User:Hurricane Devon/Archive1


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Happy Wiki-ing!

-- Sango  123  23:56, August 26, 2005 (UTC)

P.S. Feel free to leave a message on my talk page if you need help with anything or simply wish to say hello. :)

Solar system
I saw you moved the article to Solar System and change all the capitalization as well. For major changes like this, it's best to bring it up on the talk page first. In this case, Wikipedia style is to capitalize only the first word of article titles and section headings, unless subsequent words are proper nouns; see Naming conventions and Manual of Style for more information. &mdash; Knowledge Seeker &#2470; 16:15, August 27, 2005 (UTC)

Page moves
Aloha. I want to echo the comments made by Knowledge Seeker. Please bring major page moves up on the talk page. I see you've moved Milky Way twice in two days. --Viriditas | Talk 09:29, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

Image:Homo ergaster.jpg
Hi. I see you uploaded Image:Homo ergaster.jpg and noted that it is from http://www.ub.es/dpep/antropo.jpg. Could you please add some information about why you believe Wikipedia is allowed to use this image? You might find it helpful to use one of the templates at Image copyright tags. Thanks, Bovlb 07:39:53, 2005-09-01 (UTC)

Page moves
I've reverted your page moves, in future please discuss them first. --fvw *  07:55, September 1, 2005 (UTC)

Image:NGC_4725.jpg
Also Image:Milky_Way_2005.jpg and Image:Kirby_Vacuum_G5.jpg. Bovlb 08:09:30, 2005-09-02 (UTC)

Image:Dwingeloo 1.jpg
Also: Cheers, Bovlb 08:21:07, 2005-09-02 (UTC)
 * Image:NGC 1300.jpg
 * Image:HD 69830 Asteroid Belt.jpg
 * Image:NGC 1365.jpg
 * Image:Shoreham Nuclear.jpg
 * Image:LIPA.gif
 * Image:Iota Horologii b.jpg
 * Image:NGC 4725 B.jpg
 * Image:Maffei 1.jpg
 * Image:Maffei 2.jpg
 * Image:Dwingeloo Galaxies.jpg
 * Image:Homo ergaster.jpg
 * Image:Homo sapiens idaltu.gif
 * Image:Homo sapiens idaltu Scull.jpg


 * I replaced Image:NGC 1365.jpg with a free Hubble image, so it's OK now. The original one was from European Southern Observatory, which don't give its images to public domain. Somebody had replaced &copy; marking with 	 template!--Jyril 17:49, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

NASA images
If you tag images taken from the NASA website with NASA, they won't get deleted. I don't know why this guy is hassling you about the ones which are obviously NASA in origin. --Fastfission 21:55, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

Done
I put some info in my images. If there not good info, please tell me. I also moved some titles so the tell more. Great Barred Spiral Galaxy is the name of NGC 1365, thats why I changed it. Dwingeloo 1, 2, & Milky Way should have Galaxy at the end so to tell it's a Galaxy. And the Maffei Galaxies arn't numbered as roman numerals. &mdash;  Hurricane Dev  o  n  @ unknown

Explain

 * Hi. I think I may have failed to explain myself very clearly last night, so I'll try again.  Please bear with me.  When people take photographs or draw pictures they automatically own the copright, and that means that other people can't take those images and use them in, for example, Wikipedia.  There are, in general, three cases when we can use images from other people:
 * When the author has allowed us to do so, usually by releasing the image into the public domain. See Copyright FAQ for a discussion of which licences are appropriate.  NASA images may be an example of this because the US goverment releases all its work into the public domain.  Another case would be a Wikipedia editor who takes photographs and contributes them under the GFDL.
 * When the fair use doctrine permits. This is very narrow, but might apply to Image:LIPA.gif.  See Fair use for more guidance.
 * When the creation of the image is old enough that the copyright has expired. The conditions for this are complex, but we're talking about 75–90 years.
 * The upshot of all this is that when you contribute an image to Wikipedia that you did not create yourself, I'm afraid that it's your responsibility to explain why Wikipedia is permitted to use that image. This protects us (and any resuers of Wikipedia content) if there is any later dispute.  You can most easily do this by adding one of the templates listed at Image copyright tags.  For NASA images, this would be PD-USGov-NASA to make a permission claim, as I believe Fastfission has already added for you.  For Image:LIPA.gif, you would likely use Logo to make a fair use claim.  For the other images, I'm afraid that I can't see the basis for a valid claim, and I'd really like you to explain why you believe Wikipedia is allowed to use these images.
 * Cheers, Bovlb 06:22:06, 2005-09-03 (UTC)

Hi again. I have unlisted and removed the tags from Image:NGC_4725.jpg, Image:Milky_Way_2005.jpg, and Image:LIPA.gif as they are all now properly tagged. Contrary to my previous note, I see that Fastfission only tagged two NASA images, and there might be others that fall into that category. Thanks for working with us to get this sorted out. Bovlb 19:21:19, 2005-09-03 (UTC)

moving Earth
I just reverted your move of the article Earth. Please explain your action. Such a move of a major page needs to be fully discussed and a consensus reached. Vsmith 01:00, 4 September 2005 (UTC)


 * Ditto for moving Mars. Dragons flight 01:28, September 4, 2005 (UTC)


 * And, per Naming conventions (plurals) pages are almost always at the singular version of a noun, so I am reverting all your pluralizing of galaxy names. Dragons flight 01:34, September 4, 2005 (UTC)

