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DYK

 * Greetings Kober! Dont know if you remember me, but I was the one that created the Assyrians in Georgia page. Hope your doing good, just thought this article might interest you [] Chaldean 00:27, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Muchas gracias


Hey Kober, thanks a lot for supporting me in my recent RfA. It succeeded, and I am very grateful to all of you. If you ever need help with anything, please don't hesitate to ask. Also, feel free point out any mistakes I make! Thanks again, &mdash; Khoikhoi 04:40, 21 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Ah, well I am now. ;-) &mdash; Khoikhoi 05:11, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Mt. Ararat
How does one say "Mount Ararat" in Georgian? -- Clevelander 20:39, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Possibly unfree images
The following images have been listed at Possibly unfree images: Image:Sukhumi.jpg Image:Sokhumi3.jpg Image:Sokhumi1.jpg Image:New Athos Cathedral.jpg Image:Kodori1.jpg Image:Kodori2.jpg Image:Abkhazia UNOMIG map.JPG Image:Kodori3.jpg Thuresson 19:40, 23 October 2006 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry. I might have been mistaken when I tagged the images. Please delete them if necessary. --Kober 20:01, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Georgia-Russia
Hi, if Ghirlandajo continues his one-against all campaign (I've got the impression as of now), you may add a request for comment on his behaviour. Constanz - Talk 11:26, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

I'm really tired of his way of editing: using what probably qualifies as personal assaults, removing my legitimate tags/comments etc. If not already done by tomorrow, I'll add tomorrow a request myself, hopefully you'll second to it. I'll leave now, tired of Ghirla (and his supporters, who suggest I've been insulting Ghirla!Ha-ha!).Constanz - Talk 12:38, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Map of GSSR
I know I once promised this to you, still no luck with any digital technology, but look what I found. Should be enough. Also can you have a look at Russophobia and the Georgian section there. It is a hard article to keep neutral...--Kuban Cossack 13:18, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Various phobias
Hi Kober, as you are well aware yourself as a respectful citizen of Georgia and Wikipedian, certain lingering post-Soviet phobias (Caucasophobia comes to mind) have spilled onto this project. Another such shameful occurance is rearing its ugly head at Talk:Jogaila, where several Russian editors have recruited each other and formed an unholy, Polonophobic alliance to stamp out a King's name. Come take a look, and -prior to accustoming yourself with the argumentations of both sides- voice your humble opinion. Truthseeker 85.5 11:35, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Excellent
Kober, that looks pretty good. In addition, we could say something there about Shalikashvili's father, as I know he was also in Georgian forces at first. Sosomk 21:01, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
 * ამათ რაღა უნდათ? ირინა სარიშვილი პოლიტიკურ ზეწოლაზე საუბრობს :):):):):) [] Sosomk 21:23, 26 October 2006 (UTC)


 * I love that Georgian alphabet, it looks so exotic. I can't wait for Georgia to join the EU, so it will be on the front page of the website of the European Commission (www.europa.eu).--Tekleni 21:25, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Jorge de Bagration
I noticed that you reverted the recent edit showing that Salome Zurabishvili called for restoration of the monarchy in Georgia under the Bagrationi dynasty. Although the editor who added it to the article appears to be unreliable on non-royalty issues, the ITAR-Tass article he cited seems authentic. Yet you consider it rumor? Have you heard additional information about this, and is there a source for it? Or do you have reason to believe that the article is inaccurate? Lethiere 18:47, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Re Spasibo
No probem. I just wanted to express my naive opinion on the subject. (Igny 17:40, 30 October 2006 (UTC))

Armenia in Europe
I am a member of the AMA (Association of Members' Advocates) currently acting on behalf of User:Caligvla, who has named you as one of the participants in the dispute over whether Armenia is in Europe or Asia. Caligvla has listed a number of reference sources classifying Armenia as an Asian country. He claims that the only sources quoted by your side of the dispute are 1.) an obsecure Canadian website that places Armenia in Europe, and a BBC article that mistakenly places Armenia in Europe. Can you please respond to this and give your side of the argument (preferably on my userpage)? Under the AMA principle of audi alteram partem, you have the right to be heard. (NB Copies of this message have been placed on the talkpage of all those who Caligvla has named as participants in the dispute.) Walton monarchist89 09:26, 2 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Hi Kober, where did you move Georgian-Soviet War article??? Thanks.

