User:Ivanjr92/sandbox

Ivan, I wonder why there are so little acceptable sources of information available about Ishi Giant, that is weird... I wonder if it's because it was discovered relatively recently. The article looks neutral enough, it's quite short though. I wonder if you could make it a little longer, hopefully, those 2 blogs and books that were recommended by Ms. Springer will turn out helpful. I have noticed that the article does not include any pictures, I imagine that it would be a good idea to include a picture of Ishi Giant itself and / or a map of Kennedy Grove with the location of the tree marked (if they are available, of course, I know it might be tricky with the copyright). Ivan, you wrote: "The national park service has list of the tallest trees and ranks of largest trees, the national parked ranked ishi 14th largest due to a unammed being found in 2001" - Did you find this information on the National Park Service website? Is there a particular link that you could use to create a citation? Finally, I wonder if you could find some relevant sources at the Reference paragraph here: List of largest giant sequoias

Good luck, Ivan! NikNovikov (talk) 19:59, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

Hi Ivan, Here is the email our BC librarian sent you both of us. How is it going finding more information using the links she provided? Heather Springer Springerhe (talk) 19:04, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

Below is a list of sources and suggestions you might want to consider for your Wikipedia edits. You are right that there is very little information that meets the criteria for types of sources Wikipedia prefers.

1) https://www.nps.gov/seki/learn/nature/upload/FINAL-30-Largest-Sequoias.pdf This table comes from the National Park Service and it can be used to add a citation for some of the information already on the page as well as add more information.

2) I came across two blogs: https://sequoiaparksconservancy.wordpress.com/2013/09/10/to-find-the-ishi-giant/ and http://www.tarol.com/ishi.html and although you shouldn't use these blogs to add information or citations, they do mention two books that I recommend you trying to get. They are To Find the Biggest Tree and A Guide to the Sequoia Groves of California. Butte College does not carry these books but if you are able to come to campus you can request these items through InterLibrary Loan. Just look for the button that says "Request Item Through Interlibrary Loan". Alternatively, your local public library should be able to get these books for you as well, if you are unable to come to campus.

Regarding the blogs, if you find information that you think is valuable, maybe you could include it on the pages "Talk" page and let the Wikipedia community debate if it should be included on the main page. That's what is great about Wikipedia, is being able to communicate with other contributors to get the best information. Also, talk to your WikiEd expert that is assigned to your class. If you have any questions about a source, they are great for giving you a thumbs up or down and might even have some more suggestions.

3) I'll defer to Heather on if she wants you to go this far but, you could add an image to the page. I did a Google Image search and used the Advanced Search function to limit my results to images that had licenses that were freely available to use but unfortunately there weren't any images to use. However, there were quite a few that were not free to use. My advice, if you're inclined, would be to contact the photographer to get their permission to add the image to Wikipedia and attributing it to them as the photographer. For instance this photo came from one of the bloggers I mentions above. You could send her a private message through the photo website to see if she would be willing to share her photo to Wikimedia commons for you to use on the Giant Ishi Wikipedia page. She may say "no" and that's fine but she may say yes and that would be a great addition to that page.

4) I looked at the General Sherman Wikipedia page to see what type of information is included on that page that you could also include on the Giant Ishi page. One heading I noticed is the "History" section. You could add a sentence or two on who Ishi was/where the name comes from. You should be able to find sources for that in the library catalog. For instance, here is an ebook in our catalog I found by doing a search for Ishi and limiting to ebooks.

5) Lastly, although I did not find an entry for Giant Ishi in our databases I did find an entry in our Britannica Online for Sequoia National Forest in case you needed more general information about the park itself.

Please let me know if you have anymore questions! Thank you!

Good start, Ivan. I've sent you to our librarians for help with reputable sources. It may involve combing books for references to this tree... Springerhe (talk) 00:19, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

Ishi Giant, is a giant sequoia in California, United States. It is located in Kennedy Grove, which is part of a group of eight closely spaced giant sequoia groves situated in Sequoia National Forest in the Sierra Nevada in eastern central California.

Ishi Giant was only found in the 1990s, which shows that there may be more supergiant sequoias yet to be discovered. The Ishi Giant has a ground perimeter of 105.1 feet (32.0 m), one of the largest of all sequoias. This tree has a massive base, a rival to the famous General Sherman tree. The tree is badly burnt and stands at a height of 255.0 feet (77.7 m).

It has a volume of 1,110 cubic meters which ranks it as the 13th largest giant sequoia on earth and 15th largest tree of all (due to the fact a coast redwood named Lost Monarch is larger, with a volume of 1,203 cubic meters).
 * Added article to sandbox ... 02/25/18
 * Not much info of ishi on databases, currently using google instead .... 02/25/18
 * The national park service has list of the tallest trees and ranks of largest trees, the national parked ranked ishi 14th largest due to a unammed being found in 2001. Need more information on this tree to continue with changes. .... 02/25/18