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 * User:John37309/sandbox/Page 1 - Milesians family tree - Genesis, through The Gaedil, to the Milesians
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 * User:John37309/sandbox/Page 3 - Conmáel mac Eber Finn family tree - Progeny of Conmáel son of Eber Finn
 * User:John37309/sandbox/Page 4 - Lugaid mac Íth family tree - Progeny of Lugaid son of Íth
 * User:John37309/sandbox/Page 5 - Erainn family tree - Progeny of Íriel Fáid son of Érimón, The Erainn
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 * User:John37309/sandbox/Page 7 - Connachta family tree - Progeny of Íriel Fáid son of Érimón, Connachta
 * User:John37309/sandbox/Page 8 - Cenél Eogain family tree - Progeny of Íriel Fáid son of Érimón, Northern Uí Néill - Cenél Eogain
 * User:John37309/sandbox/Page 9 - Cenél Conaill family tree - Progeny of Íriel Fáid son of Érimón, Northern Uí Néill - Cenél Conaill
 * User:John37309/sandbox/Page 10 - Clann Cholmáin family tree - Progeny of Íriel Fáid son of Érimón, Southern Uí Néill - Clann Cholmáin
 * User:John37309/sandbox/Page 11 - Síl nÁedo Sláine family tree - Progeny of Íriel Fáid son of Érimón, Southern Uí Néill - Síl nÁedo Sláine
 * User:John37309/sandbox/Page 12 - Cenél Coirpri family tree - Progeny of Íriel Fáid son of Érimón, Southern Uí Néill - Cenél Coirpri
 * User:John37309/sandbox/Page 13 - Cenél Lóegaire family tree - Progeny of Íriel Fáid son of Érimón, Southern Uí Néill - Cenél Lóegaire

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1914 translation by H. Rackham 1
"But I must explain to you how all this mistaken idea of denouncing pleasure and praising pain was born and I will give you a complete account of the system, and expound the actual teachings of the great explorer of the truth, the master-builder of human happiness. No one rejects, dislikes, or avoids pleasure itself, because it is pleasure, but because those who do not know how to pursue pleasure rationally encounter consequences that are extremely painful. Nor again is there anyone who loves or pursues or desires to obtain pain of itself, because it is pain, but because occasionally circumstances occur in which toil and pain can procure him some great pleasure. To take a trivial example, which of us ever undertakes laborious physical exercise, except to obtain some advantage from it? But who has any right to find fault with a man who chooses to enjoy a pleasure that has no annoying consequences, or one who avoids a pain that produces no resultant pleasure?"

1914 translation by H. Rackham 2
"On the other hand, we denounce with righteous indignation and dislike men who are so beguiled and demoralized by the charms of pleasure of the moment, so blinded by desire, that they cannot foresee the pain and trouble that are bound to ensue; and equal blame belongs to those who fail in their duty through weakness of will, which is the same as saying through shrinking from toil and pain. These cases are perfectly simple and easy to distinguish. In a free hour, when our power of choice is untrammelled and when nothing prevents our being able to do what we like best, every pleasure is to be welcomed and every pain avoided. But in certain circumstances and owing to the claims of duty or the obligations of business it will frequently occur that pleasures have to be repudiated and annoyances accepted. The wise man therefore always holds in these matters to this principle of selection: he rejects pleasures to secure other greater pleasures, or else he endures pains to avoid worse pains."

1914 translation by H. Rackham 3
"On the other hand, we denounce with righteous indignation and dislike men who are so beguiled and demoralized by the charms of pleasure of the moment, so blinded by desire, that they cannot foresee the pain and trouble that are bound to ensue; and equal blame belongs to those who fail in their duty through weakness of will, which is the same as saying through shrinking from toil and pain. These cases are perfectly simple and easy to distinguish. In a free hour, when our power of choice is untrammelled and when nothing prevents our being able to do what we like best, every pleasure is to be welcomed and every pain avoided. But in certain circumstances and owing to the claims of duty or the obligations of business it will frequently occur that pleasures have to be repudiated and annoyances accepted. The wise man therefore always holds in these matters to this principle of selection: he rejects pleasures to secure other greater pleasures, or else he endures pains to avoid worse pains."