See Red Army invasion of Georgia.

Hello
I was very impressed by this article Red Army invasion of Georgia. I usually keep up with the news from Post Soviet states and Georgia is definitely one the most unique of them and your president, Mr. Saakashvili published an article in Harvard Law Review about Georgia. I can email it to you if you are interested. Cheers! 192.240.93.66 19:08, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Re: Vandalism???
Of course it redirects, since you redirected it. However, I think it should be restored and the whole thing moved to a more neutral title. Call it a WP:RM if you like, rather than a merge, however the whole thing is that this article cannot remain in its current state because of a POV title. -- Grafikm  (AutoGRAF)  19:47, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Kober, I'm not saying you're right or wrong about the title. However, if someone suggest a merge and puts a tag on a page, one should not revert it on sight. If the discussion on the talk page shows indeed a consensus to not merge the page and instead leave it where it is, that's fine. However, simply reverting it is a bad idea... -- Grafikm  (AutoGRAF)  20:24, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Irakli Okruashvili
Thanks for updating Irakli Okruashvili. KazakhPol 20:22, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

My userbox
And hello to you too, Kober.

First of all, your accusation about me having some sort of anti-Georgian agenda is ludicrous. Do you make it against all the people who don't happen to share your views, or only I get that special privilege? The same goes for your beloved president. Disagreeing with his policies is not libel. Btw, I borrowed shamelessly stole this userbox from User:Dimts, who seems to be Danish. Why don't you harass him about his anti-Georgian agenda?..

Just wondering if you bothered to read the second part of the quote you gave me?

"using userpages to attack people or campaign for or against anything or anyone is a bad idea". Since you seem to be such an ardent supporter of this rule, why does your userpage feature these:



Óðinn 09:19, 12 November 2006 (UTC) Oh, wait, you did already... Never mind... Óðinn 09:41, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
 * "Why don't you harass him about his anti-Georgian agenda?.."
 * For you information, I also support independence of Transnistria and Nagorno-Karabkh as well. Regarding the userboxes: when you say that you oppose "aggressive separatism in Abkhazia and South Ossetia", do you not imply their leaders, primarily Kokoity and Bagapsh? And if so, what difference is there from my userbox? I could easily change mine to something like "This user opposes 'Georgia's aggressive attempts to subjugate Abkhazia and South Ossetia", so it's totally analogous to yours. However, I think that would be offensive. I don't attribute the properties of one politician to the whole country. And despite of what you might think of me, I don't consider all the Georgians to be a bunch of aggressive warmongers. Óðinn 10:23, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
 * As a matter of fact, I support the right for self-determination for every nation. And the Chechens had their referendum fairly recently in which they voted overwhelmingly in support of staying within the federation. I edit these particular articles because there was an unbalanced abundance of pro-Saakashvili contributors. Speaking of civility. It might behoove you to reconsider your knee-jerk reflex of accusing everyone critical of your government's policy of having the anti-Georgian agenda. If you don't like my userpage - make a formal complaint. Ta. Óðinn 11:06, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Hi Kober. I don't know a whole lot about what's appropriate for userboxes or not, so I suggest that you post something at WP:AN/I where you will most likely get a reply. I understand what you're saying however. Cheers, Khoikhoi 03:48, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
 * No problem. Nice work on the Red Army invasion of Georgia article by the way. I still don't get how your English can be better than mine. ;-) Cheers, Khoikhoi 05:27, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Kober, I share your position about the inlammatory content in the user space. You find the boxes that call for Georgia's partitioning offensive and inflammatory. You are correct, IMO. Would you please consider taking it also to this page whose owner has userboxes calling for partitioning of Russia, China and change of the political regime in Belarus? You might also be interested to read this thread. --Irpen 05:51, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Kober! Ahhh what a shame people like him live here near by here in Toronto. :) Leave him alone, it’s a best solution. Anti-Georgian hysterics are well known among the members of his community :) That other gentleman is as much Danish as I am heheh. What’s up my old friend? As Khoi mentioned I also don't understand how you write better English than me :) talented person, what can i say :) Keep up with the good work! Cheers. Best. Ldingley 22:21, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Here, thats what he wants and thats what he will get :)



