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1877
Erasmus Smith acquires some of the Irish confiscated estates ; makes provision by Indenture of 1657 for five Grammar Schools ; objects of the foundation ; his proposal to give all his Irish estates accepted ; charter of 1669 appointing thirty-two Governors ; only three schools proposed in the charter ; free scholars ; course of instruction ; other advantages to bo given to free scholars. The teaching of Protestantism prescribed in the Charter. The schools failures even in the lifetime of the founder, as shown by a letter of his. The infa-mous statute of William the Third having failed in driving Catholics to the Protestant schools, the Protestant masters employed Catholic assistant-masters to induce them to attend. The act of Anne of 1709 passed to prevent the evasion of the law ; Protestant bishops enforced this statute ; rules of the Governors of Erasmus Smith's Schools of 1712 in aid of the same object ; withdrawal of eighty-five " Popish" boys in one day from the Galway School, when it was attempted to enforce the "rules" ; complaint of the master, and discretionary power given to the Archbishop of Tuam on the subject ; the masters of Erasmus Smith's Schools active agents in enforcing Penal Laws.

Income exceeded expenditure in 1709; petition of Samuel Smith, son of founder, to apply surplus to found and support a mathematical school in Dublin; suggestion approved of, but not carried out ; new school in Dublin, perhaps, a tardy fulfilment of it; Act of 1723 establishing professorships, fellowships, and exhibitions in Trinity College, Dublin, ratifying agreement for the support of twenty boys in Blue Coat Hospital, and for the establishment of " English" or Primary Schools ; Governors pay 130 a-year to Christ's Hospital in London under the Charter of Charles the Second; constitution of Board of Governors.

Extent and character of the estates.

Teaching staff of Grammar Schools three of the four headmasters clergymen ; table of the value of school premises, accommodation for day-boys, and boarders, and amount of salaries of masters ; table of attendance and religious denomination of scholars; number of primary schools under Governors, and attendance at them ; distribution of these schools according to province, as contrasted with the income of the estates of the Governors in the respective provinces.

University Exhibitions. The foundation of Primary Schools a diversion of funds not only from the proper localities, but from the objects of the founder. The University foundations more or less legitimate ; original value of the Exhibitions in Trinity College ; changes in 1861 ; original value bore a certain relation to value of estates: present value bears no relation thereto ; their value should have increased with the change in the value of money.

University Professorships. Power given to Governors by Act of 1723 to apply surplus funds for the benefit of Trinity College. Grants made in virtue of this power.

Annual expenditure upon each class of endowments ; surplus of 20,000 in bank in 1 868 ; net income not easily determined ; estimate of it made by Endowed Schools' Commissioners in 1858; amount devoted to purely educational purposes; Primary Schools absorb half the whole income ; the Erasmus Smith's estates public property. Opinion on the subject of Education Commissioners of 1 791 ; the dissolution of existing corporation recommended. Suggestion as to application of income; opinion of the Primary Education Commissioners on the subject.

1916
"The Educational Endowments by Erasmus Smith, 1657-1894" [pp.26-27]

Documents under the dates 1657-1712 set out the chief original records concerning the educational purposes of Alderman Erasmus Smith of London. The best commentary on them will be found in the judgments of Lord Justice Fitzgibbon and Mr. Justice O'Brien (Documents, II. G), delivered in 1894, after nine years of effort to find an agreed policy. They serve to show that problems created under the Commonwealth persist to-day in Irish Education. Mr. Justice O'Brien referred, in a striking passage, to the conviction forced on Erasmus Smith that his hopes of education as an assimilative force had been fruitless : it found expression in his letters of June 6, 1682, from London, to the Governors of his Schools :


 * "I give you my humble thanks for your careful inspection of the schools... It is the command of his Majesty to catechize the children out of Primate Usher's,. ...My Lords, I designe not to reflect upon any, only I give my judgment why these schooles are so consumptive, which was, and is, and will be (if not prevented) the many popish schooles, their neighbours, which as succers doo starve the tree."

Students of the original documents and of the judgments of 1894 will be able to extract from them the various solutions proposed by those who appeared before the Commission on Educational Endowments. The tenants on the Estates of Erasmus Smith in Tipperary and Limerick petitioned that there should be given "to our children, from the Erasmus Smith Endowments, free Intermediate and University Education, in a form in which they may conscientiously accept it" ; and the Draft Scheme of the Commission was based on the principle of "absolute religious neutrality." It failed because of the failure of the Judicial Commissioners to agree on it. The other proposals made were : (i) the claim of the Governors (then and now in possession) that the endowment belongs solely to the Protestant Episcopal Church ; (2) the claim that the whole endowment is Protestant in character, but should be governed by and shared among all Protestant denominations ; (3) the view of Lord Justice Fitzgibbon, that though the endowment is "vitally, essentially, Protestant," a large part of the funds could be detached for a form of technical education, which in the religious sense would be neutral in character. No more striking and historic instance could be cited to show that questions of education in Ireland often have their roots in the past history of  the land and its people, and in many cases can be solved only by  plans that involve acts of moral judgment on the men who made  that history.


 * Documents, Part I, No. 44:
 * a Originating Indenture, December i, 1657
 * b Charter of King Charles II, 26 March, 1669
 * c Minute-Book Entry, Governors of Schools of Erasmus Smith, 1680.
 * d Order of the Governors of the Schools Founded by Erasmus Smith Esquire, 12th July, 1712
 * Documents, Part II,
 * B: Report of Commissioners of Irish Education Inquiry, 1791:
 * Schools of Erasmus Smith. [pp.166–171] begins "The schools of Erasmus Smith though originating in the intentions of a private individual, yet, from the repeated interpositions of the Legislature and of the Crown, may be now considered as public institutions."
 * [p.173 and 185] propose involvement in new "Professional Academy".
 * G: The Erasmus Smith Endowments, Judicially Reviewed. [pp.222-229] [from C.7517 Appendix, pp. 235-254]

1709
Bill "For applying the surplus profits of the lands and tenements formerly given by Erasmus Smith, esquire, to charitable uses towards the support and maintenance of a mathematical school and schoolmaster in the city of Dublin, and other charitable uses in this kingdom." [Rejected by British Privy Council 8 August 1709 after complaint from Christ's Hospital, London]

1723
10 George I c.1 (private) "An Act for further application of the rents and profits of lands and tenements, formerly given by Erasmus Smith, esquire, deceased, to charitable uses" [Royal Assent 10 Feb 1724]

1773
Return of the Name of any Estate or Property heretofore possessed by tire Governors in the County of Clare ; and whether the Interest in the same has been lost, or in any and what manner determined:
 * The Governors never possessed any estate or property in the county of Clare ; but in or about the year 1773 the then Governors entered into an agreement with Josias Veitch, of the county of Dublin, Esq., for the purchase of so much of the lands of Cahircullamore, Cahircullabeg, Kilnakelly and Kiltie, situate in the county of Clare near the town of Ennis, as should produce a clear yearly profit rent of 100l. after the death of his wife. The negotiation for the completion of this purchase was carried on for several years, but no conveyance was ever executed, as the title could not be made out; and the purchase money was never paid.
 * John Barlow,
 * 11 May 1854. Treasurer and Chairman.

