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Thanks!!!
for your congratulations ) Although I still can't quite believe that we've done it... 2008 is a lucky year for Russia, at least in sports :) Alæxis¿question? 10:19, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Image:Rose Revolution in Georgia.jpg
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Abkhazia map
I think that UN map is POV, because article is named "Abkhazia", not "Apkhazeti". And it is traditional geographic name in english language. Bestalex (talk) 13:22, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Eristavi
Hello Kober

For your attention Eristavi family that become kaniaz in Russian Empire. see the russian wikipedia ru:Эристовы (дворянский род). Geagea (talk) 16:51, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Many thanks Kober. Geagea (talk) 17:05, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Printing house
In the article of Vakhtang VI of Kartli the first Printing house build by the king in 1712. But in the article of Anthim the Iberian it was him the builder in 1709. what is the correct? Geagea (talk) 18:40, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
 * more things:


 * 1. In the french wikipedia it mentioned that in the first period of ruling Kartli (1703-1711 or in 1711) Vakhtang makes code named "Dastourlamali". what it means and what is the correct name of the code?


 * 2. His persian name Hussayn Qouli Khan is not mentiond also.


 * 3. The son of Vakhtang, George, Prince of Georgia Build the churc of st. Giorgi in Moscow (Koptevo district) and the palace of Vakhtang is near to it see her. maybe it possible to find pic of the palace.


 * 4. According to this document (now in Georgian National Center of Manuscripts) in september 1722 50,000 georgians and armenians wait to the tzar and more 10,000 joined leater. by the article only 40,000 soldiers where there. Geagea (talk) 14:58, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Copyright problem report; question
Hi. On May 22nd, another editor reported an image you uploaded for copyright problems, here. I'm attempting to close out the issues listed on that day, but I'm having some trouble determining the situation with that one. I've asked for assistance clarifying the matter there. If you are able to supply further feedback to help close this issue, it would be appreciated. I am also asking the image's tagger to help clarify the matter. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 14:13, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

St. George's Armenian Apostolic Church, Tbilisi
Another thing. It si correct to link St. George's Armenian Apostolic Church, Tbilisi to ka:სურფგევორქი? is in Isani quarter? the memorial of April 9 tragedy standing near? Geagea (talk) 15:27, 24 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks Kober. about the size of the army 40,000 or 50,000 I but them both after different sources.


 * And more importent. you mention my work but you work is ten times bigger. You wrote most of the articles about Georgia in English (not the nativ language). This is the great job. Geagea (talk) 09:29, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

June 2008
You have been blocked from editing for in accordance with Wikipedia's blocking policy for violating the three-revert rule. Please be more careful to discuss controversial changes or seek dispute resolution rather than engaging in an edit war. If you believe this block is unjustified, you may contest the block by adding the text below. Per a complaint at WP:AN3. EdJohnston (talk) 20:29, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Reason:

I was reverting an ip/recently created account who was removing relevant information without any discussion on the talk page, ,. User:Pocopocopocopoco, who then reported me, decided to support that user, ignoring several references provided in the article. I tried to discuss the issue on the related talk page and provided a direct citation from the well-established source, but received no response. It should be noted that Pocopocopocopoco is particularly hostile toward me, persistently trying to get me blocked as evidenced here (even though the involved admin considered my edits legitimate). I'm currently working on the article which I have recently rewritten and hope to bring it to a featured article status. I'd like to ask the blocking admin to unblock me; I promise to discontinue editing the disputed article for the duration of the block and until the discussion, initiated by me and ignored by the opposing party, progresses.--KoberTalk 21:01, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I suggest that you familiarize yourself with the three-revert rule before you start editing again. You performed five reverts of three different editors in one hour.  They may have been wrong, but the only exception to 3RR is for "simple and obvious vandalism," which those edits weren't.  Therefore I find this block to be appropriate.  When you come back, remember that edit warring is bad and try to build consensus via the talk page or other dispute resolution techniques such as requests for comment.  Being "right" doesn't excuse edit warring, and that's what you were blocked for.  Happy editing upon your return, Oren0 (talk) 19:29, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

WP:SPP
I have posted here on the suggestion by the administrators at WP:ANI. Feel free to respond there when your block wears off. Pocopocopocopoco (talk) 05:03, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Harassment and Provocation
Kober, as soon as your block will be lifted, I suggest to notify administrators about the harassment and provocations which Proco has wages against you as per. I can also initiate the report, but it would be appropriate if you file it yourself. His harassment and provocations are in line with following statement by Wikipedia guidelines: ''When another user is having trouble due to editing conflicts or a dispute with another user it is inappropriate to provoke them as it is predictable that the situation will escalate. Provocation of a new or inexperienced user by an experienced and sophisticated user is especially inappropriate.'' His dubious previous check user attempts on you  which he also admits were unsuccessful  and current almost identical user check request which is based on no real concrete evidence  only suggests and indicated the blunt provocations against you and Papa Carlo. In fact, he has similarly initiated user check against me after heated debates on Abkhazia and has failed. You are onle of the most productive and important contributors to Wikipedia (Bravo on Queen Tamar article) and appropriate measures should be taken to protect you from obvious personal scrivener's of some user. Also please note his trend of appearing immediately after some dispute erupts on Abkhazia/Laz or other Georgian related articles. Iberieli (talk) 17:27, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

WB
Welcome back Kober, dont feel bad about Procos harassment and provocations. Important thing is that you are the most significant and hardworking contributor to Georgia related articles on Wiki for which you only deserve our admirations. Good luck on getting Tamar article feature status, it is an amazing work. მურამ ერთად ! Iberieli (talk) 16:41, 30 June 2008 (UTC)


 * p.s ეს იღვიძებს როცა აფხაზეთზეა კამათი, აბა ეხლა არაა ესა "სოკი" ან პროკოსი და ან ალექსასი? :) . Iberieli (talk) 21:16, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Shapur I and Mirian III
Kober, where did you find information that Miriam III was the son of Shapur I? If so we should include this info in Shapur I article. Is interesting how his son was a pro-Roman ruler of Iberia rather than pro Sassanian where his father reigned :) Iberieli (talk) 22:59, 30 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Kober here is a huge collection of historical articles about Georgia, but it might be true that he was a son of Shapur, as I know Miriam was Persian by birth. Iberieli (talk) 13:38, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Following is a quote from the book by Theodore Edward Dowling, Sketches of Georgian Church History, p 14: "The result of this cure was that the King, known by the name of Mirian, son of Shapour I, the first of the Sassanian dynasty (A.D. 265 318),......."Iberieli (talk) 19:45, 1 July 2008 (UTC)


 * as you can see that claim is confirmed by Dowling and also mentioned in Toumanoff (do you have his book?)

Following is a quote from the book by David Marshal Lang, The Georgians, p 95: "...Mirian (later canonized as St Mirian) the first Christian king of Georgia, was also the first ruler of the new Chosroid dynasty, who were themselves a branch of the Iranian Mihranids, one of the seven Great Houses of the Persian Empire."


 * its really confusing because Shapur I was Arsacid not Chosroid :) Iberieli (talk) 19:53, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Following is a quote from the book by David Bagrationi, Istoriya Gruzii, p. 79: "Mirian bil perviy Tsar Khosroyanskogo pokoleniya".


 * I dont know what to think any more :) Iberieli (talk) 19:58, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

kobik gamo skypze tu har netze :) Iberieli (talk) 20:20, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Kober, ამ რუქაზე რას ფიქრობ? მგონი არაზუსტია და აგერ მის გამკეთებელს ვკითხე. Iberieli (talk) 17:13, 3 July 2008 (UTC)