What is the status with History of Abkhazia? Thanks Ldingley 17:23, 15 November 2006 (UTC)


 * LOL, Luis, don't worry about it. We will not subjugate Ossetia and Ossetians are our friends. The idea that Georgia is trying to provoke a conflict is a myth and is based on a false assumption. For example, my grandmother is from Kazbegi and she can speak pretty good Ossetian and unfortunately for the Toronto-based POV pushers they have nothing to say. The forces of moderation will be successful in the region and Ossetia will be a part of Georgia, like it has always been. SosoMK 04:14, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

BTW
If you ever want a good laugh, check this out. Zandweb has been going around leaving messages in Persian that I'm a pro-Gerogian POV-pusher! :-) Khoikhoi 06:17, 13 November 2006 (UTC)


 * haha, that is funny, what do the Persians want from Georgia? They used to come up with their 200 000 army and we kicked them out with our 30 000 militiamen. :) SosoMK 04:37, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Ossetian Uprising 1920
Concerning the article Georgian-Ossetian conflict (1918-1920): Did you read Avtandil Menteshashvili: Some national and ethnic problems in Georgia (1918-1922)? He has done a lot of research about South Ossetia in 1920. Best wishes Irakli D 21:27, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Arsen Kotsoyev
Maybe you are interested in this article. Kotsoyev was working in Georgia for 22 years (1890-1912). I put in a template because he was awarded a NKVD medal in 1939, one year after the Great Purge. Please feel free to comment on the talk page. -- Irakli D 10:03, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Your view to Moukhraneli - Romanov marriages' equalness
Are you familiar with the evidence in this case? Could you check a situation - where, in my opinion, certain persons are pushing towards POV that Georgian princes were not noble enough to marry Russians otherwise than as morganatic consorts. The most appalling thing is that one of them actually erased a reference to Genealogisches Handbuch des Adels, Fürstliche Häuser; in order to have an article where only the other reference (which happens to support that editor's POV) is displayed. They seem to defend uncited conclusions, such that they want to believe in. Contemporary evidence of course is conflicting, as are later treatises (because there exists precisely two contrary POVs). Shilkanni 14:51, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I see that I have been misrepresented to you. I do not believe that the Mukhraneli were dynastically unequal to the Romanovs, during or after the Russian Empire. I do believe that they were deemed legally unequal by Nicholas II in 1911. But that decision was reversed by Vladimir Kirilovich in 1948. Nicholas II made one decision, and Vladmir, in the claimed capacity as emperor de jure, made another -- and cited very specific research as the basis for that reversal. There are simply no sources that considered the 1911 marriage equal, and there is enormous evidence that it was not considered equal. This issue has been extensively discussed, but after the Frederiks Memo was published in the West in the late 1990s (it was an intra-dynastic communication, not published during the Empire), no serious historian any longer disputes that the Bagration-Mukhranskys held the same status as Rurikid and Gedyminian princes in pre-1918 Russia. Whether they should have been considereed as dynastically higher is a different discussion (I believe that they were unfairly treated by Russia in defiance of the Treaty of Georgievsk), but Wikipedia should reflect how the family was viewed then -- and now. Lethiere 07:36, 26 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Yes, actually, I have been aware of Sargis' article, among others. In my opinion, a bit too nationalistic, and pride-full, but not altogether too much. Mostly, good points. Of course, he paints his "favorite" dynasty more ancient than anything else, and uses overflowing words when speaking of things valuable in Georgia. And probably he attempts to elevate the rather ordinary fief of he Moukhraneli to ridiculous dimensions, including presentation of it as independent state. Bur when one knows to suspect the adjectives and usually halve them, the essay otherwise gives plenty of details useful to study.


