User:Kadandaly

Thanks Maveric149 for showing me how to explain or were to write notes. You see I am a new user. I am adding new link to the Sudan page in this encyclopedia it is called music sampler. Just search for the word Sudan and you will learn a lot about my country People here are deleting my file without telling me why. I uploaded the file 3 times and every time it was deleted by a different user. Now I hope they don?t delete my whole country page.

If I am not supposed to load the music files in the upload folder. Where can I upload them and how can I point to them from the article page? --Kadandaly


 * No problem. The problem I think the other sysops had with the files you uploaded is that the either the musical notes or the performance of those notes (yes computers count) are probably copyrighted. And since you did not state anything in the comment field, the other sysops probably thought "better safe than sorry". You need to demonstrate that the files and musical notes are either not copyrighted or you have permission from the copyright owner to release them under the GNU FDL (our copyright here). Of course, this is all assuming that you actually intend to use the files in a wikipedia encyclopedia article. BTW, uploading a bogus sunflower.jpg to blot-out a file uploaded by one of the sysops that deleted your uploads is a very serious break of protocol here and could very well get your IP banned if you don't demonstrate better behavior in the future. For starts, how about you apologize to user:Koyaanis Qatsi for doing this. --maveric149

Sorry, Kadandaly. I saw the midi file, but didn't remember seeing an article by you, so I didn't realize it belonged to an article. There are many people who find our upload page, probably with a web search, and upload school pictures, game scenes, etc. without knowing what they're doing. --PierreAbbat

this is an encyclopedia. How are you going to be using Alakhdar.mid here? --maveric149

This is, as noted above, an encyclopedia. It's not a file server. People are deleting files because they aren't relevant to the encyclopedia. If they're your files, they don't belong here--files that belong to anyone aren't appropriate to this project, for copyright reasons. If you need to leave someone a message, or ask a question, the way to do it is to use their user page--as I am here. Not to overwrite image files with your complaints. - I just moved your Sudan/Music page to Music in Sudan (and did the same thing for Poland while I was at it); I haven't touched the content. The move was just because of conventions to avoid the "/" in the names of pages. Your idea of uploading samples os Sudanese music so that others could understand your country's music is a fantastic one. I also think that the person who was talking about the ownership of the music was missing the point. I'm sure that there is enough Sudanese music in the public domain to negate that problem.

I think that the problem is more fundamental than that. Nobody seems to have given any consideration to the issue of uploading music of any kind to Wikipedia, and what technically is the best way to do this. I certainly believe that music samples have a place in an encyclopedia, but that this was impossible in a traditional paper encyclopedia. Good luck. Eclecticology, Monday, July 8, 2002 - Well, first the music itself has to be in the public domain, and then the performance of it has to be also--so find a recording that's not copyrighted of music that's also not copyrighted, and you're ok. But in all likelihood there's very little of that indeed. Even new performances of Mozart are copyrighted by default; the musicians have to disclaim copyright explicitly for it not to be. Good luck finding any, and cite when you do. Koyaanis Qatsi, Monday, July 8, 2002

Don't worry about the overwrite; I had a backup and reuploaded it. I don't hold a grudge often. :-)

My first instinct on seeing a music upload is to delete because it's almost always a copyright violation--even some music released in the 1920s is still under copyright; and music from the 16th century recorded today would be under copyright because of the copyright on the recording. If you have a piece that's relevant to an article and you know for certain that it's in the public domain, just go ahead and reupload it--but as a precaution you should probably explain how you know it to be in the public domain, because the copyright situation for music isn't very good. :-) Cheers, Koyaanis Qatsi, Monday, July 8, 2002