1914 translation by H. Rackham 4
"On the other hand, we denounce with righteous indignation and dislike men who are so beguiled and demoralized by the charms of pleasure of the moment, so blinded by desire, that they cannot foresee the pain and trouble that are bound to ensue; and equal blame belongs to those who fail in their duty through weakness of will, which is the same as saying through shrinking from toil and pain. These cases are perfectly simple and easy to distinguish. In a free hour, when our power of choice is untrammelled and when nothing prevents our being able to do what we like best, every pleasure is to be welcomed and every pain avoided. But in certain circumstances and owing to the claims of duty or the obligations of business it will frequently occur that pleasures have to be repudiated and annoyances accepted. The wise man therefore always holds in these matters to this principle of selection: he rejects pleasures to secure other greater pleasures, or else he endures pains to avoid worse pains."

Baath mac Magog
Baath or Baath mac Magog, was a son of Magog, son of Japheth,  son of Noah, and he was the father of Fénius Farsaid, according to version "M" of Lebor Gabála Érenn, which is the Great Book of Lecan. He is described as being one of the men of Scythia and the Goths, that is, The Gaedil. According to the same version of the story, he had four brothers, Ibath, Barachan, Emoth and Aithechta. But the story further states that "Others say however that Feinius Farrsaid was son of Baath, son of Ibath, son of Gomer, son of Iafeth (Japheth)".

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1914 translation by H. Rackham 101
"On the other hand, we denounce with righteous indignation and dislike men who are so beguiled and demoralized by the charms of pleasure of the moment, so blinded by desire, that they cannot foresee the pain and trouble that are bound to ensue; and equal blame belongs to those who fail in their duty through weakness of will, which is the same as saying through shrinking from toil and pain. These cases are perfectly simple and easy to distinguish. In a free hour, when our power of choice is untrammelled and when nothing prevents our being able to do what we like best, every pleasure is to be welcomed and every pain avoided. But in certain circumstances and owing to the claims of duty or the obligations of business it will frequently occur that pleasures have to be repudiated and annoyances accepted. The wise man therefore always holds in these matters to this principle of selection: he rejects pleasures to secure other greater pleasures, or else he endures pains to avoid worse pains."

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Dál Fiatach bloodline
Forgg mac Dalláin is descended from the Dál Fiatach. They are the Progeny of Íriel Fáid son of Érimón son of Míl son of Bile son of Breogan.

Lebor Gabála Érenn, Part V, page 307; by Robert Macalister; Fíatach Finn s. Daire s. Dluthach s. Detsin s. Eochu s. Sin s. Rosin s. Triar s. Rothriar s. Ernal s. Maine Mór s. Forgo s. Feradach s. Ailill Erann s. Fíachu Fer-Mara s. Óengus Tuirmech Temrach.

Foras Feasa ar Éirinn, Section 42, page 289; Fearghus Duibhdheadach son of Fionnchaidh, son of Oghaman, son of Fiatach Fionn, son of Daire, son of Dluthach, son of Deitsin, son of Eochaidh, son of Sin, son of Roisin, son of Triun, son of Roithriun, son of Airndil, son of Maine, son of Forga, son of Fearadhach, son of Oilill Earann, son of Fiachaidh Fear Mara, son of Aonghus Tuirbheach Teamhrach.

'''The Laud Genealogies and Tribal Histories. Page 337;''' Duib Tuile m. Demmáin m. Cairill (qui credit Patricio) m. Muiredaigh Mundeirg m. Forgo m. Dallaín m. Dubthaig m. Miennaig m. Ludgach m. Óengusa Find m. Fergusa Dubdhétaig (Móen ingen Chuind Chétchthaig máthair na trí Fergus a ndochersat i cath Crinna) m. Imchado m. Findchado m. Fíatach Find (a quo Dál Fíatach) m. Fir furmi m. Dáiri m. Dlúthaig m. Deitsini m. Echach m. Sín m. Rosin m. Treín m. Rothrein m. Rogein m. Arndil m. Mane Mair m. Forgo.