 * Do you agree with the opinions presented by Sargis?


 * Could you check the diff and comment to its talkpage about he differences in text you see. Which of the versions is more NPOV? Shilkanni 15:59, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Moukhraneli

 * While I am at it, could you tell me how precise are certain allegations in the following (these are some points I have wanted to ask someone who knows Georgian local history and geography, too): "The Bagrations of Moukhrani, the branch of the dynasty from which Prince George Bagration and the Grand Duchess Maria descend, were in fact doubly royal. First they were a younger branch of the Georgian royal house. (They did not become the senior line until the twentieth century, when elder lines died out.) Second, they were also sovereigns of the Georgian principality of Moukhrani in their own right until 1801."
 * my question 1: Are Bagrations of Moukhrany well known for having been a branch of the Georgian royal house? or, is it less-well known? Did Georgian kings of 18th century regard them as possible heirs of king's kingdom and power, or were they just some of numerous relatives of the king that everyone has in some corners? or, were they possibly regarded rather regular nobles, such as Chavchavadze, Djordzjadze, Dadiani?
 * my question 2: Was their land of Moukhrany a really independent (i.e, sovereign) rulership, or were they under king's commands in some way? And, how big was the land of Moukhrany they held: was it the size of today Luxembourg, or of today Monaco, or size of a bunch of farms that together form a typical manor? of size of a village with its farmlands? Had the land of Moukhrany several towns under its power? or one town? or possibly no town? (I believe they at least had a namesake castle)

Do you have information to give answers to my above detailed two questions? Would be glad if you can assist... Shilkanni 18:48, 25 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your reply, those details will help and probably only a local could have given the information with that local insight. I am going to continue by digging up some comparisons with some by-branches of Western dynasties. Thank you for help. Shilkanni 00:05, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Soso
გაუმარჯოს კობერ, რავა ხარ ჯიგარო? რამე ახალ სტატიაზე ხომ არ მუშაობ? გილოცავ გიორგობას მოგვიანებით, მრავალს დაესწარი. SosoMK 22:44, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
 * კობერ, მეც არ მაქვს ბევრი დრო მაგრამ ხანდახან შემოვდივარ ხოლმე. კაი ქენი ფშავის სტატია ხევსურეთიდან რომ გამოყავი და კარგი იკნება თუ მთიულეთზე დავამატებთ რამეს. კიდევ მაინტერებდა ფშავის სტატიაზე ლინკი რომაა, როგორ ფიკრობს გეოგრაფიულად სწორია? თუ გგონი რომ რუკა მაგ ვებ საიტზე კარგია, მაშინ ფოტოშოპით ვეცდები რომ საქართველოს ისტორიული რეგიონები გამოვკვეთო. მაგალითად,[] ესეთი რამე მინდა რომ გავაკეთო. მაგრად SosoMK 04:20, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
 * madlobt Kober, vapshe gamiadvile sakme mag rukit. ardadegebi or kvirashi meckeba: es kvira scavla makvs da ikita kvira gamocdebi, vnaxot aba ert ras vizam. SosoMK 04:32, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Kober, gtxov gaakete komentari ras pikrob? Talk:Alexander Chavchavadze SosoMK 03:26, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Georgian Legion
გაუმარჯოს კობერ, i ask some q her Talk:Georgian Legion, may be you know the answers? Geagea 23:37, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Sanakoev
Hi Kober, can you please write a short bio of Dmitri Sanakoev? Also The Salvation Union of South Ossetia. Thanks Ldingley 16:12, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Tao-Klarjeti
gamarjoba kober, rogor xar? Thanks for your kind words. I will try a comeback in the near future. Sofie 18:19, 5 December 2006

