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Sources-

Stoicorum Veterum Fragmenta

Mnemosyne: Bibliotheca Philologica Classica Batava: Locating the cosmos: An academic argument against Chrysippus (1997)

Revue International de Philosophie: Chrysippus on extension and the void

Philosophy of Chrysippus

Above Sources have all been ordered^^^^

http://merlin.lib.umsystem.edu/search~S5/o70877848 (ON CAMPUS)

-CALL NUMBER ( QB991.C92 S83 2007 )

Zeno of Tarsus

Panaetius

Boethus of Sidon

Lucan

Final Edit:

Abandonment of Ekpyrosis

Ekyprosis itself was, for the most part a short lived cosmological theory. With both Zeno of Tarus, and Cleanthes theorizing on Ekyprosis in the third century B.C., and then Chrysippus expanding upon this soon after in the second century B.C., Ekyprosis would be abandoned all together by early Roman Stoics. A strong acceptance of Aristotle's theories of the universe combined with a more practical lifestyle practiced by the Roman people, caused these later Stoics to focus their main effort on their own social well being on earth, and not concentrate on the cosmos.

A prime example of this is the the prominent Stoic and Roman Emperor, Marcus Aurelius. In his personal writing Meditations, Marcus Aurelius chooses to discuss how one should act and live their life, rather than speculate on cosmological theories.

Ekpyrosis itself was, for the most part a short lived cosmological theory. With both Zeno of Tarus, and Cleanthes theorizing on Ekpyrosis in the third century B.C., and then Chrysippus expanding upon this soon after in the second century B.C., Ekpyrosis would begin to be abandoned all together by early Roman Stoics. A strong acceptance of Aristotle's theories of the universe combined with a more practical lifestyle practiced by the Roman people, caused these later Stoics to focus their main effort on their own social well being on earth, and not concentrate on the cosmos.

A prime example of this is the the prominent Stoic and Roman Emperor, Marcus Aurelius. In his personal writing Meditations, Marcus Aurelius chooses to discuss how one should act and live their life, rather than speculate on cosmological theories.

Notes:


 * Ekypyrosis seems to be a "hot topic" with many differing opinions, it is difficult to find clear and concise information on the topic that is not changed in someway to meet ones interpretations. While going into detail of the differences of beliefs between individuals is possible, it is important to note that the page topic is "Ekpyrosis" not "Stoics Depictions of Ekpyrosis." While these two may seem extremely similar it is important to form a basic foundation before diving into different interpretations of such an niche idea.
 * Most sources seem be someone analyzing an ancient scholar whom also was analyzing the idea of Ekpyrosis and the things surrounding it. Most first hand accounts seem to be in Greek unfortunately.

Review by K8shep (talk) 16:05, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
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Causes
(Drafted By Allec Uber)

There are three reason why this belief was taught by the Greeks. They come for the theories of Zeno and Cleanthes. The first being that the god of the universe keeps increasing in size making him have to absorb himself. Second reason is that the sun and stars burn so hot and bright that they dry out the universe. With every thing so dry it causes the universe to catch fire burning everything up. Zeno states that the fire the destroys the universe will not destroy the very thing that gives in life that this is the seas. His though was to fix this issue cause by the theory of elemental anathymiasis. So the fire would not destroy the sea. The third is that when the planets all return to there position from when the universe was first created it would also start the process of Ekpyrosis AllecUber (talk) 14:24, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

The cleansing of the universe was to help create a pure universe. The flames would destroy everything in the universe. Then every thing would be rebuilt in the exact same way in every detail before the fire. Then after so long it would happen again and again. This prosses was a infinite. AllecUber (talk) 14:24, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

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