User:LukeEmily/reference

This page is a collection of consensuses made by senior Wikipedia editors like sitush

VARNA or forward(and by extension OBC) caste NOT MENTIONED IN LEAD BY CONSENSUS
Varna or forward caste and similar points should not be mentioned in lead section of caste article or a Notable.

1. from Talk:P._K._Rosy see this

''For example, one of the most controversial verifiable statements is the varna of a caste but we very deliberately- by long-standing consensus - avoid putting it in the lead because it just creates a storm. We discuss it in the body, showing all opinions with equal weight.''-13:31, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

2.Talk:Rajput/Archive_24 ''It is probable that neither of you are aware of this but there has long been a consensus that we do not mention varna in the lead sections of articles. For that reason, the change is not acceptable.-Sitush 14:44, 15 November 2014 (UTC)''

3.Talk:Ror [see this] ''Even if we had a reliable source for it, consensus has long been that varna is not mentioned in lead sections (and, by extension, in infoboxes & short descriptions). - Sitush 10:37, 9 August 2021 (UTC)''

4.Talk:Yadav/Archive_11 Sitush's revert see this revert by Sitush Explanation in Talk:Yadav/Archive_11 ''There is a long-standing consensus that we try to avoid mentioning varna in lead sections because the issue is very frequently complex. - Sitush (talk) 11:07, 2 April 2016''

5.Talk:Nair/Archive_18 ''Forward caste issue is dealt with in the article body and the issue is complex. There is a consensus not to include varna & this sort of stuff in lead sections Sitush 17:26, 7 January 2012''

6.Talk:Maratha_(caste)/Archive_3 ''Please note that even if these come to light, we would not be showing the varna status in the lead section or infobox as there is a consensus that such things cause only problems. The statement would appear within the body of the article. - Sitush 14:41, 21 September 2012 (UTC)''

Later Discussion at : Wikipedia_talk:Noticeboard_for_India-related_topics/Archive_74#Leads_of_articles_on_castes

Neither Sadasivan nor Vivekananda are reliable for caste matters
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Sitush's opinion about K.S.Singh
from Talk:Khant_(caste)/Archive_1 Discussions at WP:RSN determined that we should avoid using the "states" series of The People of India, which has been published in many parts over many years by many different outfits and with several different general editors. There were various reasons for this consensus, not least of them being that much of the "states" series is actually plagiarised from Raj era sources (see my prior post here today). However, the "national" series, published by the Oxford University Press and with Kumar Suresh Singh as its general editor, is considered to be reliable. Thanks. - Sitush (talk) 13:21, 21 January 2019 (UTC)