Yes I did Kober and now working on my new research in Classical studies. I'll tell you more via email. How are things? I just read your email, sorry for not answering yet. How are your studies? Ldingley 19:00, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Georgia categories
I am not involved in the conversation. My tagging was process-needed, as the nominator forgot to do it (and I did notice a few silly ones, but it was not my job, nor really my interest to contest them). I suggest you voice your concern at the nomination section. Circeus 05:31, 10 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Dear Kober, what do you think about Colchis? Does it need any additional info or editing? Also see Iberia. Thanks. Ldingley 17:48, 12 December 2006 (UTC)


 * p.s new archeological find at Troy suggest that Colchians traided with the city in the 13 century B.C. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ldingley (talk • contribs) 17:50, 12 December 2006 (UTC).


 * Kober, go here Ldingley 20:56, 12 December 2006 (UTC)


 * here Talk:AbkhaziaLdingley 17:21, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Military of Georgia
hello kober

I belive the militery flag of georgia is the battle flag Talk:Military of Georgia. Geagea 01:59, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Image:Adjarafolklore5.jpg
In Georgia are not public domain). Otherwise this picture may be deleted by some copyright warriors. `'mikkanarxi 02:36, 14 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for calling that to my attention. My mistake; not all the works by the Govt of Georgia are in PD. I have contacted the website whence the photo was taken and asked about its copyright status. I’m still waiting for their reply.--Kober 06:33, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Gamarjoba
Dear Dr. Koberidze, I will add the maps tomorrow. I hope everything is going great with you. SosoMK 20:08, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Dr. Koberidze, gamocdebma kargad chaiara, xom ici Kartvelebi nichieri xalxi vart. rukebi davamtavre da chem gverdze davdeUser:Sosomk kvela da nel-nela chavurtot statiebshi. Jer Kakhetis statiidan davicke da infobox i shevcvale. SosoMK 20:21, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

History of Georgia
Dear Kober, the article History of Georgia (country) needs some serious modifications and additional historic data (especially medieval Georgia and her Golden age). With the help of Dr Andersen, I added some vital information to expend the section of Georgian antiquity. However, the article should be further expanded in the sections of Medieval History (Georgia's golden age) and Russian Annexation. When you find time, please add additional info in the article. Where on earth did you find so much info and sources on August Uprising? You don't fail to amaze me. Keep it up. Cheers. Ldingley 21:05, 19 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Hello Kober. I belive that thiere is a place for article about "The United Georgian Kingdom" (ერთიანი საქართველოს სამეფო‏). And I agree with User:Ldingley that you have very importent articles. Geagea 21:48, 19 December 2006 (UTC)


 * BTW Kober here is the list of The Georgian bureau and national committee in Berlin 1930s, 40s:


 * The head (leader)
 * Till 1939 - Prince Kote Abkhazi
 * Since 1939 - doctor Akhmeteli


 * The Georgian national committee:


 * The leader


 * 1940 - Aleksander Asatiani
 * Then - Spiridon Chavchavadze


 * Thank you guys, the Medieval Georgia/United Kingdom of Georgia, etc. articles will be my next project, I believe. I need some more time though.--Kober 04:17, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Merry Christmas
Hi Kober! I just want to say Merry Christmas to you! Have a nice holiday time. If you don't observe this event then I hope you don't mind this greeting. :) - Darwinek 11:20, 22 December 2006 (UTC)



Kober, please review Template:Historic capitals of Georgia. Thanks. Ldingley 20:29, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Merry Christmas
I know it's not January yet but I assume you live in the West as well. Can you please proofread Alexander Mantashev. Thanks.--  Ευπάτωρ   Talk!! 22:07, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