Genealogies from Rawlinson B 502, Section 26, page 322; ¶1686 Donnchad m. Néill m. Eochada m. Arddgail m. Matudáin m. Áeda m. Eochucáin m. Áeda m. Echdach m. Fiachna m. Áeda Róin m. Béicce Bairche m. Blaithmeicc m. Máel Coba m. Fiachnae m. Duib Thuinne m. Demmáin m. Cairill m. Muredaich Mundeirg m. Forgo m. Dalláin m. Lugdach m. Rossa m. Imchada m. Óengusa Find m. Fergusa Dubdétaig m. Imchatha m. Findchada m. Ogamuin m. Fiachach Fir Umai m. Dáire m. Dlúthaich m. Deitsin m. Echdach m. Sin m. Roshin.

Reference = Irish Kings and High Kings, Francis John Byrne, 2001, page 285 & 286.

Clanna Dedad bloodline
Deda mac Sin

Foras Feasa ar Éirinn, Section 37, page 230 & 231; Eidirsceol son of Eoghan, son of Oilill, son of Iar, son of Deaghaidh, son of Sin, son of Roisin, son of Triun, son of Roithriun, son of Airndil, son of Maine, son of Forga, son of Fearadhach, son of Oilill Erann, son of Fiachaidh Fear Mara, son of Aonghus Tuirbheach Teamhrach, son of Eochaidh Foiltleathan, son of Oilill Caisfhiaclach, son of Connla Cruaidhchealgach, son of Iarannghleo Fathach, son of Meilge Molbhthach, son of Cobhthach Caol mBreagh, son of Ughaine Mor.

And, it says, page 231; Conaire Mor son of Eidirsceol, son of Eoghan, son of Oilill, son of Iar, son of Deaghaidh, son of Sin, son of Roisin, son of Triun, son of Roithriun, son of Airndil, son of Maine, son of Forga, son of Fearadhach, son of Oilill Erann, son of Fiachaidh Fear Mara, son of Aonghus Tuirbheach Teamhrach

Foras Feasa ar Éirinn, Section 40, page 269; Conaire son of Mogh Lamha, son of Lughaidh Allathach, son of Cairbre Cromcheann, son of Daire Dornmhar, son of Cairbre Fionnmhor, son of Conaire Mor, son of Eidirsceol of the race of Eireamhon,

Lebor Gabála Érenn, Part V, page 471; by Robert Macalister; Conaire the fair, son of, Mog Lama the fierce hero, son of, Lugaid, renowned and white, son of, Cairpre the shapely, of bent head, Son of, Daire the great-fisted, son he of, Cairpre, white and great, son of, great Conaire from the plain, son of, Eterscel son of, Eogan. Eogan who was son of fortunate, Mai, son of, Ailill the Great, son of, lar, a generous son, festive, under a white sun,

Dedad son of, Sin son of, Ro-sin, Son of, Tren, and son of, Ro-thren very noble, son of, Ernal, son of, great Maine, son of, Forgo, son of, Feradach. the good son of, Ailill of Erann, son of, Fiachu the Seaman.

Lebor Gabála Érenn, Part V, page 301; by Robert Macalister; Eterscél Mór s. Eogan s. Ailill, s. lar s. Ailill s. Deda s. Sin, s. Rosín

and it also says on page 301, near the bottom of the page; Deda s. Sin s. Daire s. Ailill s. Eogan s. Ailill s. lar s. Ailill s. Deda s. Sin was over Mumu.

Genealogies from Rawlinson B 502, Section 26, page 328; GENELACH RÍG N-ALBAN ¶1696; Máel Coluim macc Cináeda m. Máel Coluim m. Domnaill m. Causantín m. Cináeda m. Alpín m. Echdach m. Áeda Find m. Domongairt m. Domnaill Bricc m. Echach Buidi{facsimile page & column 162d} m. Áedáin m. Gabráin m. Domongairt m. Fergusa m. h-Eircc m. Echdach Muinremuir m. Óengusa Fir m. Feideilmid m. Óengusa m. Feideilmid m. Cormaicc m. Croithluithe m. Find Féicce m. Achir m. Echdach m. Fiachach m. Feidelmid m. Cincce m. Guaire m. Cintae m. Coirpri Rigfhota m. Conaire Cáem

p.329 m. Lugdach m. Cairpri Chrommchinn m. Dáire Dornmáir m. Cairpre m. Conaire Móir m. Eterscéla m. Éogain m. Ailella Áin m. h-Éir m. Dedad m. Sin m. Roshin m. Triir m. Rothriir m. Airnnil m. Maine m. Forggo m. Feradaig m. Ailella Érann m. Fiachach Fir Mara m. Óengusa Turbich Temra m. Echach Altlethain m. Fir Cetharraid m. Fir Raith m. Fir Anaraith m. Fir Almaich m. Láebchuire m. Ailella Casfiaclaich m. Conlaíd m. h- Irero m. Meilge m. Cobthaich m. Úgaine Máir m. Echach Buadaig m. Duach Ladcrai &rl.

