User:LuciferMorgan/Archive 10

Slayer Discography
I think you mentioned somewhere it could become a featured list. I was wondering how it could become one, like whats required, what needs to be added etc etc. If it wasn't you sorry to bother you. M3tal H3ad 05:16, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Incase you forgot :) M3tal H3ad 11:36, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
 * So, remove the "Label" column and write a paragraph about the label at the top of the label section.
 * Remove the peak, certification, release date columns, and write a paragraph about the album with those things and a bit more info?
 * Move the singles, and other appearances to an article called something else
 * So it's basically a picture of the cover and a short description with the albums split into their label sections? M3tal H3ad 09:54, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Christ Illusion
It's featured :) Congrats. &mdash; Deckiller 06:07, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Congrats x 2, very nice work :) M3tal H3ad 06:28, 9 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Well done, good work! Angmering 15:27, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Excellent mate. Didn't know you had an FAC running. Don't forget to put the featured star on the article and please, folks, leave it for Lucifer to do! He should have the honour of placing the tag :) --kingboyk 16:06, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks everyone, and thanks for all those who helped in bringing the article to FAC. In reply to Kingboyk (congrats on KLF being main page btw), nope I didn't inform people of the FAC as I thought it may be seen as trying to encourage support for the article - I wouldn't want to be seen doing that! So yeah, it feels kinda cool to have my first FA (which all you have already had the honour of). It makes me feel like I know what I'm speaking of when reviewing others articles now :) LuciferMorgan 20:51, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
 * It's well a deserved feeling, I'm sure ;) Ceoil 21:06, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Good man. The first one is the hardest, I think, so keep em coming won't you. --kingboyk 23:36, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Hopefully. Sometimes I find certain editors detrimental when trying to improve an article - the Metal articles have a bad habit of having people who protect them and revert good edits, keeping the cruft in. Right now I'm looking at getting "Eyes of the Insane" to GA (currently at peer review, so feel free to take a look. LuciferMorgan 23:39, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

WBFAN corrections
Hi - Thanks for making the corrections to WP:WBFAN, however like it says in the comment the list is automatically generated from the lists at (for example) Featured articles nominated in 2004. I've updated the 2004 and 2006 lists so your corrections won't be undone the next time the WBFAN page is regenerated. -- Rick Block (talk) 17:01, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Brian Epstein
Thank you, LuciferMorgan, as always. andreasegde 21:01, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

"Removing links per..."
Hey. I noticed you have been removing external links to Encyclopaedia Metallum and Rockdetector "per Verifiability". However, WP:V was not the external links guideline, as that is External links. I wrote "was", because WP:V has recently been superseded by Attribution. If links to websites that contain user-submitted content were not allowed, you should put Discogs artist, Last.fm, Metallum, et cetera, to Tfd. But as far as I know, WP:EL does not prevent from linking to them. Also, Slayer references from Rockdetector 15 times and it was promoted to FA, so if you consider this website a poor source you should probably start from that article. Thanks, Prolog 12:17, 12 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your reply. Of course, I agree that Encyclopaedia Metallum is far from a good source, but information on bands' official websites should not always be considered reliable either. It's great that WP:HMM finally has the assessment department, so thanks for your work with it. I've seen your assessments pop up on my watchlist, and I hope I have some time to help out with that. The high number of mediocre stubs is probably due to many things; articles are often created by new users and/or non-native English speakers, lack of reliable sources and enough non-trivial coverage for non-mainstream bands, very different interests in bands and genres, et cetera. I know I as a non-native English speaker do not have the best prose in this language, so it makes more sense to concentrate on stub/start class articles. Christ Illusion is very impressive indeed. I've only done one very large expansion, but what made me gave up on Beherit and GA was the lack of reliable information available. Still, there are dozens of metal bands that have more than enough coverage, so there definitely is work to be done. Prolog 17:35, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

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WikiProject Backpacking
Hi, I saw that you seem to be editing this sort of thing, glad to have you aboard. Please sign your name on the project page if you'd like to officially join, and add the category Category:Members of WikiProject Backpacking or the user box to your user page. Thanks again! -Leif902 19:47, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Hmm??? LuciferMorgan 19:48, 14 March 2007 (UTC) Backpacking? In an enyclopedia? Can't see there being many articles. (BTW, outside N America backpacking means international travel on a shoestring budget). --kingboyk 13:40, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