I wish you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. Geagea 04:16, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Untagged image
An image you uploaded, Image:Tiflis COA.jpg, was tagged with the coatofarms copyright tag. This tag was deleted because it does not actually specify the copyright status of the image. The image may need a more accurate copyright tag, or it may need to be deleted. If the image portrays a seal or emblem, it should be tagged as seal. If you have any questions, ask them at Media copyright questions. -- 13:14, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Happy New Year!
Hi Kober. Thank you very much. I wish you too happy New Year and success in the new year. Regards, Grandmaster 09:46, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

stub
Please have your say Stub types for deletion/Log/2007/January/8. Thanks. Ldingley 15:19, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Great job on George XII of Georgia. Where did you find the sample of Shah's threat to George? The article is just great and it was long due. Many thanks Kober. Ldingley 17:04, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

St Nino
Kober, we desperately need help here Saint Nino. The only scholarly book I know about the subject is by Wardrop, Margery. Life of Saint Nino Ldingley 05:05, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

ვიკიპედიელების შეხვედრა
მოგესალმებით, ქართული ვიკიპედიის წევრებს დაგეგმილი გვაქვს შეხვედრა, გთხოვთ ჩაერთოთ დისკუსიაში და დააფიქსიროთ თქვენი პოზიცია. იმედია საქართველოში იმყოფებით.

http://ka.wikipedia.org/wiki/ვიკიპედია:ყავახანა

პატივისცემით, GioMac —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 213.157.202.52 (talk) 12:27, 15 January 2007 (UTC).

Hey
Hey Kober, have you seen this?: Articles for deletion/Ottoman Muslim casualties of World War I -- Clevelander 22:46, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Kobi you here? Ldingley 19:38, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Kober use this for History Ldingley 19:50, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

''This Georgian history-related article is a stub. You can help by [ expanding it]''.
 * Please note that this template has been nominated for deletion. Only five pages used it, two of which are not stubs, two of which are already covered by Georgia-bio-stub (since they were about people, not historical events), and your talk page! What's more, Georgia-stub has only 100 articles in it, not enough to currently require splitting, and both the new template and category are incorrectly named according to stub naming guidelines. Grutness...wha?  02:00, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Georgians
Kober, have a look at the Georgians article. User:Parishan claims that the historic Georgian region of Saingilo is a "20th century invention". -- Aivazovsky 01:11, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Also see the Saingilo article for more of Parishan's latest additions. -- Aivazovsky 01:12, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

ქართველს სიცოცხლე!

გაგახარა ღმერთმა, დამღალეს ამათ უკვე, თანაც ჩემი დანგრეული ინგლისურით ძლივს რაღაცას ვწვალობ... იქნებ ნახო ბოლოს რა დავწერე ქართველი ისტორიკოსის მიერ სტატიის შედგენაზე?--Gnome(G) 12:23, 21 January 2007 (UTC)


 * აბა დროებით...და კიდევ, მემგონი ამ სტატიაზე ტყუილად წვალობ, წაგიშლიან...მაგრამ ამას თუ დაამთავრებ ქართულ ვიკიზე გავაკეთოთ ინგლისურად და შემდეგ სათითაოდ დავაგზავნოთ ბმულები ინგლისურ ვიკიპედიაზე, კარგს იზავ დეზინფორმაციაზეც თუ დაწერ რამეს, დიდი სიამოვნებით დაგეხმარებოდი მარა ჩემ ინგლისურს მე ძლივს ვიგებ :))) დროებით --Gnome(G) 12:54, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

FSU Metro Project
Remember what I said about my ambition to make my Metro obsession to expand to Tbilisi Metro, well here you can support us, and let the article get much needed attention...--Kuban Cossack 23:54, 21 January 2007 (UTC)


 * It's ready...please join! --Kuban Cossack 14:21, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Tamar of Geogria
Need for expansion Tamar of Georgia. Ldingley 15:54, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Please review Template:Georgian statehood. Thanks. Ldingley 20:05, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Here we go again . Ldingley 21:28, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Caucasian peoples
Hey Kober, I was wondering if you could help me with something. Check out my conversation with Tombseye:

