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Q1. Iraq and Al Qaeda
Art. 1: Whether Mohamed Atta met Iraqi spy Ahmed Al-Ani in Prague?
 * Obj. 1: High-level Czech officials denied the meeting took place after their confidence waned. Since the alleged meeting took place in their country, they ought to know best and therefore their denial renders impotent the claim of an April 2001 meeting.
 * Obj. 2: There are no records of Atta leaving the country at the time of the alleged meeting.
 * Obj. 3: Phone records of Atta show that he was inside the U.S.A. on April 6, 9, 10, and 11.
 * Obj. 4: Al-Ani was not even in Prague at the time of the alleged meeting.
 * Obj. 5: There is no solid evidence that the two had previously met.
 * Obj. 6: There seem to be no good reasons for an April trip.
 * Obj. 7: Terrorist testimony refutes the April 2001 meeting claim.

"In an assessment of KSM's reporting, the CIA concluded that protecting operatives in the United States appeared to be a 'major part' of KSM's resistance efforts. For example, in response to questions about U.S. zip codes found in his notebooks, KSM provided the less than satisfactory explanation that he was planning to use the zip codes to open new email accounts. CIA report, Intelligence Community Terrorist Threat Assessment, 'Khalid Shaykh Muhammed's Threat Reporting--Precious Truths, Surrounded by a Bodyguard of Lies,' Apr. 3, 2003, pp. 4-5."
 * Reply 1: Vaclav Havel did not deny that the meeting took place as a New York Times article claimed. Havel’s spokesman called the alleged denial a “fabrication.”
 * Reply 2: Atta used neither his real name nor any of his known aliases, but it is likely that he would have wanted to use an anomalous alias to conceal travel to meet with a consul from a sovereign nation. Besides this motive, he had the means because Algerians Khaled Madani and Moussa Laouar gave Mohamed Atta and captured terrorist Ramzi Binalshibh fraudulent passports.
 * Reply 3: Ockham’s razor leads one to conclude that since Atta’s phone was used on those days, Atta was the caller (even though this is not certain) and he was inside the United States. However, the meeting is alleged to have taken place on April 8, so this objection fails.
 * Reply 4: Ahmed Khalil Ibrahim Samir Al-Ani, an Iraqi official, was scheduled to meet a "Hamburg student" on April 8, 2001, according to his appointment calendar. The identity of the "Hamburg student" is narrowed down by the fact that a reputable Czech intelligence informant saw Al-Ani meet with a Middle Eastern male on 4/8/01. Atta was a student at Hamburg-Harburg Technical University and used the exact words "Hamburg student" to describe himself on his Czech visa. Al-Ani denied that the meeting took place, but reports that Al-Ani was not in Prague at the time are flatly untrue.
 * Reply 5: Atta had undeniably been to Prague before. He flew there on 5/30/00 and remained for six hours despite not being able to go past the transit lounge. Even though it is confirmed he was there, he avoided security cameras, and likely couldn't have done so without the help of someone with inside knowledge of the security system, namely, Ahmed Al-Ani. A motive for so carefully avoiding cameras is not wanting to be seen conducting particularly suspicious business. After his Czech visa was issued on 5/31/00, Atta returned by bus to Prague on 6/2/00 for about 20 hours, and then flew back to the U.S.A. Curiously, shortly after that time, large amounts of laundered money started to flow into the U.S.A. to fund the 9/11 plot. Whatever he was doing in the Czech Republic on 5/30/00, it was extremely important. He could have caught a flight to the U.S.A. without a Czech visa. Ted Weaver of The X Report posted a photo of of a 5’7” (Atta’s height) man meeting with Ahmed Al-Ani (who is about 5'5") on the outskirts of Prague in winter 2000 and identified the man as a moustachioed Atta based on strong facial similarities.
 * Reply 6: The timing of Atta's Prague trips is also a cause for concern. Osama bin Laden wanted the 9/11 attacks done in mid-2000, and Atta visited Prague with urgency in late May and early June. When that fell through, bin Laden pressured Khalid Sheikh Mohammed to execute the 9/11 attacks in May to July 2001, and Atta's alleged 2001 trip occurred in April. Czech intelligence service BIS quickly lost track of the Middle Eastern male who got in a car with Al-Ani, which makes sense because Atta was in the U.S.A. a few days later. America n Airlines uniforms were stolen in Rome in April 2001. Atta allegedly visited Prague shortly afterwards. Later, after the 9/11 attacks, stolen American Airlines uniforms were found in Atta's luggage--perhaps Al-Ani provided Atta these uniforms. Al-Ani was observed photographing the Radio Free Europe building several times. Czech intelligence was highly suspicious of Al-Ani and decided to conduct surveillance on him because Iraq had a plot to blow up the building using Islamic militants. After this plot was exposed when Al-Ani's predecessor, Jabir Salim, defected, Al-Ani may have been taking photographs as bait/distraction from the 9/11 plot.
 * Reply 7: KSM and Ramzi Binalshibh ("sworn enemies" of America) denied that the meeting occurred, although based on their track record their testimony must be at the very least taken with a grain of salt. The 9/11 Commission Report says on p514n4:
 * Most of what they say isn't corroborated from other sources. If KSM was protecting U.S. operatives there is no reason he wouldn't cover for Al-Ani. The 9/11 Commission largely trusts the testimony of these men despite its lack of control over if/when/how certain questions would be asked, not being able to talk to the interrogators, and the strong possibility of KSM being tortured via waterboarding.