It's odd why I got invited... all I did was make an FAR notification. LuciferMorgan 14:39, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
 * How's the backpacking Lucifer :) M3tal H3ad 08:44, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Irish phonology
Hi, I've done a lot of rewriting of Irish phonology to address your concerns that it was too listy. Please take a look and let me know what you think at Featured article candidates/Irish phonology. —Angr 19:54, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Jihad
It's B alright, Ceoil has uploaded music before so maybe ask him. I have no idea about the .ogg format. M3tal H3ad 07:46, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Re: Kingbotk request (Completed by Reedy Bot)
This was completed overnight. Edits, and the Logs

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GA
We seem to keep bumping into each other on the review page! Good luck with yours, as always. andreasegde 19:52, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Eyes of the Insane
The article looks good to me, I didn't see any problems with it at all. I would pass it but I'm trying to finish off the February and early March nominees, and don't want people to get upset with reviewing later articles. Good job so far, and I hope it does make FA. --Nehrams2020 00:28, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

knock knock
Heya, long time no chat. Today is the last weekday of spring break. I've been puttering around on Wikipedia a little bit recently, but that will probably end again after today or perhaps this weekend. How have you been? Are you a lone voice at FAR? How is your attitude toward Wikipedia holding up? Etc. Later, --Ling.Nut 20:38, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Slayer FACs
Hey, I see on Metalheads talk you are thinking of bringing South of Heaven to GA. My openion is that both "Eyes of the Insane" and "Angel of Death" are close to FA standard, lets work on those, and then bring SOH forward. Ceoil 18:18, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't see the fact that "Eyes of the Insane" is a recent release as a problem. To be honest, is much more going to be written about the song? ;) Re: Jihad, would be happy to take a look. Ceoil 18:31, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't read the metal press anymore, so I'm unlikely to add content. Outside of the beatles articles there is little precedent for FAs on indivdual songs, but seeing as both these articles are comprehensive in that, well what else do you say, I would favour FAC, for both. Ceoil 19:01, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
 * No problem. Ceoil 19:22, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Fine, although its unlikely to be an issue. Note however that I signed up to the Slayer project last week, so my contributions are no longer favours. You and Metalhead are doing great work, and I'm happy to help out when I can. Ceoil 21:06, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks Lucifer, I have a large mp3 collection, any other files you want added, just ask. Ceoil 21:12, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Tenacious D
Thanks for the feedback about the song samples. I changed em and made them both 15s long. Would you consider changing your oppose vote? Tenacious D Fan (talk) 22:01, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Christ Illusion
I just copied and pasted the lead, re-worded it slightly, changed a few minor things and Deckiller was kind enough to give it a ce. I removed the songs as they would always be stubs, and i agree with you on the big 4 project, much like the trivium and gwar one. M3tal H3ad 06:41, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Nice work on SOH btw, it's ready for GA i think - the back cover needs a source though. M3tal H3ad 08:42, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I nominated it for FAC, gave it a ce and changed the sample to 28 seconds, thanks for that. M3tal H3ad 08:05, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