1840
Municipal Corporations (Ireland) Act 1840 reforms the government of The King's Hospital, removes the role of Dublin Corporation and, on its board, replaces the four Corporation officers with four Erasmus Smith governors.

1858
Presbyterian General Assembly's Committee on Intermediate Education adopted a resolution in which they "earnestly direct the attention of Government, the Legislature, and an enlightened public, to the gross abuse and misappropriation of endowments for educational purposes in Ireland, as clearly brought to light in the 'Report of her Majesty’s Commissioners of Inquiry into the Endowed Schools of Ireland;' and in particular, they cannot help cherishing the confident hope that Parliament will no longer permit the princely endowment of Erasmus Smith's foundation to be culpably squandered on objects alien alike to the known will of the founder and the pressing educational wants of the Irish people."

William Gibson wrote:
 * The legislative enactment above referred to [1723] has been interpreted, whether justly or not I cannot say, as a virtual prohibition to the governors against increasing the number of the grammar schools, insomuch that, when in 1773 they proceeded to erect such a school at Ennis, they are represented by the Commission of Inquiry [1858] as exceeding their proper powers. However this may be, they were still left free to provide to the fullest extent for the efficiency of the schools brought into existence by the founder himself. And how have they discharged this important trust? They have neglected to this hour to exercise (except in a few isolated cases) their privilege to nominate free pupils; nor have they so much as made known to their tenantry the existence of their children's right to a free admission. Their grammar school instruction, so far from being free, is of the most expensive kind, the charge being in one case as high as forty guineas a-year for boarders, and ten guineas for day pupils. They have applied their accumulated funds to every object rather than that to which they were set apart.
 * Here is the official return : 4 grammar schools, in Ennis, Tipperary, Drogheda, and Galway, with an attendance of 161, maintained at an annual outlay of some £700, the masters being miserably endowed, each with £100 a-year, and being, at the same time, frequently obliged to undertake and execute required improvements in the school-houses, though this is a duty necessarily devolving on the governors, and ought to have early priority out of the surplus,—that surplus being eleven-twelfths of the annual revenue out of the estates committed to their charge!
 * In no respect, however, have the intentions of the venerable founder been more completely frustrated than with regard to the religious instruction of the pupils in his schools. The requirement of the charter, that all the pupils should be indoctrinated in the Catechism of Archbishop Ussher, has in every case been systematically violated. Nor is this violation to be wondered at, as the masters have been left in utter ignorance of the chartered rules upon the subject, although these were returned to Parliament in 1854, as the "only rules in existence." The master of the school in Drogheda states accordingly, that when he gives religious instruction he allows the Roman Catholics to absent themselves, and that many of the day pupils of other persuasions do not arrive until after the termination of the religious instruction, which takes place at a very early hour. At Ennis there is no religious instruction of a nature to interfere with the attendance of any class of persons whatsoever, although of the day pupils five are Roman Catholics, and of the boarders one. The master states, with reference to the pupils of this persuasion, “ I never interfere with their creed in any one point or way.” In Galway it appears that at an early period some compromise upon the subject wars adopted, through the instrumentality of the Archbishop of Tuam, after which Roman Catholic children attended the school, and an usher was on one occasion dismissed for interfering with the distinctive tenets of their faith!

1885
Educational Endowments (Ireland) Act, 1885
 * Passage:
 * Lords	1884-07-04
 * Lords	1884-07-01
 * Lords	1885-03-16
 * Lords	1885-03-23
 * Commons	1885-07-07
 * Commons	1885-08-11
 * Commons	1885-08-11
 * Commons	1885-08-12
 * Commons	1885-08-13
 * Lords	1885-08-13

1892
Educational Endowments (Ireland) Commission annual report, 1891-92, minutes of evidence and appendices: Index p.201 "Erasmus Smith's Endowments"


 * Report as to || iv
 * Documents relating to ||
 * — Draft Scheme and Memorandum || 136, 141
 * — Indenture of 1657 || (See Report 1885-6, page 440.)
 * — Letters Patent of 1667 || 186
 * — Charter of 1669 || 191
 * Objections and Amendments to Draft Scheme || 175
 * Observations on and "Protest" against Draft Scheme, by Commissioners || 165, 174
 * }
 * — Letters Patent of 1667 || 186
 * — Charter of 1669 || 191
 * Objections and Amendments to Draft Scheme || 175
 * Observations on and "Protest" against Draft Scheme, by Commissioners || 165, 174
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 * Observations on and "Protest" against Draft Scheme, by Commissioners || 165, 174
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Hansard 1894:

Patrick Chance : I beg to ask the Chief Secretary to the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland
 * (1) why the Draft Scheme for the management of the Erasmus Smith Educational Endowment, which was published in 1892, and publicly considered in October, 1892, has not been put in force;
 * (2) when will the Report for 1893 of the Educational Endowment (Ireland) Commission be published;
 * (3) why a large proportion of the income of the Erasmus Smith Endowment, which was expressly left for the free education of poor children on the donor's Irish estates, and 20 other poor 662 children residing within two miles of the schools, has been applied for the benefit of persons who do not come within these terms, notwithstanding the Educational Endowments (Ireland) Act of 1885;
 * (4) whether any steps are to be taken under that Act to reform the management and application of the Erasmus Smith Endowment; and
 * (5) whether the Commissioners, under the Educational Endowments (Ireland) Act of 1855, have yet dealt with the Erasmus Smith and Incorporated Societies Endowments, which are the two largest educational endowments in Ireland, and amount to about £20,000 a year?

John Morley
 * (1) No Scheme can come into force under the Educational Endowments (Ireland) Act, 1885, unless it has been first framed and signed by both the Judicial Commissioners, and subsequently approved by the Lord Lieutenant in Council. The Draft Scheme for the future management of Erasmus Smith's Endowment, which was prepared by a majority of the Commissioners in 1892, was met by a number of objections raising serious and difficult questions, which were discussed at a public sitting of the Commission held in October, 1892. The Judicial Commissioners have not since been able to concur in framing a revised Scheme, but they intend to further consider the matter immediately after Mr. Justice O'Brien's return from circuit, and to announce the result at an early date.
 * (2) The final Report of the Commission will be published before the end of the current year, and will cover the whole period from the date of the last Report to the completion of the business of the Commission, whose general statutory powers have expired.
 * (3, 4, and 5). The endowment referred to is now administered under certain Charters and Acts of Parliament, and this administration cannot be affected under the Act of 1885 otherwise than by a Scheme duly framed and approved. No such Scheme has, as pointed out, been yet framed. The Educational Endowments Commission published a Draft Scheme for the future management of the Endowments belonging to the Incorporated Society on August 14th, 1893. The Scheme was revised after public consideration of the objections received, and was signed by the Judicial Commissioners on February 3rd, 1894. Having been 663 duly published it was provisionally approved by the Lord Lieutenant in Council on May 21st, 1894. The annual amount of Erasmus Smith's and Incorporated Society's Endowments is believed to be much less than £20,000 a year, and the endowments of the Incorporated Society consist of a large number of distinct endowments, many of which are held upon special trusts.