[snip] I just moved Caucasian peoples to Peoples of the Caucasus, as no one replied to my comments on the talk page from months ago. Basically, one would assume that "Caucasian peoples" means "people that speak Caucasian languages" (excluding the Altaic, and Indo-European languages). However, in addition to listing "Peoples speaking Caucasian languages", the article also featured "Peoples speaking Altaic languages", and "Peoples speaking Indo-European languages". That's why I decided to move the page. Problem is, shouldn't there be an article about the people that speak the Caucasian languages? (like the Lezgins, Dargins, etc.) There's only a page called Languages of the Caucasus, which of lists the non-Caucasian languages as well. An additional problem is that the Peoples of the Caucasus article is mostly unreferenced, so I'm not sure what the most common meaning of Caucasian peoples really is. Perhaps you could help? Thanks, Khoikhoi 03:47, 23 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Yikes, I don't know how to fix this problem exactly re:Caucasian peoples. It looks like we might have to either make separate articles, one that keeps the Peoples of the Caucasus and one for Caucasian peoples OR just eliminate the part that includes the Armenians and Azeris OR leave it as is and just expand Caucasian languages to include the people. Encyclopedia Britannica denotes Caucasian peoples as referring to ALL the people of the Caucasus for example including Armenians, Azeris, and Ossetians. What do you think? I guess given the precedent we've set with Iranian peoples, Germanic, Slavic etc. the way to go would be Caucasian peoples. Let me know what you think and we'll go from there. [snip] Tombseye 05:51, 23 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Britannica doesn't really make it clear if it's talking about all peoples of the Caucasus, or just the people speaking the Caucasian languages (it just says they live there, which applies to both). I think if we're going to make the article just about the latter definition, we'll have to find reliable sources supporting this. [snip] Khoikhoi 06:21, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Can you think of any good solution for this? Do you have sources that define "Caucasian peoples"? It would be great if you could add some comments on the talk page. Thanks, Khoikhoi 05:02, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Abkhaz
Please review Abkhazian SSR. Thanks Ldingley 17:15, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Tbilisi
Dear friend Kober, I hope everything is going great with you. I edited the head section of Tbilisi article, but the tourist destinations need a little help. Reagards, SosoMK 20:24, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Abkhazia
thanks for your good work on that article, I sometimes participate but not very frequently, it is something I am very interested in but I dont yet know enough about it really. I will try to learn during February so I can help more with the edits Pernambuco 02:05, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Thank you!
Dear friend Kober, thank you so much for the award. I really appreciate it. How have you been? SosoMK 17:58, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Editing pages on Georgia
Hi Kober,

I am trying to find what I can of scholarly sources for these pages. Let me know what you find out. The DAI page at here mentions some of the folks at University Tbilisi, Lewan Tshabashvili, Eliso Bagaturia, Irma Berzenishvili, Joni Abuladze and Dimitri Jovania. They might be of some help. I have a friend in Tblisi who is an archeology student and has worked at the Dmanisi site. I will try to dig up references from him.

I live on the Kapiti Coast in New Zealand. I get to Georgia every few years. I am a friend of Archbishop (Meope?) Nikoloz and the American Monk, Mama Theodore Niklasson, David Odzelashvili (works for the American Embassy) and Professor Nana Danelia (University of Tblisi), all who live in Tblisi.

I would like to get the Georgian collection on Wikipedia up to Featured Article status. A note: The writing style non-native speakers of Engish and those native speakers with insufficient exposure to academic writing often gets judged by USA or British academic standards on Wikipedia. Expressions that seem informal and very generalised get gigged for being inappropriate in register and style. It is a cultural thing and we can sort out the language. I have written in academic social science publications for some time and have a fair grasp of the requirements.

I am doing research for articles on education in Georgia, wine, religion and politics. These may also be good points of departure for related articles.

Get in touch. My email is malangthon@xtra.co.nz.

