User:Hersfold/adopt/Eoag

subpage of your user page (such as User:Eoag/Watchlist) and list them there, or simply stick them on your main user page like a lot of other editors do. I'll show you a bunch of ways to organize things like that, and you'll also find I'm a huge fan of subpages (since I have about a zillion). And for 2&3), as I said, that's fine. Talk to you tomorrow, and welcome to Wikipedia. :-) Hers fold  (t/a/c) 06:33, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

. I've set that page up for us to coordinate the program

Hers fold  (t/a/c) 06:10, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

the adoption center if you haven't already. Hers fold  (t/a/c) 23:51, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Update
Hey, I've responded to your questions, as well as posted the lesson on Wikimarkup, since it's somewhat relevant to your reference work. User:Hersfold/Adopt/Eoag Hers fold  (t/a/c) 20:31, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

...and hopefully have fixed whatever remnants of that editing problem you had, I'd like to get started on the lessons again. I'll probably start you off with basic vandalism patrols, since that's generally a good starting point. If you'd like to do another of the optional lessons first, though, let me know. Hope to hear from you soon, and that everything's going well. Hers fold  (t/a/c) 12:14, 25 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Hey, I noticed the edit you made to the lesson earlier - to be honest, I hadn't even thought of doing it that way, although having the link show bold all the time is definitely a good thing! You'll see I made a slight change to what you did, to make sure it appears in bold everywhere instead of just your adoption page, but well done!

And you a comp-sci and all, static links are not your friend :>. I was going to ask you how to make such a link


 * I've also made a slight change to your pages for reference - the links as they're showing now still go to the same places, but they're no longer external links. This is done by using an "interwiki" link: each MediaWiki site, and different languages of that site, is identified by a short code that can be added to the beginning of a link, like so: m:Help:Editing. The m: tells the link to go to Meta-Wiki. Like I said, this works for any MediaWiki site, including those not operated by the Wikimedia Foundation: just outside of WMF sites, the codes usually get a little longer. Jean Luc Picard, for example, will go to the Star Trek Wikia site. This also works for languages, but you often have to add a colon in front of them to make them act as links - otherwise the software will think you're trying to indicate that the page you're editing can also be found in another language at that title. ja:メインページ will go to the Japanese Wikipedia's main page, but without the colon in front, you'd see a "In other languages" bar to the left here... probably not what you intended.

have an assignment on this one!). Hers fold  (t/a/c) 22:38, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

I use IE on a public computer (i.e- no access to install, touch, or breath on anything :Hers fold  (t/a/c) 02:08, 4 May 2008 (UTC)


 * non-sequitor - what is the url syntax for going directly to a specific sub-heading on a wiki-page? --


 * You can add #Section to the end of the URL. So, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Hersfold/Adopt#Questions will take you directly to the "Questions" header on that page. This works in internal links too: User:Hersfold/Adopt. <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:blue">Hers <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:gold">fold  (t/a/c) 21:07, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

New Questions

 * Thank you. Also Watchlist: There can't be any good reason that the watchlist is so basic. It is absurd. There should be the ability to sort into a treed format. Hell, hotmail can do this, and I'm not even suggesting that it be an automatic sort option. The hierharchy(sp?) can't be exessively memory intensive so wtd?Eoag (talk) 21:34, 4 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Also, I def. want to start archiving my talk pages (two months and things are getting out of hand and things I want to keep I am accidentally deleting :<) I ran across this Help:Archiving_a_talk_page do you have any comments to make on bot selection?

I created a new subpage for things that a new editor might want. I've decided that the project I really want to run is a "Welcome package for New Editors" that, once completed, will automatically put a sub page on the users page when they sign up that will include all the things that I wish I (and others) had availible at the beginning in a format that is usefully for reference, welcoming, and interesting (to get more editors), and then drop them there. The page User:Eoag/new will hopefully become a to do list for the project. Suggestions, help making the sub-page more presentable/user friendly, etc. all good. This will hopefully help with the backlog for adopters that I imagine will become untenable at sometime in the future. Something like a tiered system of adoption for the addicts(you, me, etc :] ), a mentoring system with welcome package for regular users that would allow mentors to have several alcolites at once, and the welcome package for the once-in-a-whiles, determined by user request could make this system both more accesible and more affective at the same time. This is definitely going to borrow heavily from your adoption program. Two things I really want are a list of every question asked by your (or ideally every) adoptee for the compilation of treed FAQ (an index for the welcome page) and an overview of your program. Later I would imagine that adopters would be the kind a people who would like to help so perhaps (if it is appropriate manners in wiki) the adopters list could be asked if they would like to join). Darn, two new things to add to the list from this paragraph aloneEoag (talk) 23:17, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

How many adoptees are there? Do adopters regularily archive? Does each individual adopter creat their own system ad hoc? Oh no, as an idea gains focus it also gains momentum,.. until one makes a wrong turn into a brick wall.Eoag (talk) 23:22, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Which userbox gives the time you've been wikipedian? which leads to the inevitable: is there a list of userboxes somewhere?Eoag (talk) 23:25, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

I will try and get to the lesson tonight, I am not ignoring it, it is actually something I am looking forward to because it's the kinda thing I like doing. This brings up a point that is alluded to above. The adoption process that you have outlined is somewhat like getting a wiki-degree. An excellent idea and one I am interested in, but way to much for somebody who just wants to be able to edit the text of articles they are interested in. I must say I think I would really like to start looking into what it would take to get this project started. The adoption backlog is 53 and I am sure many who had questions didn't sign up (potential mentorees), so now would seem to be the time to at least think about starting something. Asking new adoptees for their suggestions and comments would also make them feel more involved (which they would be) and hopefully keep them progressing. People who feel they are helping build something tend to help build that much harder.Eoag (talk) 23:39, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Also, can I redirect from another wiki (i.e. - wikiquote) and/or are global accounts still only for admin? (jelous if so ;< ) see:. I'm of course talking about automatic redirect

And finally for today: At my current rate I will have joined the anti-vandalism project before I get to the lesson. The massive addition to my watchlist from today mostly comes from the most vandalized pages page. I prob will check five pages or so every time I'm online but I now need to move the damn things somewhere more organized. see watchlist agravation above. Anyway, could you give me rollback rights. or should I make an official request.

08-05-05
In this new format answers should still be added after questions, this section will be for tomorrow. I'm sure you new that.