1897
Bill to amend Law relating to Educational Endowments in Ireland HC 1897 Bill 91; Sessional papers 26 January 1897 Vol.1 p.463
 * Where by reason of the disagreement of the Judicial Commissioners under the Educational Endowments (Ireland) Act, 1885, herein-after referred to as "the said Act," a scheme has not been settled or submitted to, or approved by, the Lord Lieutenant in any case, it shall bo lawful to the Lord Lieutenant to request the Lord High Chancellor and the Lord Chief Justice of England to nominate and appoint Commissioners for the carrying of the said Act into execution in such case.
 * The said Commissioners so nominated and appointed shall Powers of have all the powers and discharge all the duties of the Commissioners who have so disagreed, and the said Act shall have and remain in full force and effect in all respects until the scheme in respect of which such disagreement took place is settled and approved and comes into force.
 * This Act may be cited as the Educational Endowments (Ireland) Act, 1897.

EDUCATIONAL ENDOWMENTS (IRELAND) ACT (1885) AMENDMENT BILL HC Deb 29 January 1897 vol 45 cc875-6
 * MR. T. M. HEALY, in moving the Second Reading of this Bill, explained that it was intended to settle a difference which had arisen between two Judicial Commissioners of great eminence in Ireland as to certain intentions of a pious founder in an educational endowment. As the Act was at present drawn there were no means of settling this difference and bringing it to a close. He was quite willing to accept the suggestion that the difference between the two Judges should be remitted in the first place to the Irish Privy Council, a body which would have to settle the scheme finally. But in any case it was absurd to allow the Act to remain a dead letter. He moved that the Bill be now read a Second time.
 * THE CHIEF SECRETARY FOR IRELAND (Mr. GERALD BALFOUR,) Leeds, Central said the Government were not opposed to the principle of the Bill. He was by no means certain that the method proposed for settling the question was the best that could be suggested, and he should reserve on the part of the Government the right after Second Reading to move extensive Amendments, and, if it should turn out that the Bill as it stood could not be amended in the sense the Government desired, he should further reserve the right to oppose the Bill at a later stage.
 * MR. W. JOHNSTON (Belfast, S.) was sorry the Government had given its assent to the Second Reading. This was another attempt to meddle with Protestant endowments in Ireland. Erasmus Smith made a certain endowment for a number of Protestant children in Ireland, and the matter was before two eminent Judges, the Protestant Judge taking one view and the Roman Catholic Judge another view, and the result was that the endowment remained as it was originally intended by the will of the founder. He trusted the Government would pause before they inflicted another blow upon, and fresh discouragement to, the loyal people in Ireland who had done their utmost to uphold the union and integrity of the Empire.
 * Bill read a Second time and commited for Monday next.

QUESTION: EDUCATIONAL ENDOWMENTS (IRELAND) ACT AMENDMENT BILL HC Deb 05 March 1897 vol 47 c59
 * MR. WILLIAM JOHNSTON (Belfast, S.) I beg to ask the Chief Secretary to the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland whether, in regard to the Educational Endowments (Ireland) Act Amendment Bill, the Government have given it further consideration; and, if so, whether he can now state what course they propose to take regarding it?
 * MR. GERALD BALFOUR Yes, Sir. The question of amending this Bill has been most carefully considered; and we have arrived at the conclusion that without alterations so extensive as to amount to an entire reconstruction of the Bill, it would be impossible to amend it so as to carry out the views of the Government. Under the circumstances the Government will feel bound to oppose the further progress of the Bill.

1915
Hansard:
 * The Erasmus Smith property in Ireland is administered by a Board of Governors constituted under Charters of Charles II. and William IV., which, together with Acts of Parliament of 10 Geo. I., 21 and 22 Geo. III., cap. 27, 25 Geo. III., cap. 55, and 31 and 32 Vic., cap. 62, also constitute the scheme of administration. The property is situate in the counties of Tipperary, Limerick, Galway, and Sligo, and I am informed by the Governors that, in accordance with the Charters, grammar schools are maintained at Drogheda, Galway, and Tipperary; professorships, fellowships and exhibitions are provided at Trinity College, Dublin, and fixed payments are made to the King's Hospital, Dublin, and Christ's Hospital, London. The surplus revenue is, likewise in accordance with the Charters, applied in payments for supplemented exhibitions in Trinity College, Dublin, and in the maintenance of twenty schools in eleven different counties in Ireland. The revenue of the foundation for the year ended the 1st May, 1914, amounted to £6,027 7s. 7d., but the detailed allocation thereof in the form asked for could only be furnished at the expense of considerable time and labour. Under the Charters and Acts of Parliament the Governors have full power to examine and allow the accounts submitted in accordance therewith, their practice being to have such accounts duly audited before submission. For an indication of the parties entitled to challenge the administration I must refer the hon. Member to the several Acts and Charters.

1928-37

 * The governors of schools founded by Erasmus Smith Esquire (power to alter the charters) bill 1928.
 * Report of the Commissioners of Charitable Donations and Bequests for Ireland 25 May 1928 "The governors of schools founded by Erasmus Smith Esquire (power to alter the charters) bill 1928» having been examined by the Commissioners of Charitable Donations and Bequests for Ireland the said Commissioners have no objection to offer."
 * Report of the Joint Committee on Standing Orders "The Joint Committee report that no notice of appeal from the Report of the Examiner of Private Bills in the case of the Governors of the Schools founded by Erasmus Smith, Esquire (Power to alter the Charters) Bill, 1928, has been received within the prescribed time and that the said Bill is accordingly deemed to have been read the First Time in the Seanad"
 * Second Reading objected and stands over 10 July 1928
 * Second Reading objected and deferred 11 July 1928
 * withdrawn 24 October 1928


 * Private Deputies' Business. - Erasmus Smith Endowment. 29 May 1929
 * Private Deputies Business. - Erasmus Smith Endowment. 31 May 1929
 * In my county of Tipperary the first grant was for 21,067a. 3p. In a subsequent grant he got 621a. 3r. 14p. Under another grant he got 1,670a. 3r. 4p. Under 21st Charles II., on 15th May, he got 1,041a. 2r. 7p. In County Meath, under the reign of Charles II., on 18th June, he got 728a. 1r. 32p. In County Louth he got 12.596a. 2r. 34p. .. the amount of land which fell to the share of Erasmus Smith, for the payment of a very small sum, was, as I have said, close on 47,000 acres. Does that make my meaning sufficiently clear to the representatives of Trinity College? In Limerick he got 2,193a. 3r. 22p. in one grant or confiscation. In the same county he got a further grant of 1,113a. 1r. 38p.; in Kildare, 372a. 2r. 9p; King's County, 752a. 1r. 12p.; in Queen's County, 440a. 3r. 7p.; Roscommon, 176a. 2r. 9p.; Tipperary (further grant), 3,020a. 1r. 7p.; Limerick (further grant), 4,195a. 2r. 18p.; Galway, 2,415a. 2r. 38p.; Sligo, 2,025a. 1r. 20p.; Westmeath, 751a. 1r. 28p. He got another small property in King's County, and in Dublin he got some tenement houses, the names of the owners of which I can give to the representatives of Trinity College.
 * Private Notice Question. - Position of Erasmus Smith Case. 14 June 1937
 * "The entire question of the Erasmus Smith Schools has been the subject of controversy for generations and it it highly gratifying that by their public spirited co-operation and understanding the governors have contributed to what I hope is the final solution of the problem."