With my compliments, Malangthon 00:51, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Hi Kober,

Been busy and only just saw your message from 5 days ago. Can we get a dialogue going via email to sort out priorities and resources? Malangthon 03:06, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

batumi
Hello Kober

this sentense was written by User:Satanovski:

"in accordance with Treaty of San Stefano beween Russia and the Ottoman Empire (ratified on March 23). Instead, accordingly to Secret Anglo-Ottoman agreement, Ottomans were to be allowed to occupy Cyprus - "Cuprum probatum". "

Can you verify it? Geagea 21:39, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Question
Hey Kober, what do you think of Treemother's comment at Talk:Georgians? I still think we should have Laz in the "Related ethnic groups" field. Khoikhoi 07:59, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Qazakh
Thanks for helping but it seems that AdilBaguirov and Dacy69 completely ignored you. They still claim that Andersen "is not authoritative scholar on the issue" and that "his writing is available only at an amateur website." Do you have anything up your sleeve that can change their perception of the guy? -- Aivazovsky 23:57, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Hello!
Hi Kober and thank you for your warm welcome. I look forward to working with you to make the Georgia articles shine! --Treemother199 00:44, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Bagramyan Battalion
Another editor (whose name I forget) has suggested that this is a terrorist organization on the talkpage. I really no nothing about either this organization or about the conflict it was involved in, so I cant really comment with any authority, but you seem to have some knowledge regarding the general subject. Please comment on the talkpage. Regards, KazakhPol 18:57, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Machabeli
Kober, do you have any info on Prince Ivane Machabeli? Thanks Ldingley 22:55, 11 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Try her. Geagea 10:49, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Unspecified source for Image:Bolnisi inscription.jpg
Thanks for uploading Image:Bolnisi inscription.jpg. I noticed that the file's description page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is unclear. If you did not create this file yourself, then you will need to specify the owner of the copyright. If you obtained it from a website, then a link to the website from which it was taken, together with a restatement of that website's terms of use of its content, is usually sufficient information. However, if the copyright holder is different from the website's publisher, then their copyright should also be acknowledged.

As well as adding the source, please add a proper copyright licensing tag if the file doesn't have one already. If you created/took the picture, audio, or video then the GFDL-self tag can be used to release it under the GFDL. If you believe the media meets the criteria at Fair use, use a tag such as or one of the other tags listed at Image copyright tags. See Image copyright tags for the full list of copyright tags that you can use.

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Qazakh again
Kober, could you check the discussion page on the Qazakh article? Andrew Andersen's credibility is under fire. -- Aivazovsky 21:23, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Check your e-mail for my response. -- Aivazovsky 11:53, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Darial Gorge
Gamarjoba kober. Can you see Talk:Darial Gorge. Geagea 00:17, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Another few things
1. The Republic of Batumi - Batum under British occupation 1919-1920, is also article that mising. see Postage stamps of Batum under British occupation and also hebrew wiki.

2. I have been asked information about the bilding of Parliament of Georgia. when it bild ect. maybe you have reference about it.

3. We have Egrisi or Lazica and we have Lazistan. In the Turkish wiki thiere is a Lazika (ლაზიკა) and Egrisi and Lazistan, they make a difference between "Egrisi" and "Lazica".

4. The Georgian mythology need big help.

Geagea 01:10, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Ibero-Caucasian peoples
Dear Kober, thanks a lot for Machabeli article. It was much needed. When you have time, please help me on Ibero-Caucasian peoples article. So far i found many references in D.Lang's book, Georgians. Many thanks. Ldingley 22:30, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Georgia (country)
Hi Kober - This article is also on my watchlist... so I got your note in the Edit Summary. Sorry if you felt you were holding off vandals single-handedly and thanks for your work. I've gone and given the three IPs you reverted "vandalism2" warnings. Hope the vandalism slows down (too much to wish for it to stop). Cheers, Figma 18:58, 17 February 2007 (UTC)