'''Margaret E. Dobbs, Side-lights on the Táin age and other studies. Dundalk: WM. Tempest. 1917.;''' This book has a great family tree for Clanna Dedad; Margaret E. Dobbs, http://www.archive.org/details/cu31924028055774 Side-lights on the Táin age and other studies. Dundalk: WM. Tempest. 1917. https://archive.org/stream/cu31924028055774#page/n15/mode/2up Page 8, family tree for Clanna Dedad.

Eochu mac Luchta genealogy
The Metrical Dindshenchas, poem 62, Loch Dergderc In English; http://www.ucc.ie/celt/online/T106500C/text062.html In Irish; http://www.ucc.ie/celt/online/G106500C/text062.html That poem gives the full genealogy of Eochu mac Luchta.

This book also has the genealogy for Eochu mac Luchta; '''Margaret E. Dobbs, Side-lights on the Táin age and other studies. Dundalk: WM. Tempest. 1917.;''' https://archive.org/stream/cu31924028055774#page/n50/mode/1up Page 43, family tree for Eochu mac Luchta & others.

Another book with the genealogy for Eochu mac Luchta; Genealogies from Rawlinson B 502, Section 26, page 332, the GENELACH NA FOMORE section, says; http://www.ucc.ie/celt/online/G105003/text026.html Item: Eochu m. Luchtai m. Lugdach Lámfhind m. Lugair m. Ainle m. Leo Lámfatai m. Smirduib m. Molaich m. Gáeth m. Ingáeth (page break) m. Cormaicc Cáech m. Ailella Láebchuire m. Luind m. Rothruaid m. Mairthened m. Find m. Sithchinn m. Éoin Bricc m. Lugdach m. Ítha &rl.

Uí Ceinnselaig Gen
List of kings of Leinster.

Uí Ceinnselaig.

Uí Dúnlainge.

Cathair Mór.

Annals of the Four Masters, M435.2 says; Breasal Bealach, son of Fiacha Aiceadh, son of Cathaeir Mor (King of Leinster), died. http://www.ucc.ie/celt/published/T100005A/text032.html

FFE, The History of Ireland (Author: Geoffrey Keating), Section 29, page 169 & 171 discusses the Cathair Mór group; http://www.ucc.ie/celt/published/T100054/text039.html

Rawlinson B 502; Genealogies from Rawlinson B 502 has tonnes of genealogy for the Kings of Laigin; http://www.ucc.ie/celt/online/G105003/

Genealogies from Rawlinson B 502, Section 1, pages 1 to 9; (page 10 has "Máel na m-Bó") http://www.ucc.ie/celt/online/G105003/text001.html

Genealogies from Rawlinson B 502, Section 2, pages 10 to 17; http://www.ucc.ie/celt/online/G105003/text002.html

Genealogies from Rawlinson B 502, Section 3, pages 17 to 45; http://www.ucc.ie/celt/online/G105003/text003.html

Genealogies from Rawlinson B 502, Section 4, pages 46 to 78; http://www.ucc.ie/celt/online/G105003/text004.html

Genealogies from Rawlinson B 502, Section 5, pages 79 to 86; http://www.ucc.ie/celt/online/G105003/text005.html

Genealogies from Rawlinson B 502, Section 6, pages 87 to 100; http://www.ucc.ie/celt/online/G105003/text006.html

This has the genealogy for Diarmait mac Máel na mBó; Irish pedigrees; or, The origin and stem of the Irish nation (1892), by John O'Hart, - Volume: 1, pg.555; https://archive.org/stream/irishpedigreesor_01ohar#page/555/mode/1up