Bill in Oireachtas
1938 debates (Dáil only, Seanad not reconstituted till later in April 1938)
 * First after Exam Feb 2
 * Second and ref to Sel ctt Feb 9
 * Nom sel ctt Feb 9
 * Report rec from Sel ctt Mar 30
 * Report and Final Apr 6 " I have no scheme ready or in preparation in connection with this Bill. All I can say to Deputy Moore and to the House generally with regard to it, is that if the representatives of the parties and the districts which claim benefits under the Bill put before me an agreed scheme, it will receive my sympathetic consideration."

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Preamble: WHEREAS the Governors of the Schools founded by Erasmus Smith, Esquire, were by the said name incorporated by Letters Patent of King Charles the Second dated the 26th day of March, 1669, with power to receive and hold endowments and apply the same to and for the said Schools and other purposes therein mentioned;

AND WHEREAS the powers of the said Governors have been from time to time amended and extended by the Statute and Letters Patent of King William the Fourth referred to in the First Schedule to this Act;

AND WHEREAS owing to the change of times and circumstances doubts arose as to the due application of the said endowments and the income thereof, and as to the enforcement of certain regulations contained in the said Letters Patent of King Charles the Second, and as to divers other matters;

AND WHEREAS with a view to setting such doubts at rest the said Governors instituted an Action against the Attorney-General of Saorstát Eireann by Summons dated the 12th day of November, 1929;

AND WHEREAS the said Governors appealed from the Judgment and Order of the High Court of Justice in the said Action;

AND WHEREAS at the date of the Consent hereinafter mentioned the said Appeal from the Judgment and Order of the High Court in the said Action was pending in the Supreme Court;

AND WHEREAS on the 12th day of June, 1937, a Consent in the said Action was entered into between the said Governors and the Attorney-General of Saorstát Eireann setting forth the Agreement arrived at between the said Governors and the Attorney-General of Saorstát Eireann with a view to ending the said litigation, saving further expenditure, and providing for the application and future administration of the said endowments;

AND WHEREAS by an Order of the Supreme Court made in the said Action dated the 23rd day of June, 1937, the Court on reading the said Consent ordered that the hearing of the said Appeal and all further proceedings be stayed;

AND WHEREAS it is expedient to empower the said Governors to carry into effect the Agreement contained in the said Consent, and to set at rest all doubts with regard to the administration of the said endowments, and to provide for the future administration thereof;

AND WHEREAS the purposes aforesaid cannot be effected without the authority of the Oireachtas;

Erasmus Smith Schools Act Scheme 1941
Department of Education Statistical-Report-1966-1967 p.59–61:

Having regard to the great difficulty and complexity of the questions arising in an action initiated on 12th November, 1929, by the Governors of the Schools founded by Erasmus Smith against the Attorney General a Consent was entered into on 12th June, 1937, with a view to ending the protracted litigation, saving further expenditure and providing for the application and future administration of the endowments concerned in the action. By an Order of the Supreme Court, dated 23rd June, 1937, all further proceedings in the action were stayed upon the terms set out in the Consent. To enable the Governors to carry into effect the Agreement contained in the Consent, to set at rest all doubts with regard to t~e administration of the endowments and to provide for such administration in the future, confirmation of the Agreement was enacted ~y the Oireachtas through the Erasmus Smith Schools Act, 1938--No. 1 (Private), 1938

Section 3 (b) of the Agreement provided for the transfer of certain property and funds to the Minister for Education as from the date thereof (viz., 12th June, 1937) to be applied by him for such public educational purposes of whatsoever nature as the Minister in his absolute discretion may from time to time direct, and" in particular the said Minister for Education may have regard to the localities and classes set out in the Charter of King Charles II as being intended by Erasmus Smith to be -benefited." The moiety of the trust property transferred to the Minister under the Agreement consisted of the Tipperary Grammar School and securities of the estimated value of £65,165. A proportion of the costs of the original legal proceedings culminating in the Supreme Court Order of 23rd June, 1937, and the costs of subsequent proceedings culminating in the High Court Order of 2nd July, 1942, were defrayed by realisation of certain of the securities.

The Minister decided to obtain the approval of the Courts for a Scheme framed under the Act by him for the administration of this property. Accordingly, an Order of the High Court of Justice was .secured directing the adoption of the "Erasmus Smith Schools Act - Scheme, 1941," and the carrying of it into effect as from the date of the Order, viz., 2nd July, 1942. The objects as declared in the Scheme are" the providing of secondary education for boys and in particular for boys of the classes and from the localities hereinafter specified and subject to the conditions hereinafter set out."

The trusts of the Charity are as follows :-
 * (i) To provide wholly' or in part for the reconstruction, equipment and re-opening of the Abbey School, Tipperary (formerly known as the Tipperary Grammar School) as "a Secondary School for boys providing (in addition to ordinary secondary education) a special course of education suited for preparing its pupils for farming or for the more advanced study of agriculture."
 * (ii) To make provision towards the carrying on and maintenance of the Abbey School.
 * (iii) Subject to the foregoing objects to provide Scholarships for deserving boys residing within a radius of seven statute miles of one of the Grammar Schools now situate in the towns of Drogheda, Galway and Tipperary, and for boys residing in any of the districts set out in the Schedule to the Scheme and in which so far as can now be ascertained the former Erasmus Smith Estates were situated.
 * {iv) To receive, hold and apply for the purposes of the Charity, the property and income thereof.

Under Section 9 of the Scheme, the Minister as Trustee, has arranged by Agreement, dated 14th August, 1942, for the demise to the Irish Christian Brothers of the Abbey School, Tipperary, for a term of. 150 years at an annual rent of 1/-, on conditions the principal one of which is that the lessees are to carry on at the premises a combined Secondary and Agricultural School and to utilise the buildings and lands thereof in accordance with the Scheme and for no o],her purpose. This Agreement provides for the payment to the Brothers of an annual sum not exceeding £580 so far as available out of the Income of the Erasmus Smith Charity as a subsidy towards the costs of running the Abbey School. The subsidy became payable as from the date of the Agreement.

Arrangements are now advanced (May, 1943) to re-condition the School. Plans for the reconstruction of the premises have been approved by the Minister (21st April, 1943) and Clause 2 (1) (c) of the Agreement of 14th August, 1942, between the Minister and the Christian Brothers provides for the expenditure on such re-construction, layout and equipment of a sum of £18,000, payable out of the Trust funds of the Charity.

The first competition for the Award of Scholarships, as provided in the Scheme, has been held (Easter, 1943). The rules provide for the award annually of nine "local scholarships," viz., three scholarships for deserving boys residing within a radius of seven miles of each of the towns of Drogheda, Galway and Tipperary, and a number of "open scholarships" whose aggregate annual value does not exceed £200. Open scholarships are confined to candidates who reside in the Erasmus Smith districts, as defined in the Scheme, viz., certain baronies in the eleven counties of Galway, Kildare, Leix, Limerick, Louth, Meath, Offaly, Roscommon, Sligo, Tipperary, Westmeath. The annual value of a "local scholarship" shall be £16, and the annual value of an "open scholarship" shall be £20 if the person to whom it has been awarded resides within a distance of seven statute miles of an approved secondary school, and £40 if he resides more than seven statute miles from the nearest approved secondary school. In connection with the award of local scholarships for the purposes of the Scheme a boy shall be deemed to be deserving if the total income of his parents does not exceed £170 a year, with an addition of £25 in respect of each dependent child under the age of 18. The Scholarships awarded under the Scheme are renewable from year to year and may be tenable for not more than five years. The examination for the award of scholarships unless otherwise prescribed, shall be the examination conducted by the Department for the award of County and County Borough Scholarships to Secondary and Vocational Schools.

