User:Historiographer/archive2

err....
안녕하세요. You acually haven't changed your name, as in History you are listed as Korea history. Ask at WP:CHU o change your name. Kfc 1864  talk  my edits 05:54, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

안녕하십니까.
기자조선 말입니다. 국내에서는 인정하지 않습니다 심지어는 교과서에서도 삭제된 내용이니까요... 하지만 한국위키를 제외하고 다른 곳에선 마치 정설인 양 소개 되고있는데, 정설인 양 나오는 부분을 없애고 (또는 한국학계가 왜 기자와 그 왕국을 부인 하는지에 대한 것들을 추가) List of monarchs of Korea에 나오는 기자조선과 정설이 아닌 부분은 삭제하고 대신 List of legendary monarchs of Korea로 완전 이동 시키는 것에 대해 어떻게 생각하십니까?


 * 기자조선 쪽은, List of legendary monarchs of Korea 로 옮기는게 좋을것 같습니다. 문서가 너무 짧아서 삭제하자는 반항이 있을수는 있지만. 일단 해두고 봅시다.


 * (조선후기역사) [탕평정치] 삭제를 왜 했는지, 화납니다. 하튼, 지나간 일이니까.일단 님이 원하시는것을 복구한후, 되도록이면 다 복구하도록 하겠습니다.


 * 연개소문 번역은 반 끝내고 멈친 상태입니다. 원하시면 최대한 빨리 완성해 드리겠습니다.


 * KHT 이 바뀌서 아깝내요. 제가 수를 써봐서, 가로 형식으로 바뀌 보겠습니다.


 * 예, 다른언어 소스 링크 당연히 할수 있는것 입니다. 그냥 어떤 언어인지만 표시만 해두시면 됩니다. 예. www.xxxxxx.com (ko).


 * 예, 지도에 도움필요하시면 저도 돕겠습니다. 그리고 저 요즘 좀 시간이 부족해서 (고등학교 다른 학교로 신청할라고요), 위키백과에 많은 투자 못하지만, 변역등은 해드로고 퀴크 편집은 할수있습니다. 그 학교 일단 들어가면 많이 도와줄수 있을겁니다. 하튼, 최근에 별로 한 일이 없어서 죄송합니다. 일단 님이 말하신것들 혼자 해보시고, 뒤에 제가 다 편집하겠습니다. 그리고 가끔 영어위키백과만 말고 다른 언어 위키백과에도 활동해보세요. 꼭 그나라 언어를 알아야 될필요는 없습니다. 그럼, 이상. Amphitere 14:23, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Romanization and deletion of content
Hello. You deleted contents of Jizi and Wei Man without discussion. Such a behavior is considered vandalism and I have no choice but to revert your edits. I hope your attitude will be corrected. --Nanshu 23:24, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

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I saw your contributions to some Korean pages, and I would like to suggest that you put proper references for them... your information does not seem untrue, but as per wiki policy, it would be preferable... I hate having to dig for references also, but we have no choice... Odst 04:19, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

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Blocked
I have blocked you for a violation of the Three-reverts rule on South Korea. Block duration is 24h. Fut.Perf. ☼ 13:43, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Konnichiwa
안녕하십니까, 오랫만에 다시 인사드립니다. 저 기억나십니까, 예전에 엠피테르 였는데. 요즘 학교때문에 위키백과에서 아무것도 한 일이 없네요. 하지만 번역은 거의 끝났으니 조금만 더 기다려 주십시오. 그럼 앞으로 다시 함께 한국의 역사를 위해 일합시다. Veritasian (talk) 18:42, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Korean Kingdoms Maps
Hi Historiographer, if you see errors in the Korean borders on any of my maps, please do send me information to help correct them! The best way is to copy the existing map, use an image editing program on your computer (like PhotoShop or MS Paint) to draw the correct borders, then email them to me at talessman@yis.us (or just upload the correction and add it to the map's talk page). I also need you to include your source information so I can back up any corrections. I'll happily add your name to the list of contributers and sources of each of the maps when we're done with the corrections. Thank you in advance, Thomas Lessman (talk) 19:20, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