Q2. Collapse of the World Trade Center
Art. 1: Whether the World Trade Center Twin Towers demolished with thermate?
 * Obj. 1: It would seem that thermate was used to destroy the Twin Towers. For molten steel is shown in a photo of the rubble, and molten steel is also shown in a photo of the crash site.  But jet fuel and office combustibles are not sufficient to explain these high temperatures.  Therefore thermate must have been used.
 * Obj. 2: Low chromium metal found at the WTC could not be structural steel.
 * Obj. 3: Considerable quantities of metal were severely corroded, and such sulfidation is only adequately explained by thermate.
 * Obj. 4: Thermite mixtures are the only adequate explanation of fluorine traces in WTC samples.
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Art. 2: Whether the World Trade Center was destroyed with basement bombs?
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Art. 3: Whether the World Trade Center was destroyed with micro-nukes? Art. 4: Whether 7 World Trade Center was brought down via controlled demolition?
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Q3. The Attack on the Pentagon
Art. 1: Whether Flight 77, a Boeing passenger jet, actually hit the Pentagon?
 * Obj. 1: It would seem that Flight 77 did not strike the Pentagon on 9/11. For Washington, D.C. air controllers thought the plane was a military jet, which is much smaller than the kind of jet Flight 77 was.
 * Obj. 2: When a plane crashes, it ought to leave some evidence which can be used to identify its parts. However, there were no identifiable 757 components at the crash site.
 * Obj. 3: A 757 has quite a large wingspan. However, the damage to the side of the Pentagon is not of the magnitude that a 757 would cause.  Therefore, the aircraft that impacted the side of the Pentagon
 * Obj. 4: Further, some witnesses saw a small plane. ____ says, "_____."
 * Obj. 5: No bodies of passengers and crew were found, but they ought to have been if a plane had crashed there.
 * Obj. 6: Even the Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld, admitted that the Pentagon was hit by a missile and not a passenger jet: "Here we're talking about plastic knives, and using an American Airlines flight filled with our citizens, and the missile to damage this building, and similar [inaudible] that damaged the World Trade Center" [Parade Magazine, / /].


 * Reply 6: The underlined phrase is due to a misquotation of Rumsfeld, who actually said, "as the missile to damage this building." Rumsfeld was speaking of Flight 77 as a missile because the hijackers turned it into a deadly aerial weapon.

Art. 2: Whether the attack on the Pentagon was an inside job?
 * Obj. 1: It would appear that the attack on the Pentagon was an inside job. For a false flag operation involving a state’s own citizens aims to minimize casualties while maximizing psychological impact.  There were 20,000 people in the Pentagon when it was attacked [], and 125 individuals were killed in the building, none of whom were high-level officials [].
 * Obj. 2: Further, a large aircraft did not even hit the Pentagon, so the attack was staged.
 * Obj. 3: High-level officials canceled their flight plans on September 10 []. Now, the only reason they did this is because they knew there would be kamikaze hijackings on the very next day.  Since they were privy to that knowledge, they were part of the 9/11 conspiracy, which means that the Pentagon explosion was an inside job.
 * Obj. 4: The day before the attack, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld announced that $2.3 million of Pentagon funds was missing []. This story was quickly and conveniently buried because of the attack the next day.  Thus it is evident that Rumsfeld made the statement because he knew there would be a national tragedy the very next day, and his foreknowledge entails that he was part of the conspiracy to damage the Pentagon.  Therefore, the strike on the Pentagon was an inside job.
 * Obj. 5: Rumsfeld even had foreknowledge of a strike on the Pentagon and revealed in the morning of 9/11 that the Pentagon would soon be attacked: []

Q4. Flight 11
Art. 1: Whether a firearm was used on Flight 11?
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 * On the contrary, On the contrary, the initial FAA security staff report erred when it said that hijacker Satam Al Suqami shot passenger Daniel Lewin.