A statement of the capital and income accounts of the Charity is set out at page 116 of this Report.

Implementation scheme(s)
2 November 1966 [http://oireachtasdebates.oireachtas.ie/Debates%20Authoring/DebatesWebPack.nsf/takes/dail1966110200073#N303 Written Answers. - Department of Education Statutes and Instruments.] "the statutes, statutory instruments, regulations, rules and orders which apply to or are administered by [the Department of Education]"
 * Erasmus Smith Schools Act, 1938 (number 1 (Private) of 1938) and Order of High Court of Justice dated 2nd July, 1942 directing adoption of the Erasmus Smith Schools Act Scheme 1941 (1940 No. 569 P.).

Department of Education Statistical-Report-1966-1967 p.83:
 * Erasmus Smith Schools, Act, Scheme 1941
 * The scheme deals with the repair of the Abbey School Tipperary and the award of scholarships tenable at Secondary Schools to deserving boys in certain areas in Drogheda, Galway, Tipperary, and to boys resident in the districts in which the former Erasmus Smith estates were situated.



! Year !! Number of Competitors !! Passed Examination !! Received Scholarships
 * 1965 || 125 || 92 || 18
 * 1966 || 110 || 90 || 18
 * }
 * 69 scholarships were renewed for the school-year 1965/66;
 * 67 were renewed for 1966/67.
 * A statement of the capital and income accounts of the Endowment is set out in page 52 of this rep
 * 67 were renewed for 1966/67.
 * A statement of the capital and income accounts of the Endowment is set out in page 52 of this rep

1978:
 * Erasmus Smith Endowment: The objects of the scheme are: (a) to provide for the reconstruction, equipment, reopening and maintenance of the Abbey School (formerly the Tipperary Grammar School) as a secondary school for boys including in its curriculum a special course in agriculture; (b) to provide scholarships for poor boys residing within a radius of seven miles of one of the grammar schools at Drogheda, Galway and Tipperary and for boys residing in any of the districts set out in the schedule to the scheme as being those in which the former Erasmus Smith estates were situated. The provision in regard to the reconstruction etc. of the Abbey School has been fulfilled. A sum of £580 of the income is allocated for the payment of the annual subsidy for instruction in agriculture and £1,720 for scholarships. The annual subsidy is still being paid. Since the introduction of free post-primary education no scholarships have been awarded and the introduction of a new scheme is under consideration.

1986: "Under the Erasmus Smith Schools Act Scheme 1941, which was adopted on 2 July 1942, under the Erasmus Smith Schools Act, 1938 (No. 1 (Private) of 1938), a charity was established, of which the Minister for Education is trustee, to be used, inter alia, for the benefit of the Abbey School, Tipperary.

The property of the charity, at its inception on 2 July 1942, comprised the Abbey School and lands attached thereto or used therewith, and securities and cash amounting to £72,340. The accumulated balance on 30 November, 1986 was £312,934, comprised of securities amounting to £305,927 and cash for investment of £7,007.

Moneys are available, therefore, to be applied within the terms of the trusts of the charity.

A sum of £21,000 was paid in the financial year 1953-54 towards the cost of the reconstruction of the Abbey School. In addition, certain supplementary payments totalling £10,183 were made by the Minister from unexpended balances towards building and other costs incurred by the authorities of the Abbey School over the years 1953-54. The Minister is also empowered to pay an annual subsidy, not exceeding £580, towards the cost and expenses of carrying on and maintaining special agricultural teaching and training in the school and this has been paid each year since the school year 1942-43 through 1985-86. The subsidy for the current year has not yet been paid. Arrangements are in train for the revision of the scheme to take account of changed circumstances. It is not possible to say, [1882] at this stage, when the legal formalities will be completed.

The scholarships payable under the terms of the existing scheme were tenable only at schools providing secondary education. With the introduction of free post-primary education and various schemes of grants for higher education students, the provision in the scheme for the award of certain scholarships is no longer considered necessary. Neither is it considered that provision in the amended scheme for the establishment of higher education scholarships for pupils in the Abbey School, who do not otherwise qualify for grants would be appropriate."

Particular schools
Written Answers No. 137 — Erasmus Smith-Kildare Place Society Schools. 8 May 1996:
 * Cecilia Keaveney asked the Minister for Education the number of Erasmus Smith Foundation/Kildare Place Society schools that were constructed in Ireland; and the number that remain in their original condition. [9073/96]
 * Niamh Bhreathnach: My Department does not have the data on the Erasmus Smith-Kildare Place Society schools sought by the Deputy. Information on the Erasmus Smith schools is obtainable from the Registrar, Erasmus Smith Trust, The High School, Zion Road, Dublin 6.

Galway
Building designed by Richard Morris opened in 1815. Run by Erasmus Smith fund until the 1950s when it was sold to UCG and used by the oceanography department. Bought in 1992 by property developer. Roof was damaged by fire in 1999.

High School, Dublin
The Erasmian is The High School, Dublin magazine, first published in 1899.

Abbey School, Tipperary
The Tipperary Grammar School was occupied by the National Army on the 30th July, 1922, and was evacuated by them on the 19th September, 1923. For that period, the Governors were paid a rent of £250. The Governors claimed a sum of £2,069 1s. 8d. for damage to premises and equipment and the claim was eventually settled by the payment of a sum of £560.

he grammar school survived on the site until it ceased to operate during the civil war of 1922-23. In 1941 the Christian Brothers moved into the buildings of Tipperary Grammar School to establish the Abbey Christian Brother’s School (CBS). Despite a fire shortly afterwards, the school continued to operate on the site and a new building was opened in 1955. The school, still known locally as the Abbey School or simply “the Abbey”, was extended in 1980 and 2003 and is currently celebrating the fiftieth anniversary of its establishment as a Christian Brothers School. 2006 school report:
 * The legacy of Erasmus Smith lives on in the Abbey as the Board of Management, following a long legal route, has accessed the Erasmus Smith Trust fund dating back to 1660. This fund is currently administered by the Department of Education and Science.  This school is the sole beneficiary of the fund and the resources of the fund are used for maintenance, renovation and the purchase of equipment for the school.  A very effective and valuable use of the Trust was the renovation of one of the old grammar-school farm buildings to create a resource centre for students with special educational needs, which was opened in 2005. ... The board is concerned on an ongoing basis with the strategic use of the Erasmus Smyth [sic] fund and, currently, with the issue of fencing the school grounds. ... The Erasmus Smith fund and a DES summer works scheme are being used to renovate and redecorate these classrooms and restore the windows. ... The Erasmus Smith Trust requires the school to offer Agricultural Science at senior cycle and in the past the school had a working farm attached. ...

English schools
The last Erasmus Smith School closed in Wicklow in the 1930s and the Erasmus Smith Wing of Kilcommon National School, Tinahely, which opened in 2007, was partly funded from the sale of the lands on which it stood.

Lands
Owned [part of] Mutton Island, County Galway in 1996 when the sewage plant was planned.