사진.
저도 잘 모르겠지만 아마 그리해도 될것 같습니다. 그리고 그 문서의 문장 (and etc.)는 제가 직접 한번 편집해보겠습니다. Veritasian (talk) 18:26, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

예, 그럼 보내세요. 제가 편집하고 그 님께 보내겠습니다. 그리고, 새해복많이받으세요! ^^ Veritasian (talk) 17:48, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

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독도

 * 저, 질문하나 있습니다. 왜 독도 문서가 이리 잛아졌습니까? 오랫만에 갔는데 이렇게 바뀌진게 믿겨지지가 않습니다.Veritasian (talk) 15:07, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Proto-3 Kingdoms map
Hi Historiographer, on "History of Korea", you removed the map of Asia in 200 AD. Why? Would the be more accurate for the proto-3 Kingdoms period? Thomas Lessman (talk) 02:46, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi Historiographer, I responded on my talk page, in line with your comments. If you believe the borders are inaccurate for 200 AD, please send me info to correct. You previously sent me info for a later date (which I used in the maps for that era, thank you.) Respectfully, Thomas Lessman (talk) 03:52, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Korean history template
Hi Historiographer!

I am sorry to undo your hard work, but I really didn't think the new design worked as an easy-to-use sidebar for Korean history articles. It would be very nice to have a table like that in the Korean history article, or maybe even a separate page. Then you can be more accurate in time scale and add more information. I hope you don't mind. Chuniac (talk) 08:57, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Korean name featured article review
Hi again! The article Korean name is undergoing a Featured Article Review right now. As far as I can tell, it's the only Korea-related Featured Article, and I doubt it can survive the way it is now. I noticed you worked on this article before, so I hope you can help now, and maybe continue on to make one or two more Korea-related Featured Articles eventually. Maybe you can contact others who may be interested, since it's not getting much attention right now. Thanks. Chuniac (talk) 18:31, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar

 * Thanks!!! Historiographer (talk) 23:39, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Ch'oe Pu to Choe Bu
Hi. I appreciate your help with this article and providing the Hangul and Hanja for it, but I hope you are aware that by changing the title of the article while it is still undergoing the Featured Article Candidate process, you literally just $%!@ed everything up. Now the link to the FAC page on the talk page is red, meaning that there is no FAC page in existence for "Choe Bu", although there still is one for "Ch'oe Pu" floating somewhere out there in Wikiland. Please fix this, or I'm sorry, but I'll have to revert your edit. I hope you understand.-- Pericles of Athens  Talk 17:14, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
 * In the meantime, I left a note on the "Ch'oe Pu" section of Featured article candidates in order to alert administrators that there has been a page move. Hopefully they will sort things out and the page can still be called "Choe Bu".-- Pericles of Athens  Talk 17:33, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
 * By the way, I'm not too knowledgeable about Romanization of Korean spelling, but what is the name for the Korean version of Wade-Giles? I say this because changing "Pu" to "Bu" is the same in Chinese for shifting Wade-Giles to Pinyin formats of spelling.-- Pericles of Athens  Talk 17:46, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Nevermind
The problem with the FAC link has been solved. Thanks once again for adding the Hangul and Hanja to his article.-- Pericles of Athens  Talk 21:03, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Favor
Hi, Historiographer, we have not met yet before, but I've acknowledged you for your diligent activities around Korean related articles, especially history materials just like your ID. I'm just linking the article of Tongnip Sinmun and shock to know that there is no article on 박영호, 개화파, 임오군란, 김홍집. I'm not that familiar with articles regarding Korean history in 19th and 20th century, so if you have time, can you make any of these articles? Because they're all important subject and editors who are interested in Korean history are limited here, I come to ask you this favor. Thanks..--Appletrees (talk) 01:13, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 제가 위에 쓴 말들은 저의 부탁이였으니, 그냥 "NO"라고 한마디만 하셔도 될 텐데....무시하시니 좀 그렇네요. 그렇지만 다른 분들(위에 한국프로젝트에 FA를 가져다 준 유명한 편집자인데..)에게도 "절대로" 대답하지 않으신 듯하니, 그냥 님의 스타일이라고 생각하고 갑니다.--Appletrees (talk) 06:02, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 초면에 제가 실례를 범했다면 죄송합니다. 그냥 대답이 없으시길래 관심분야가 아니거나, 원래 방문자에게 답을 안하시나 보다 했습니다. 고등학생이시라니....무척 바쁘시겠습니다. 저도 영어작문이 그리 좋지 않고, 대부분 글을 쓰는 것이 음식이나 예술쪽이라 역사 쪽은 또 영어로 글을 쓸 때 쓰는 용어나 스타일이 다르더군요. 최근에는 지리나 건물, 관광지쪽도 있어야할 문서가 없어서 (동대문시장, 서울시청사, 서울시청 문서도 없었더군요) 토막글을 남발하고 있지만, 혼자서 하긴 벅차네요. 역사쪽은 그쪽 방면에 오랫동안 편집하신 분이 쓰는 편이 나을 듯 싶어서 부탁드렸구요. 게다가 제가 타국과도 과련된 역사쪽 문서나 좀 민감한 문서를 쓰면 아랫동네아해들,특히 버선이나 아논들이 제게로 달려드는 경향이 있어서, 다른분이 쓰면 그런 일이 덜하 듯 싶구요. 혹시 나중에라도 시간이 되시면 짧막한 토막글이라고 "개화파" (gaehwapa)와 아과파천, 임오군란 부터 만들어주시면 정말 감사하겠습니다. 만약 문법이나 어색한 문장은 저도 할 수 있는 범위안에서 노력해보겠습니다. 일단 답변주셔서 감사합니다.--Appletrees (talk) 12:01, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

