use 'rugby' to mean 'rugby union'. I know that in many countries rugby=rugby union and if league exists then it is called 'league' and almost never refered to as 'rugby'. However this is not universal and in some parts of the world e.g. much of Yorkshire, Lancashire amd Cumbria rugby almost always means 'rugby league'. I have tried to go through both sets of articles 'correcting' this usage. This is very much a bone of contention among English league fans who see it as marginalising rugby league. I can see only a couple of 'correct' usages of 'rugby' for the 15 man code 1) when required to do so by the title of the article - the RWC is the Rugby World Cup; it would be silly to alter this to RUWC 2) talking about 'champagne rugby union' or 'counter-attacking rugby union' is odd.GordyB 17:18, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

Summarise and link
Particularly when writing history of rugby union, be careful not to duplicate information. The standard way to deal with possibly duplicate information is to keep one major source of that information and wherever else it is useful, summarise and link to it, in the following manner.


 * 1) Place the link under the heading of the section you are writing and before any text.
 * 2) Use, like this  . It will appear like this:
 * 3) If necessary or relevant, also link to a specific section in the article

You can see an example here.

However, it may be that yours is a complicated subject and for the reader to get the whole picture with as little reading as possible, it is recommended you write light paragraphs that link to the relevant articles in the text.

Referencing
When adding information/statistics, particularly regarding popularity, be sure to add a reference, by adding this after it (using Wikipedia as an example:


 * Not be sure to change all the names, publishers, titles, urls, and access dates to your specific reference.

Then, put a references section at the bottom of the page, but not below the external links. Like this:

Glossary
I find my self starting to use special terms to refer to things on wikipedia. If you do too, add them here so you can use them in discourse. This may facilitate or hamper communication. I guess we'll find out.

WP-item
 * This term has be coined as a catch-all phrase for 'things' defineable through wikipedia such as articles, templates, categories, infoboxes etc. Pronounced wikipedia item or wiki item?

Below is a complete list of all tests the All Blacks have played, in chronological order.

The All Blacks score is listed first.