 * Reply 1: The 9/11 Commission Report [] says: "An early draft of an executive summary prepared by FAA security staff for the agency's leadership referred to an alleged report of a shooting aboard Flight 11. We believe this report was erroneous for a number of reasons -- there is no evidence that the hijackers purchased firearms, use of a gun would be inconsistent with the otherwise common tactics employed by the hijackers, the alleged shooting victim was seated where witness accounts place the stabbing victim (9B), and, most important, neither Betty Ong nor Amy Sweeney, the only two people who communicated to the ground from aboard the aircraft, reported the presence of a gun or a shooting. Both reported knives and stabbings. AAL transcript, telephone call from Betty Ong to Nydia Gonzalez, Sept. 11, 2001; AAL transcript, telephone call from Nydia Gonzalez to Craig Marquis, Sept. 11, 2001; AAL transcript, telephone call from Nancy Wyatt to Ray Howland, Sept. 11, 2001; Michael Woodward interview (Jan. 25, 2004). The General Accounting Office looked into the gun story and was unable to corroborate it. GAO report, summary of briefing re investigation, Aug. 30, 2002."

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Q6. Flight 77
Art. 1: Whether Hani Hanjour was on Flight 77?
 * Obj. 1: It would seem that Hani Hanjour was not on Flight 77. For he was not a ticketed passenger and he was not on the flight manifest.
 * Obj. 2: Further, the security videos from Dulles on 9/11 do not show Hani Hanjour, but a man of much heavier build with a wider face. Therefore, Hani Hanjour could not possibly have been on Flight 77 to begin with.

Q7. Flight 93
Art. 1: Whether Flight 93 was shot down to prevent it from reaching its target, or any other reason?
 * Obj. 1: The official story is that UA Flight 93 crashed at 10:03. However, this is incorrect, as seismologists proved that the plane crashed at 10:06:05 A.M.  This three-minute discrepancy is suspicious and could very well be used to cover up a shootdown.
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 * Reply 1: The 9/11 Commission Report [] says: "168. Ibid., pp. 23-27. We also reviewed a report regarding seismic observations on September 11, 2001, whose authors conclude that the impact time of United 93 was "10:06:05±5 (EDT)." Won-Young Kim and G. R. Baum, "Seismic Observations during September 11, 2001, Terrorist Attack," spring 2002 (report to the Maryland Department of Natural Resources). But the seismic data on which they based this estimate are far too weak in signal-to-noise ratio and far too speculative in terms of signal source to be used as a means of contradicting the impact time established by the very accurate combination of FDR, CVR, ATC, radar, and impact site data sets. These data sets constrain United 93's impact time to within 1 second, are airplane-and crash-site specific, and are based on time codes automatically recorded in the ATC audiotapes for the FAA centers and correlated with each data set in a process internationally accepted within the aviation accident investigation community. Furthermore, one of the study's principal authors now concedes that "seismic data is not definitive for the impact of UA 93." Email from Won-Young Kim to the Commission, "Re: UA Flight 93," July 7, 2004; see also Won-Young Kim, "Seismic Observations for UA Flight 93 Crash near Shanksville, Pennsylvania during September 11, 2001," July 5, 2004. There are no comments as of yet from dissenting seismologists.

Q8. Israel & 9/11
Art. 1: Whether the state of Israel was involved in the 9/11 attacks?
 * Obj. 1: It would seem that Israel was involved in the planning and execution of the 9/11 attacks. For a former IDF officer named Daniel Lewin was on Flight 11, which was the first plane to crash.  Mr. Lewin used a firearm onboard in order to take over the plane, and then proceeded to pilot it into the North Tower of the World Trade Center.
 * Obj. 2: Furthermore, 4,000 Jews or Israelis were absent from the World Trade Center on 9/11, betraying foreknowledge of an attack.
 * Obj. 3: Odigo
 * Obj. 4: Ariel Sharon
 * Obj. 5: ZIM
 * Obj. 6: Dancing Israelis
 * Obj. 7: Art student spies


 * Reply 1: Mr. Lewin was not a terrorist, and no firearms were used onboard, as stated above (4, 1). Mr. Lewin in fact attempted to foil the hijacking but Satam Al Suqami fatally stabbed him with a knife.