qing dynasty
i see you are making false claims on how jin and qing are korean, if they are korean, why did qing attacks korea, and force korean king to erect a humiliating stelae to honor him..... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.160.241.53 (talk) 06:10, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
 * What are you talking about? I don´t claim such a thing.--Historiographer (talk) 13:10, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
 * FYI, the vandal was blocked for his personal/racist attacks and incivility/ vandalism.--Appletrees (talk) 13:14, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

RE:
음.. 네들어가봤는데, 어처구니없게 구성되있더군요. 거의 여기저기 따다 붙인수준에 그 문서를 작성한자의 기여목록을보면 딱그림이 나오지요그런데 제가 근대역사나 정치쪽으로는 영문외한이라할 수 있을지 모르겠습니다.님께서는 메일설정을 안하셨네요. 혹시 설정한 후에 제게 메일보낼 생각은 없으신지요--Caspian blue (talk) 16:33, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 시간이 걸릴 듯 하지만, 협력해주신다니 감사할 따름입니다.--Historiographer (talk) 18:36, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

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Islam is not the fastest growing religion in South Korea
Hi!

I need some problems with Opticals about Islam is not the fastest religion in South Korea. He always persist in his Arab Islamic source, here is the detail. Please tell your opinions about this case. Thank you so much. Angelo De La Paz (talk) 03:43, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Undo
Do you have reference to support your Undo? Negative view is not the reason to Undo. If the statement is on facts and have reference to support, the statement should be accepted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tfccheng (talk • contribs) 13:46, 10 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Sorry to butt in, but I guess he mistakenly said "negative point of view" with "neutral point of view". Your insertion is not only POV-ish but also far from neutral point of view as well as violation on WP:UNDUE. No such excessive description on the lead in PRC and ROC; In the latter, I can't even find any mention of Taiwan under Japanese rule and Taiwanese unstable political status along with the culture heavily influenced by Japan. Besides, why does not the article of PRC have the famous cultural suppression, especially on media and communism? The article intends to introduce general information to summarize every relevant articles. If he did not revert you, I would have done so. --Caspian blue (talk) 14:07, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi
Hey, do you have an account at Korean wikipedia? If you have can you tell me? Thanks. --Caspian blue (talk) 15:23, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Um... for instance, how about it?--Historiographer (talk) 22:47, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Regarding the recent contributions to "Liancourt Rocks"
Hi, Historiographer, I noticed you added a wealth of historical material in the article on "Liancourt Rocks". While I admire the effort you put in, and admit that certain parts of it are quite true or at least deserving of serious attention, I am not quite sure if the majority should be included as the main text of the article. Quantitywise, the article length jumped from ca. 25 k to ca. 80 k just overnight, a threefold increase mostly from your input. That comes as a rather mild shock to one who has poured much care into every single word and addition making sure any addition would withstand the test of time. Some of the words you added are not properly suppported such as the following.