The 1937 agreement items included "Unsold real and chattel real property producing approximately £600 net per annum" in the Protestant moiety, with an "Estimated value subject to adjustment" of £9,000.

23 November 1932 [http://oireachtasdebates.oireachtas.ie/debates%20authoring/debateswebpack.nsf/takes/dail1932112300015 Ceisteanna—Questions. Oral Answers. - Tipperary Military Barracks.]
 * The yearly rent payable in respect of the site of the Tipperary Military Barracks is £71 0s. 9d. which is payable to the Governors of the Erasmus Smith School, from whom the Government hold the property for ever under a lease dated 16th June, 1845.
 * The portion sub-let to the Tipperary Urban District Council for artisans' dwellings is subject to a rent of £75 per annum for ten years from the 1st February, 1926, and of £150 per annum thereafter for a period of 89 years. The site used as a District Hospital is subject to a rent of £6 for 98 years from the 25th March, 1928.

11 May 1950 [http://oireachtasdebates.oireachtas.ie/Debates%20Authoring/DebatesWebPack.nsf/takes/dail1950051100004 Ceisteanna—Questions. Oral Answers. - County Sligo Estates.]
 * Joseph Roddy asked the Minister for Lands if it is the intention of the Land Commission to acquire the Erasmus Smith estate at Glencar, County Sligo.
 * Joseph Blowick: The Land Commission have decided not to acquire these lands.
 * Mr. Roddy: Is the Minister aware that a scheme was partially prepared last year for the acquisition and subdividing of this estate? That is my information from one of the inspectors in Sligo and I should like to know what has transpired with regard to that scheme.
 * Mr. Blowick: I can assure the Deputy that there was no scheme for dividing these lands, because the lands consisted altogether of mountain grazing and many of the local tenants have grazing rights on them. The Land Commission did investigate the possibility of acquiring some of these lands and decided not to do so.

Unsorted Oireachtas debates
http://oireachtasdebates.oireachtas.ie/Debates%20Authoring/DebatesWebPack.nsf/takes/dail1928062000027 PRIVATE BUSINESS. - APPLICATIONS FOR PRIVATE BILLS. Report from the Examiner of Private Bills http://oireachtasdebates.oireachtas.ie/Debates%20Authoring/DebatesWebPack.nsf/takes/seanad1928062000003 PRIVATE BUSINESS. - APPLICATIONS FOR PRIVATE BILLS. Report from the Examiner of Private Bills http://oireachtasdebates.oireachtas.ie/Debates%20Authoring/DebatesWebPack.nsf/takes/seanad1928062700003 PRIVATE BUSINESS. - THE ERASMUS SMITH SCHOOLS. Report of the Joint Committee on Standing Orders http://oireachtasdebates.oireachtas.ie/Debates%20Authoring/DebatesWebPack.nsf/takes/seanad1928071000003 PRIVATE BUSINESS. - ERASMUS SMITH SCHOOLS BILL. The Bill, then, automatically stands over http://oireachtasdebates.oireachtas.ie/Debates%20Authoring/DebatesWebPack.nsf/takes/seanad1928071100003 PRIVATE BUSINESS. - THE GOVERNORS OF THE SCHOOLS FOUNDED BY ERASMUS SMITH, ESQUIRE (POWER TO ALTER THE CHARTERS) BILL, 1928—SECOND STAGE. As objection is taken, I have now to fix the time for the further consideration of this Bill http://oireachtasdebates.oireachtas.ie/Debates%20Authoring/DebatesWebPack.nsf/takes/seanad1928102400003 PRIVATE BUSINESS. - THE GOVERNORS OF THE SCHOOLS FOUNDED BY ERASMUS SMITH, ESQUIRE (POWER TO ALTER THE CHARTERS) BILL, 1928. That leave be given to the promoters to withdraw the Bill.

http://oireachtasdebates.oireachtas.ie/Debates%20Authoring/DebatesWebPack.nsf/takes/dail1929052900027 Private Deputies' Business. - Erasmus Smith Endowment. Frank Fahy I move: “That the Dáil is of opinion that a Commission appointed by the Executive Council should be set up to inquire into and report on the application of the Erasmus Smith Endowment, and, if necessary, submit a scheme for the administration thereof.” http://oireachtasdebates.oireachtas.ie/Debates%20Authoring/DebatesWebPack.nsf/takes/dail1929053100005 Private Deputies Business. - Erasmus Smith Endowment. Thrift suggests judicial review http://oireachtasdebates.oireachtas.ie/Debates%20Authoring/DebatesWebPack.nsf/takes/dail1929060500024 Private Deputies' Business. - Erasmus Smith Endowment. Within the last half-hour I gave Deputy Thrift a typewritten document containing certain conditions on which those who are supporting this motion, and who asked me and others to bring it forward, are willing to accept the course suggested by Deputy Thrift, namely, taking action through the Courts. It would not be fair to expect Deputy Thrift to accept these conditions here and now, as I am sure he would have to consult others. I therefore suggest that the motion be postponed until this day fortnight. http://oireachtasdebates.oireachtas.ie/Debates%20Authoring/DebatesWebPack.nsf/takes/dail1929102300031 Private Deputies' Business. - Erasmus Smith Endowment. Mr. Fahy: Litigation has opened upon this matter, and, in fact, the writ was issued to-day. The legal advisers of both parties have come to an agreement regarding matters. I believe, that might be relevant in the case that is to come before the court and, also, some agreement or understanding regarding the expenses, and in view of this understanding I ask the leave of the Dáil to withdraw the motion. Motion by leave withdrawn. http://oireachtasdebates.oireachtas.ie/Debates%20Authoring/DebatesWebPack.nsf/takes/dail1935032700007 Ceisteanna—Questions. Oral Answers. - Supreme Court Judgment. Is the Minister aware that, as a result of judgment being delayed in the Erasmus Smith Schools case for over two years, the funds of that particular trust are being used to the exclusion of Catholics; and, in view of the judgment given by Mr. Justice Meredith nearly three years ago, is the Minister in a position to take any steps to put an end to what, I think, it would not be too strong to call a scandal? http://oireachtasdebates.oireachtas.ie/Debates%20Authoring/DebatesWebPack.nsf/takes/dail1935120400009 Ceisteanna—Questions. Oral Answers. - Supreme Court Judgments. The only one case in the Supreme Court in which judgment is pending for more than two years is the case of the Governors, Erasmus Smith Schools, v. Attorney-General and others, in which judgment was reserved on the 2nd March, 1933. The Minister is powerless and cannot compel them to give a decision. I would be very sorry to suggest that the judges are deliberately delaying giving a decision in this case or in any other case.

http://oireachtasdebates.oireachtas.ie/Debates%20Authoring/DebatesWebPack.nsf/takes/dail1937061400014 Private Notice Question. - Position of Erasmus Smith Case. The entire question of the Erasmus Smith Schools has been the subject of controversy for generations and it it highly gratifying that by their public spirited co-operation and understanding the governors have contributed to what I hope is the final solution of the problem.

