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Some of the sources that I am looking for, I want to make sure that I am not reusing the same information that is already presented in the Page. I want to be able to use the other sources but I am also trying to find other of course. Starting to look at Jstor for example. The sections in this Wiki page are done quite well, which is making it a little difficult to either find new information to add to the article. I was looking at the overview section of the article, and the wording was off to me. It sounded more like an essay that was being written than an informative article. My first idea for this article is going to be making small edits to have the article flow a little better. I was thinking about moving some of the information and ideas that the pervious author wrote about. The ideas, sources and context are all good, for this article I think it is going to be about adding in some more information, and moving and re-wording the information and ideas that are already established in the article.

Shedden suggestions: Start getting more specific about the changes you want to make. I really want to see the exact locations where you are going to make changes.

https://www.jstor.org/stable/pdf/4415117.pdf?ab_segments=0%252Ftbsub-1%252Frelevance_config_with_defaults&refreqid=excelsior%3Accdb1ef126c923261f6e22a8af26d823

https://www.jstor.org/stable/41241651?Search=yes&resultItemClick=true&searchText=Islam&searchText=and&searchText=science&searchUri=%2Faction%2FdoBasicSearch%3FQuery%3DIslam%2Band%2Bscience&ab_segments=0%2Ftbsub-1%2Frelevance_config_with_defaults&refreqid=search%3A3659e4b3cdeffd4bcf541a9f8d1923ad&seq=1#metadata_info_tab_contents\

The Islamic Golden Age: In its most basic form is the period of Islamic history that economic, cultural and scientific ideas and flourished in the Islamic world. From looking at the Article and other examples of sources, I think that it would be a good idea to take a look at specific cities and how science has either changed culture, or the way that science is presented in that said city. The article mentions the House of Wisdom and its importance for the Islamic world when it comes to science.

I have chosen a couple major cities of the Islamic world, that I want to take a look at, those including Mecca, Baghdad, Cairo and Istanbul. These cities are in different geographical parts of the Islamic creating a wide range of thoughts that might be different from city to city. The influence that Europe had on the science and technology I think is also an important factor that should be at least mentioned in the article. https://www.jstor.org/stable/23352219?Search=yes&resultItemClick=true&searchText=Baghdad&searchText=and&searchText=science&searchUri=%2Faction%2FdoBasicSearch%3FQuery%3DBaghdad%2Band%2Bscience%2B%26amp%3Bgroup%3Dnone%26amp%3Bwc%3Don%26amp%3Bacc%3Don%26amp%3Bfc%3Doff&ab_segments=0%2Ftbsub-1%2Frelevance_config_with_defaults&refreqid=search%3Aff837ced6b8dc0413a537fa59da6b046&seq=1#metadata_info_tab_contents

https://www.scq.ubc.ca/is-there-such-a-thing-as-islamic-science-the-influence-of-islam-on-the-world-of-science/

Taking a look at the article itself: I have noticed throughout reading the article that there are a lot of sentence fragments, and a lot of broad claims that do not have context to truly back them up. Looking at the first paragraph to mostly the study of nature and finding out the truth throughout the Quran instead of the actually amount of science. Also in the first paragraph a quote takes up more space than it should. Other concerns of mine are mostly about the wording in which the writer has written, with not a whole lot of direction or flow, but instead just each sentence is a different fact. I also really want to make sure that the article does not talk too much about the Quran and what it says about science, because science and be apart of Islamic society without the reading of the Quran to influence them. I just think that sometimes the text goes a little too much into the example with the Quran and what is says, instead of how from history and present views on science are established in the Islamic community. From looking at the article as a whole I think that the history section is going to need the most work. I really want to narrow my research and I think that the history section will have the best bet into creating a more organized section to help set up the rest of the article.

'''Start of the page: Muslim scholars have developed a spectrum of viewpoints on science within the context of Islam.[1] The Quran and Islam allows for much interpretation when it comes to science. In fact there is no true word for science in Arabic, and came simply mean different forms of knowledge[2]. The study of science can mean a large amount of ideas, from nature, knowledge of nature (''ilm al-hisab), wisdom or even philosophy. (This is what I have so far as the beginning of the page).'

The overview section of the page: I think that the author goes a little too much into what the Quran says, instead of looking how people who believe in islam view science. Science is used in the Islam to confirm the Quran, instead of the other way around in other religions.

Johnny Peer Review: ''I think these sources are actually pretty solid considering the niche-nature of the topic you've selected. I think a few problems you could consider going forward are the authors/sources of the sources you've selected, meaning - there are some contemporary interests that would like to downplay the compatibility of science and Islam, and sometimes ignore the larger role it played in classical North Africa/Middle East. I noticed on the wikipedia page that there didn't really seem to be a conclusion to story of Islam and Science, perhaps some of your sources speak a bit about how science tacitly or explicitly finds itself a home in contemporary Islamic societies. Although you haven't actually done this and I didn't really anticipate you would, I would just remind you of the mosaic that is the Islamic world - the viability of science may have more to do with the structure and vitality of the nation rather than the religion. Iran is Islamic and has a pretty robust scientific culture while a country such as Libya may not have as much to show in terms of scientific achievement. Niche topics like this can be pretty daunting because there is simultaneously so much you could do, with very little resources and time. I would even perhaps see if you could find an online translated copy of the Quran, or even just passages that illuminate the role of science as prescribed by doctrine. I think expanding your resources a bit more would help, although they do seem strong. There is definitely a connection between Islam and science evidenced by the flourishing of science during the Islamic Golden Age its just a matter of fleshing out that connection a bit more.''