Quote "The Three Kingdoms period // In 1145, Samguk Sagi (Chronicles of Three Kingdoms) recorded that the state of Usan (Usan-guk), an island kingdom located on Ulleung-do, was conquered and "re-integrated" into Silla."

Comment on relevance : How is the history-geography of Ulleung Is. relevant to that of Liancourt Rocks? The assumption needs to be stated explicitly no matter how plausible or intutive it might seem as there will be others from a neutral POV who do not readily subscribe to that view. For instance, your assumption could partially have been based on the archaeological evidence of whalers depicted on petroglyphs in Bangudae, Ulju, (Bangudae Petroglyphs 울산 대곡리 반구대 암각화) that could suggest either Ulleung Is. and Liancourt Rocks had been within easy reach of the "Proto-Sillan" whalers of the late-neolithic to early bronze-age dwellers of present-day Ulsan, Sounth Gyeongsang Province, but the actual analysis and interpretation of the archeological evidence has yet to be conducted and published in order to have any historical significance. In other words, the jump from physical geography to human geography, and that from archaeology-anthropology to history, do not come without labour in the form of a well-conducted, well-documented, critical study that shows the degree of certainty of the idea you wish to employ if indeed that were your intention.

Comment on historiographical accuracy : I am not certain at all as to what you might have meant by "island kingdom located on Ulleung-do" being "'re-integrated' into Silla." Had the island kingdom ever been part of Silla before the conquest of 512 CE? I am not aware of any study claiming that. Are you assuming the Silla-style pottery and other archeological finds unearthed on Ulleung Island dated to the 4th century is evidence that

(1) Silla had control over Ulleung Island before 512, that

(2) Ulleung Island had been a Silla colony, that

(3) colonialists on Ulleung Island of Silla origin had revolted some time before the 512 conquest, and that

(4) Silla had simply reclaimed its former colony in 512?

While I admit the possibility all of these being historical truths, three requirements must be met before you can make that claim.

A. hypothesis : an historian has proposed the possibilities of (1) through (4)

B. evidence : an historian has presented further evidence and reasoning to back up the claim of the hypothesis, which now become a "theory" for peer review

C. reference : you need to include at least the essence of the "theory" and also attribute the theory with the study in which it was published

In the absence of A, B, or C, we need to stay conservative; otherwise it becomes your Original Research that needs to be avoided as article material. (interesting theory by the way if one existed)

Another thing I've noticed is that an administrator considers your addition as a revert to last year's article. Although I am not certain if that is the case as I was not here when that happened, (s)he also announced that your additions will be undone. May I suggest you undo your recent additions and add a small quantity of material at a time so that other editors can have a chance to discuss and participate in improving the article as a whole? It looks highly likely that your additions will be axed anyway; it would be far better to police oneself than being censored by an organisational authority. Please take the necessary measures without delay. Hope to see your contributions in a more constructive light. Lex (talk) 02:12, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

edit: In view of the fact that an article on An, Yong Bok, in English does not exist, I have taken the liberty of creating a new article with the material that you supplied. My main reason was that there are simply too many details than would be deemed appropriate for the average viewer. The subsection of "The An, Yong Bok, Incident" is in serious need of a compressing down to the essence, leaving only a link to the minute details and whole exceprpts from original documents. I have not changed any text about An, Yong Bok, here or in the new article excluding formatting, linking, and romanisation matters. Lex (talk) 03:42, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Just stop
Just don't do it. Don't try to bring this article back to the old stage of last year. That article was stubbed back by administrative consensus, for very good reasons. Disruptive activities like this will not be tolerated on this article. Fut.Perf. ☼ 06:44, 24 July 2008 (UTC)