http://oireachtasdebates.oireachtas.ie/Debates%20Authoring/DebatesWebPack.nsf/takes/dail1938020200038 Erasmus Smith Schools Bill, 1938. Bill deemed to be read a First Time. http://oireachtasdebates.oireachtas.ie/Debates%20Authoring/DebatesWebPack.nsf/takes/dail1938020900019 Erasmus Smith Schools Bill, 1938—Second Stage. http://oireachtasdebates.oireachtas.ie/Debates%20Authoring/DebatesWebPack.nsf/takes/dail1938020900029 Erasmus Smith Schools Bill. - Report of the Committee on Standing Orders (Private Business). http://oireachtasdebates.oireachtas.ie/Debates%20Authoring/DebatesWebPack.nsf/takes/dail1938033000031 Erasmus Smith Schools Bill, 1938—Report of Select Committee. http://oireachtasdebates.oireachtas.ie/Debates%20Authoring/DebatesWebPack.nsf/takes/dail1938040600045 Private Business. - Erasmus Smith Schools Bill, 1938—Report and Final Stages.

http://oireachtasdebates.oireachtas.ie/Debates%20Authoring/DebatesWebPack.nsf/takes/dail1947042900024 Sinn Féin Funds Bill, 1947—Committee Stage (Resumed). Laurence Joseph Walsh and John S. O'Connor said SF Funds Act like Er Smith Act, John Dillon disagreed http://oireachtasdebates.oireachtas.ie/Debates%20Authoring/DebatesWebPack.nsf/takes/dail1947042900027 Committee on Finance. - Sinn Féin Funds Bill, 1947—Committee (Resumed). Patrick McGilligan and Dillon anti, Dev concedes it is different http://oireachtasdebates.oireachtas.ie/Debates%20Authoring/DebatesWebPack.nsf/takes/dail1996050800118 Written Answers. - Erasmus Smith-Kildare Place Society Schools. My Department does not have the data on the Erasmus Smith-Kildare Place Society schools sought by the Deputy.

http://oireachtasdebates.oireachtas.ie/Debates%20Authoring/DebatesWebPack.nsf/takes/dail1962031500047 Ceisteanna—Questions. Oral Answers. - Scholarship Awards. 1. SCHOLARSHIPS from Primary to Secondary Schools Schemes administered by the Department Year	Erasmus Smith Scheme Number	Value p.a.							From	to 1957	19		£16 — £20			1958	19		do. 1959	19		do. 1960	20		do. 1961	19		do. http://oireachtasdebates.oireachtas.ie/Debates%20Authoring/DebatesWebPack.nsf/takes/dail1977120700069#N30 Written Answers. - Appropriation Accounts. Erasmus Smith Endowment: The objects of the scheme are: (a) to provide for the reconstruction, equipment, reopening and maintenance of the Abbey School, formerly the Tipperary Grammar School, as a secondary school for boys including in its curriculum a special course in agriculture; (b) to provide scholarships for poor boys residing within a radius of seven miles of one of the grammar schools at Drogheda, Galway and Tipperary and for boys residing in any of the districts set out in the schedule to the scheme as being those in which the former Erasmus Smith estates were situated. The provision in regard to the reconstruction and so on of the Abbey School has been fulfilled. A sum of £580 of the income is allocated for the payment of the annual subsidy for instruction in agriculture and £1,720 for scholarships. The annual subsidy is still being paid. Since the introduction of free post-primary education no scholarships have been awarded and the introduction of a new scheme is under consideration. http://oireachtasdebates.oireachtas.ie/Debates%20Authoring/DebatesWebPack.nsf/takes/dail1978112300034 Written Answers. - Educational Funds and Bequests. [same answer as 1977; then:-] The following funds do not require formal applications for grants: Title of Fund	Number of grants paid in 1977 Erasmus Smith Endowment	1 http://oireachtasdebates.oireachtas.ie/Debates%20Authoring/DebatesWebPack.nsf/takes/dail1980060400066 Written Answers. - County Tipperary School Fund. It is not the case that the Erasmus Smith Trust Funds were intended by the Erasmus Smith Schools Act Scheme of 1941 to be used exclusively for the benefit of the Abbey School, Tipperary. This school's reconstruction, following a fire, and the upkeep of agricultural education therein, were included among the trusts of the scheme. Twenty-one thousand pounds was paid by the Minister towards the reconstruction of the Abbey School in the financial year 1953-54. The Minister is also empowered under the scheme to pay an annual subsidy not exceeding £580 towards the costs and expenses of carrying on and maintaining special agricultural teaching and training in the school and this has been paid every year since the school year 1942-43. In addition, certain supplementary payments totalling £10,183 were made by the Minister from the unexpended balances of the endowment funds towards building and other costs incurred by the authorities of the Abbey School over the years 1953-54 to 1971-72. The trust scheme provided also for the provision of certain scholarships. Consequent on the introduction of free post-primary education and schemes of grants for higher education this provision is no longer considered necessary. The question of revision of the scheme to take account of this circumstance is under consideration. The balance of the funds accruing to the trust is not available for the purpose [1645] of defraying the costs of the extension now in progress at the Abbey School. http://oireachtasdebates.oireachtas.ie/Debates%20Authoring/DebatesWebPack.nsf/takes/dail1986120900144 Written Answers. - Erasmus Smith Schools Act, 1941. Under the Erasmus Smith Schools Act Scheme 1941, which was adopted on 2 July 1942, under the Erasmus Smith Schools Act, 1938 (No. 1 (Private) of 1938), a charity was established, of which the Minister for Education is trustee, to be used, inter alia, for the benefit of the Abbey School, Tipperary. The property of the charity, at its inception on 2 July 1942, comprised the Abbey School and lands attached thereto or used therewith, and securities and cash amounting to £72,340. The accumulated balance on 30 November, 1986 was £312,934, comprised of securities amounting to £305,927 and cash for investment of £7,007. Moneys are available, therefore, to be applied within the terms of the trusts of the charity. A sum of £21,000 was paid in the financial year 1953-54 towards the cost of the reconstruction of the Abbey School. In addition, certain supplementary payments totalling £10,183 were made by the Minister from unexpended balances towards building and other costs incurred by the authorities of the Abbey School over the years 1953-54. The Minister is also empowered to pay an annual subsidy, not exceeding £580, towards the cost and expenses of carrying on and maintaining special agricultural teaching and training in the school and this has been paid each year since the school year 1942-43 through 1985-86. The subsidy for the current year has not yet been paid. Arrangements are in train for the revision of the scheme to take account of changed circumstances. It is not possible to say, [1882] at this stage, when the legal formalities will be completed. The scholarships payable under the terms of the existing scheme were tenable only at schools providing secondary education. With the introduction of free post-primary education and various schemes of grants for higher education students, the provision in the scheme for the award of certain scholarships is no longer considered necessary. Neither is it considered that provision in the amended scheme for the establishment of higher education scholarships for pupils in the Abbey School, who do not otherwise qualify for grants would be appropriate.

