User:King of Hearts/Admin coaching/AfD/Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Man in the Moon (song)

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Man in the Moon (song)
Barely anything here; unverified claims and an unpopulated infobox. If I came to this page searching out information, I'm not sure I'd be satisfied. I go to AFD because if the uncited information were removed, it would probably be too short to justify its inclusion in Wikipedia. Seegoon (talk) 23:31, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep--according to the main article, the single charted at no. 6 in the Swedish charts, and therefore passes WP:NSONGS. Drmies (talk) 00:57, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete as a non-plausible search term, fails notability per WP:MUSIC. While it may have charted, WP:NSONGS states (and this is the bit people love to leave out in their arguments); "notability aside, a separate article on a song is only appropriate when there is enough verifiable material to warrant a reasonably detailed article". This article is only 2 short sentences, and there is nothing mentioned that isn't already in the parent article.   Esradekan Gibb    "Talk" 01:25, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Hey E. Gibb, what is the matter? Are you trying to paint me as some sort of inclusionist here who willfully leaves out parts of policy to suit her own agenda? Please be nice, assume some good faith, and strike that parenthetic remark. And then I'll go and apply that part of the policy I didn't read carefully enough, OK? Drmies (talk) 03:31, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
 * @Esradekan Gibb - Note - The question is not "how long is the article right now", the question is "does enough verifiable material exist to write a reasonably detailed article". So a better argument might be "it does meet WP:MUSIC, but I don't think there is enough material to warrant a separate article at this time". Sorry for being so nit picky tonight. — LinguistAtLarge • Talk  05:16, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep (per charting at #6 in Sweden) with a possible redirect to Titiyo due to lack of material to support a stand-alone article. This article calls it a "massive late 1980s European hit" though, so more material is probably available if someone wants to go looking. — LinguistAtLarge • Talk  05:25, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Nice find, Linguist--but I can do you one better: click on "Books" in your search and you get this. The first, from a book called All music guide to soul confirms Titiyo's notability and the single charting; the second, a 1998 Billboard article, places her (and the album from which the single came) in a larger, Swedish RnB perspective. Whether this is enough for a full-fledged article is a different matter. Drmies (talk) 17:18, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete and place a redirect to Titiyo in its place. Hierophantasmagoria (talk) 05:55, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete in that it's mentioned in Tityo. At first, I confused this with the R.E.M. hit, but that was Man on the Moon (song).  I think that Gibb is right-- there are no sources to confirm that this song actually reached #6 on a Swedish chart, it's not a likely redirect, and the article tells the reader nothing whatsoever about the song, other than that it was sung by Tityo.  If you're going to do original research, at least listen to the damn song and report back to us.  Mandsford (talk) 16:37, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Mandsford, I haven't listened to the damn song (I detest RnB), and I don't know about any original research (who did you address that to?). But the #6 position is verified now. Drmies (talk) 17:59, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: the title is incorrect--the single is called "Talking to the Man in the Moon." Drmies (talk) 17:36, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete and redirect to the artist. Doesn't seem to be any potential for expansion.  --Clay Collier (talk) 22:13, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete and replace with a redirect.  coccyx bloccyx  (toccyx)  22:32, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Dear admin, if it comes to deletion, please make that a merge and redirect, under both titles ("Man in the Moon" and "Talking to the Man in the Moon")? I did put some time in, and there is a bit of history to preserve. Thanks. Drmies (talk) 00:35, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete: trivial 3rd party coverage, not likely to expand beyond a stub. JamesBurns (talk) 06:20, 3 April 2009 (UTC)