"The Magnificent" DYK

 * That's okay - thanks. I was going by the size of the Justified and Ancient DYK entry, but I was fully prepared to trim if required. :) --Vinoir 18:34, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Heavy metal FAC
Can you do something towards expanding the thrash section of the article? thanks. Its a bit underdeveloped at the moment. Ceoil 19:09, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Your edit to Michaelas10's RfA
Hi LuciferMorgan! Noticed you supported the RfA, but placed your support in the neutral section. Could you fix that up? Otherwise the bot which maintains the RfA tally doesn't catch it. Also, instead of using a * in front, which gives you a bullet point, you should use a #, which puts your comment into the numbered list. Thanks :) – Riana ঋ 14:57, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Stub removal and categorization
Every article should always be in a category. So if you remove an article from a category, you should make sure that there is a remaining category or add it to one. You removed a stub tag from Abysmal Crucifix which had the effect of removing its last category and leaving it uncategorized. Please be more careful in the future. I put it into Category:American heavy metal musical groups. I hope that that is the correct category for it. JRSpriggs 06:39, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Bal-Sagoth
OK, since there are other musical groups that have WPBiography templates, I gave the article a rating. Personally, though, I'm comming out against the whole idea of including musical groups in a biography project. Biographies are about individuals - not groups, companies or other collectives. The article got a weak B. It is in dire need of references, but it's well written and structured. - Duribald 10:14, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Slayer Discography
Took awhile but i formatted the albums and DVD's, should i do now, and thanks for the AOD references :) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by M3tal H3ad (talk • contribs) 10:19, 21 March 2007 (UTC).
 * I think I'm done, i re-uploaded all the images to under 300x300 to meet fair use, added rationales, source, added some paragraphs, added live albums. I do have two questions though, if the album didn't chart or has no certification should i just put N/A or leave it blank? Should i add a brief paragraph for every album, problem with this is i don't know what to write about. Thanks for your help, it looks awesome now. :) M3tal H3ad 12:30, 22 March 2007 (UTC) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by M3tal H3ad (talk • contribs) 12:04, 22 March 2007 (UTC).
 * A question - Won't people object because of the "no pictures in discography's" crap (although all dicussion about it is in the band article not the discography article) - And what would i write for these intros :O. M3tal H3ad 11:23, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Is a list of soundtrack appearances, with references good enough? or just unique songs in the old list? M3tal H3ad 12:01, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Last push for the Biography Assessment Drive
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Mayan languages
Hi we have been doing extensive work over at Mayan languages: the article has been thoroughly copyedited (also for prose-style), reformatted and referenced. I hope you will have a second look at it and that it will causre you to reconsider your stance in ita FA-nomination.·Maunus· · ƛ · 09:24, 22 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I've had a look and still stand by my objection, though congratulations on partially addressing my concerns. LuciferMorgan 23:15, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Celestiial
Hey there, you recently rated this article as 'start' class. I honestly can't see what it is lacking- there is discussion of the band's history, the history of its sole member, a look at its releases, a look at notable events involving this band and an in-depth discussion of musical style. What is there that could be added? This isn't a criticism of your assessment, this is a request for reccomendations on how to improve it! J Milburn 20:19, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the input. I realise that it is far too short, but it is hard to find much on the band. The link you gave me cannot be used as a source, the fact it is hosted on geocities and not, as far as I can see, 'official' to anyone (please correct me if I am wrong) means that it would be counted as unreliable. However, I have found this, which would be counted as reliable, and is bursting with info! I will add anything relevent from that, and have a look for a few others. Thanks for the input, I'll drop you a line when I have it up to a better standard. J Milburn 21:03, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Ok, I have seriously expanded it. Think you could give me some feedback? J Milburn 14:21, 2 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks a lot for the input. The Desolate North section will need some work, I need to seperate the general information on the music of the band from the section specifically talking about the album. I don't understand what you mean by Right now it seems like a generalised description of the music as opposed to a description of the writing. So could you please clarify that for me? I will expand the infobox a little, if I can. I'll also work on the POV issue, and I have information on the recording of the album, I'll add that in too. I prefer working on obscure bands, to be honest, but if there is anything in particular that you think you could do with another pair of eyes on, I would be more than happy to help. J Milburn 16:26, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Alas, there are no more interviews. Since starting to write the article, I have been contacted by Tanner Anderson, and, after an e-mail to the record label, I realised it was him. He has been very helpful indeed, but told me that there were only the two interviews available, one of which is unreliable. Shame, really. I have an abundance of reviews, but not much else. I'll get in contact with those other editors later today, thanks ever so much for your help. Feel free to call on me if you need anything. J Milburn 16:45, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Wouldn't want my last message to you to be wrong- it seems that there was another interview. Showed me. Happy editing! J Milburn 17:34, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