http://oireachtasdebates.oireachtas.ie/Debates%20Authoring/DebatesWebPack.nsf/takes/seanad2007020700011#N130 Statute Law Revision Bill 2007: Second Stage There is one Act that should be examined more carefully because it has an ongoing relevance. I refer to an adventurer called Erasmus Smith. To this day, the Erasmus Smith fund is applied, as a result of a legal settlement in the late 1930s, to the Abbey School CBS, Tipperary, but I believe there are also Erasmus Smith scholarships in Trinity College. It was divided into two halves in the 1930s — a Catholic half and a Protestant half. We must ensure the Adventurers Subscriptions Acts of 1640 do not affect that. I draw that point to the Minister’s attention. I notice with interest that the Irish Free State (Agreement) Act of 1922 is to be repealed, something of which I entirely approve. http://oireachtasdebates.oireachtas.ie/Debates%20Authoring/DebatesWebPack.nsf/takes/seanad2007021500008#N27 Statute Law Revision Bill 2007: Committee Stage (Resumed) and Remaining Stages. I raised the issue of the Erasmus Smith Trust in which the Abbey school in Tipperary is involved and I received a thorough reply giving the legislative basis, post 1660, on which it is based and which I think will be very useful to the school. This is an indication of the thoroughness which has gone into the work on the legislation. What is involved is not just a matter of glancing at titles and knocking them off our list. An in-depth study has been carried out. http://oireachtasdebates.oireachtas.ie/Debates%20Authoring/DebatesWebPack.nsf/takes/dail1950051100004 Ceisteanna—Questions. Oral Answers. - County Sligo Estates. asked the Minister for Lands if it is the intention of the Land Commission to acquire the Erasmus Smith estate at Glencar, County Sligo. The Land Commission have decided not to acquire these lands. http://oireachtasdebates.oireachtas.ie/Debates%20Authoring/DebatesWebPack.nsf/takes/dail1932112300015 Ceisteanna—Questions. Oral Answers. - Tipperary Military Barracks. The yearly rent payable in respect of the site of the Tipperary Military Barracks is £71 0s. 9d. which is payable to the Governors of the Erasmus Smith School, from whom the Government hold the property for ever under a lease dated 16th June, 1845. http://oireachtasdebates.oireachtas.ie/Debates%20Authoring/DebatesWebPack.nsf/takes/dail1932112300019 Ceisteanna—Questions. Oral Answers. - Tipperary Grammar School. The Tipperary Grammar School was occupied by the National Army on the 30th July, 1922, and was evacuated by them on the 19th September, 1923. For that period, the Governors were paid a rent of £250. The Governors claimed a sum of £2,069 1s. 8d. for damage to premises and equipment and the claim was eventually settled by the payment of a sum of £560. http://oireachtasdebates.oireachtas.ie/Debates%20Authoring/DebatesWebPack.nsf/takes/dail1980050100045 Ceisteanna—Questions. Oral Answers. - State Ground Rent Payments. Dún Uí Mhaoiliosa	D/Defence	70.00	Governors of Erasmus Smith Schools, “Danum”, Zion Rd., Rathgar, Dublin 6. Abbeylands Tipperary Barracks	Leased to Private individuals	71.04	Governors of Erasmus Smith's Schools, Dublin. c/o The Registrar, Denum, Zion Road, Rathgar, Dublin 6. http://oireachtasdebates.oireachtas.ie/Debates%20Authoring/DebatesWebPack.nsf/takes/dail1985102300091 Written Answers. - Departmental Ground Rent Payments. Renmore Barracks. 70.00	Governors of Erasmus Smith Schools. c/o The Registrar, “Danum”, Zion Road, Rathgar, Dublin 6. http://oireachtasdebates.oireachtas.ie/Debates%20Authoring/DebatesWebPack.nsf/takes/dail2003093000168 Written Answers. - State Ground Rents. SP County Code	SP Region Code	Name and Address	LMLease Code	2002exp	Status	Commence Date	Expiration Date	RentYr	Payment Cycle	Landlord Name and Address Tipperary	Tipperary	Tipperary Former Military Bks, Mitchelstown Road, Tipperary, Co Tipperary	LSE0710	90.20	Temporary date	25/12/2001	31 Dec 50	90.2	Semiannually	Governors of Erasmus Smiths Schools, c/o The Registrar Danum http://oireachtasdebates.oireachtas.ie/Debates%20Authoring/DebatesWebPack.nsf/takes/dail2003100900092 Written Answers. - Departmental Properties. SP County Code	SP Region Code	Name and Address	LMLease Code	2002exp. Status	Commence Date	Expiration Date	RentYr. Payment Cycle	Landlord Name and Address	Agent Name and Address Tipperary	Tipperary	Tipperary Former Military Bks, Mitchelstown Road, Tipperary, Co. Tipperary	LSE0710	90.20	Temporary date	25/12/2001	31 Dec 50	90.2	Semi-annually	Governors of Erasmus Smiths Schools, c/o The Registrar Danum http://oireachtasdebates.oireachtas.ie/Debates%20Authoring/DebatesWebPack.nsf/takes/dail2015121500074#WRL02150 Departmental Properties Ground Rent Renmore Barracks to year ending 31/10/2015	The Governors of the Schools Founded by Erasmus Smith Esq. €88.88.	€88.88	http://oireachtasdebates.oireachtas.ie/Debates%20Authoring/DebatesWebPack.nsf/takes/seanad2007021500008

Primary

 * [includes specific Erasmus Smith Act and several more generic ones.]
 * [includes specific Erasmus Smith Act and several more generic ones.]
 * [includes specific Erasmus Smith Act and several more generic ones.]

Official

 * Appendices:
 * N* l.—A Printed Copy of the Charter
 * N° 2.—A Rental of the Estates of the Governors of the Schools founded by Erasmus Smith, Esquire
 * N° 3.—List of the Schools
 * N° 4.—Annual Disbursements of the Governors
 * N° 5.—Number of Scholars in the several Schools, May 1809
 * N° 5.—Number of Scholars in the several Schools, May 1809


 * Appendix C—Correspondence; Part I—Erasmus Smith Professorships
 * possibly more
 * (Also Google books)
 * Historical Sketch of Endowed Schools in Ireland, From the foundation of Erasmus Smith's Schools, in 1669, to that of the Protestant Charter Schools, in 1733 pp.11-14
 * Erasmus Smith's Schools pp.64-90
 * Appendix II Estates under the management of the Governors of the Schools founded by Erasmus Smith, Esq. pp.33–39
 * Index: "Erasmus Smith" pp.480–486 "And see under Names of Schools or Localities"
 * Lots here. Some in earlier reports too.
 * Appendix A; SCHEME No.144—ERASMUS SMITH'S ENDOWMENTS (OBJECTIONS AND AMENDMENTS.)
 * Appendix II Estates under the management of the Governors of the Schools founded by Erasmus Smith, Esq. pp.33–39
 * Index: "Erasmus Smith" pp.480–486 "And see under Names of Schools or Localities"
 * Lots here. Some in earlier reports too.
 * Appendix A; SCHEME No.144—ERASMUS SMITH'S ENDOWMENTS (OBJECTIONS AND AMENDMENTS.)
 * Lots here. Some in earlier reports too.
 * Appendix A; SCHEME No.144—ERASMUS SMITH'S ENDOWMENTS (OBJECTIONS AND AMENDMENTS.)
 * Lots here. Some in earlier reports too.
 * Appendix A; SCHEME No.144—ERASMUS SMITH'S ENDOWMENTS (OBJECTIONS AND AMENDMENTS.)



Websites

 * Erasmus Smith Trust Archives:
 * THE ERASMUS SMITH TRUST
 * ENGLISH SCHOOLS SUMMARY
 * ENGLISH SCHOOLS SUMMARY