Page moves
Hello, Battery. I like the enthusiasm with which you have approached Wikipedia. We can use editors with your energy. But you must also realize that there are some well-established ways we do things around here. I understand you can't be familiar with all the rules to begin with, but when people drop you a kind note and point you to the relevant information, please don't continue doing the same sorts of things. You really should take a look at Naming conventions and its subpages before moving any more articles. I understand that you think the article would be better at its new name, but please realize that a lot of people must have thought it was better at its current name; that's why it's there. In general, except for obvious errors or misspellings, you should at least bring up the proposed move on the talk page first. More controversial ones should be listed on Requested moves. I must ask you to please not make any more page moves without seeking concurrence from other editors first. If you continue to move articles at your own whim, you may be blocked from editing. I'm more than happy to answer any questions you may have, and I hope you will remain a productive editor at Wikipedia. &mdash; Knowledge Seeker &#2470; 04:20, September 4, 2005 (UTC)

Stop Moving!
I work for Hours, working on these thinge. And a day later, I have to fix them again. I don't mind the little stuff, but the big stuff. Our Milky Way is a galaxy. I put Galaxy in the tittle, but you keep erasing it. So I put (galaxy). And you still erase it. Eather tell me a way to put galaxy in to The tittle, or Stop Erasing It! &mdash;  Hurricane Dev  o  n  @ unknown


 * Acid, Wikipedia is a wiki. That doesn't mean that everyone can just do as he pleases. We have to work together. Sometimes we don't all agree, in which case we work to find a compromise. Sometimes a few people don't agree with everyone else. If the consensus is to do things one way, though, then those who disagree tolerate the difference. Just because you want the articles to be titled one way doesn't mean everyone else does. In fact, the consensus so far on Wikipedia is not to title them in that way. You are free to disagree but you must discuss. Please read the message I left you before. There are established ways of doing things here; someone cannot just show up and decide to change everything to fit his preferred style, regardless of what others think. I'm afraid I'm going to have to block you from editing for a little while while I undo all your page moves. It will also give you a little time away from editing so you'll have a chance to read about some of our policies, or to plan how you can persuade people your new title is better (I'll leave some comments about that below). Please don't move any more pages unless you propose it and find at least some agreement. You have been temporarily blocked from editing; you are welcome to come back after the block expires. You may also edit this talk page while being blocked. &mdash; Knowledge Seeker &#2470; 01:16, September 8, 2005 (UTC)


 * I moved the articles back. Let's talk about why you feel these new titles would be better, shall we? Would you care to join me on Talk:Milky Way and propose the page name change, as well as why you think your title would be better? &mdash; Knowledge Seeker &#2470; 03:05, September 8, 2005 (UTC)

Deleted

 * I've removed the personal info from your user page, you can put back whatever you want to keep in a few hours when the block expires. Dragons flight 21:30, September 8, 2005 (UTC)

I need Help!
Thanks... &mdash;  Hurricane Dev  o  n  @ unknown

I would like some help, to manege Acid. So I don't get blocked again. I would like to start again fresh. Everyone who would like to give me edvise. Please do. Also, is there a way to change my name from Acid to something else? &mdash; Acid


 * Acid, thanks for being open to discussion. I'm happy to work with you to help you become familiar with Wikipedia. Your bold attitude is commendable. You don't always have to go hunting down all the policies before editing. But if editors who have been here before leave you messages that you should be doing something differently, please listen to them. The reason I reversed your page moves, as I explained above, is that they were in violation of our naming conventions. In particular, article titles should usually be singular (thus, Dog, not "Dogs"); also, Wikipedia style is to capitalize only the first word and any proper nouns, of course (thus Spiral galaxy, not "Spiral Galaxy"). "Milky Way" versus "Milky Way Galaxy" is less clear, but Wikipedia's policy is also to use the most common name of something, and our galaxy is more commonly referred to as the Milky Way. You are certainly welcome to discuss this further here but the article's Talk:Milky Way is probably the best place. Your block is over now, so you can edit Wikipedia again. Please let me know if you have further questions. &mdash; Knowledge Seeker &#2470; 04:38, September 9, 2005 (UTC)


 * Incidentally, e-mailing me fifteen times was probably a bit excessive. To change your user name, you can go to Changing username. Please note that the new user name cannot yet be registered. So don't register your new account yet. &mdash; Knowledge Seeker &#2470; 04:44, September 9, 2005 (UTC)


 * When and how exactly can I change my Name?

I'm still blocked!?
Knowledge Seeker, i'm still blocked. It's 4:00 EST in the US. and i'm still blocked. Do you know why? You said this morning that my block has stopped. Even then I was not unblocked. Please check to see if...
 * You can find the Time I get unblocked.
 * If you can unblock me.

This is starting to scare me. Please find the problem!


 * I'm sorry, Acid; you should no longer be blocked. See the block log; I unblocked you at 9/8/2005 23:34 (UTC); it's currently 23:46, September 9, 2005 (UTC). Do you still get the "blocked" message when you try to edit? Does it say who blocked you and what the reason is? &mdash; Knowledge Seeker &#2470; 23:46, September 9, 2005 (UTC)


 * Thank Knowledge Seeker, i'm back. I promise to be a good Wikipedian for now on.

The new me!
First off, i'd like to say i'm sorry for being a jerk, & for all the changes. When I found I could change the tittles, I lost it. I didn't think it at first, but this block has changed me. Thank you Knowledge Seeker, you helped me change my attitude. I'm going to start off a a fresh user. I want to change my name. Scince I like him, and it's not being used, I want to change my name to "Father Time". &mdash;  Hurricane Dev  o  n  @ unknown


 * User:Father Time is already in use (although it has been inactive for some time). User:FatherTime is available.  You can either simply drop this account and start a new one, or follow the procedure described at Changing username. Bovlb 15:09:20, 2005-09-10 (UTC)


 * Thanks Bovlb. I now  suggested "Hurricane Devon." Named after myself.  And that I survived the 2004 Hurricanes. I'm realy sorry, i'll watch myself in the future. &mdash;  Hurricane  Dev  o  n  @ unknown