 * As I say, I am in contact with Tanner, and he seems like a genuinly great guy. If you have a way to get the interviews published, it may well be worth trying to arrange an interview between the two of you! That would certainly enable us to get all the info we need! J Milburn 17:42, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Of course! That came to me a few weeks ago, but I had forgotton about it. Thanks for reminding me, I'll e-mail him now. J Milburn 18:19, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Angel of Death
With many thanks to you for your feedback :) Lombardo next? M3tal H3ad 07:40, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Eyes of the insane is on hold :) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by M3tal H3ad M3tal H3ad 08:13, 27 March 2007 (UTC)(talk • contribs) 08:13, 27 March 2007 (UTC).
 * He's a good reviewer, and raised some valid points (track length is missing in the infobox) and hey at least it wasn't failed for "refs having too many numbers", "date are not formatted (when they are) and whatever the other thing was from the Still Reigning review >_> (which got promoted today :D). M3tal H3ad 08:20, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Well Eternal Pyre was called an EP although it is the length of a single, but the previous single is "Bloodline". O and do you have photoshop? i found a decent picture of Dave under a CC-SA license but it's on a 45* angle and i don't have the software to rotate it (http://www.flickr.com/photos/elisfanclub/364238503/).M3tal H3ad 08:58, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't think i told you this, but only 15 days until Slayer + Mastodon :D M3tal H3ad 12:25, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Cool. I saw Slayer on October 30th last year, and Mastodon when they supported Tool in the November time. LuciferMorgan 13:37, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
 * 13 to go :D, anyway this may sound strange, but if you have the time could you like review Slayer - references needed where? info that you think should be added? prose issues? anything. You haven't said much about it, i guess because it's an FA now but there's probably quite a lot of things which could be made better, don't hold back :D. M3tal H3ad 07:41, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Without trying to sound cheeky, I think other Slayer related articles warrant more attention than the flagship one at present. I can't notice anything wrong with it, though check Music samples. As concerns prose, message Tony1 and he'll scan it for you - if he's fine with the prose then you have a decent article. Usually though he opens a can of worms, and usually justly so. LuciferMorgan 00:55, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I see your point, I'll work on some articles this weekend and Haunting the Chapel is up for GA. M3tal H3ad 12:55, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Done, This may help expand the music and structure for jihad Once again, we don´t over-think things. Ten percent of my leads are done in the studio and the rest I´ve done in my hotel room, working on it, working on it, working on it. Then I show up in the studio shouting “Quick, record it, I think I´ve got it!” It´s just spontaneous a lot of it. M3tal H3ad 07:26, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
 * What inspired you to come up with such melodic leads for this album?
 * Hell Awaits is basically finished, still looking for a good source for the COF cover, good thing that exclusive oral history exists :), i must order a copy.. (articles that aren't mentioned in it are crap) M3tal H3ad 08:13, 4 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Wouldn't work as Hanneman is being very general, and speaking about the album as a whole. Thanks anyway though. LuciferMorgan 08:12, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I just checked "Hell Awaits" and you haven't used the official bio as a cite anywhere, so it definitely isn't done yet. That thing worked good for me for SOH, so should work good for HA. LuciferMorgan 08:15, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
 * The official site bio? it's inaccurate crap the first line "The band was originally known as Dragonslayer before shortening its name to Slayer" isn't even true and it hasn't been updated in months. But I'll add the info about the backwards "join us" with an MTV source when i get back from my guitar lesson (bye :) M3tal H3ad 08:20, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
 * You sure it isn't true? Hmm... yeah it hasn't been updated in a few months but I still used it for SOH. To avoid POV, I said "According to Slayer's official biography..." LuciferMorgan 08:23, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Yep, in this interview with King first video and it's the first question "Do you remember how you came up with the name DragonSlayer" - "We never did, it's a myth to this day". And you should nominate SOH asap with ze current backlog it will take awhile. M3tal H3ad 09:40, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Really? It's odd then that even their official bio has the same lie - a bad biographer. I don't think SOH would pass based on the fact I can't find info on lyrical content etc., but I'll nominate none the less. LuciferMorgan 17:22, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I won't nominate yet though until I've done the lead properly. LuciferMorgan 17:28, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I'll add the dragonslayer thing in the slayer article now. I could assess articles if you want, it's not hard to do in the metal genre, basically either a stub or a start. It's quite pathetic out of 3000+ articles you tagged there was one GA, and you wrote it :O. I don't see lyrical content as a way to fail SOH, although the All music guide review has "For other bands, focusing on death, Satanism, the supernatural, and the occult became a cliché; but Slayer's controversial reflections on evil always came across as honest and heartfelt" and the Rollingstone "Slayer, a depraved lot given to creepy ramblings about blood sacrifice and rotting flesh." could use a one sentence mention. M3tal H3ad 02:24, 5 April 2007 (UTC)