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The descendants of Domhnall Gud of Carbery. McCarthys of Carbery.

Domhnall Gud (died 1252), son of Domhnall Mor na Curra (Big Donal of Curra) and grandson of Diarmuid Cille Baidhne had five sons: Domhnal Maol, from whom the Kingship; Diarmuid Reamhar, from whom Clan Diarmuid Rour; Tadhg Dall, also known as Clan Teig Aighlionn at Skibereen; Finghin of Ringrone and Cormac of Mangerton.

Domhnall Maol (Donal the Bald), son of Domhnall Gud, had sons: Domhnall Cam (Donal, the Crooked or Bent), Cormac Finn(Cormac the Fair), Sean Ruadh( Red John), Donnchadh Mor (Big Donough) and Donnchadh Canthainn. Domhnall Glas (Green-eyes) son of Domhnall Cam(The Bent). Cormac Donn, son of Domhnall Cam from whom Tadhg an Duna. Diarmuid, son of Domhnall Cam, from whom came the O'Cremins. Diarmuid of Fial, son of Domhnall Cam. Donnchadh of Fial, son of Domhnall Cam, from whom descend the O'Cullenanes. Diarmuid of Gamdha, son of Dear Richard,

According to EdwardMacLysaght’s More Irish Families (1960),p. 72, the name Cremin (Ó Cruimín in Irish) is exclusively a west Munstersurname; almost all of the families so called are resident in counties Kerryand Cork, though in the 1659 census they were more numerous in the countyLimerick barony of Connelloe. The tradition is that they are a branch of theMacCarthys, and in the Bantry district Matheson the name Cremin is interchangeablewith MacCarthy.

There are fewsources for genealogical research in Corkin the 1600s. These include: 1500-1650, ThePipe Rolls of Cloyne, Journal of the Cork Historical andArchaeological Society, 1918, NLI Ir 794105 c 1 1641, The Bookof Survey and Distribution, NLI MS 966-7 1641, Survey ofhouses in Corkcity, listing tenants and possessions, National Archives of Ireland, Quit RentOffice Papers 1654, CivilSurvey, Vol, VI, NLI Ir 9141 C 12 1659, Pender’sCensus. IMS. NLI Ir 94106 c 27 1662-1667,Subsidy Rolls, extracts for Condons and Clangibbons baronies, National Archivesof Ireland, M. 4968 and M. 2636.

If you areunable to consult these sources yourself I would advise you to hire a privateresearcher who will be able to undertake this research for you, see http://www.nli.ie/en/commission-research.aspx.

1. JOHN1 CREMEEN wasborn 1624 in Cork County, Ireland, and died June 1713 in Dorchester County, Maryland.He married (1) UNKNOWN FIRST WIFE. She was born Abt. 1660. He married (2)SUSANNAH MACE Bet. 1688 – 1694. She died 1734.

During my research which has spanned about six years of note takeing reading and waiting and thinking of which direction to search and what lead to go on as I know after about the third generation that came here our family history left to speculations and hear say faded into history and a new history and life was made here in America, but I think that, I have a rough account as to what happened from 1641 thru 1713. What I can gather our 1st Grandfather John M Cremeen, born in cork county Ireland would of been about 19 years of age by the time he arrived here as an indentured servant do to the Cromwellian wars, I can figure that he was an prisnor of war fighting as an Irish rebel with the Mccarthy resistance and not being killed as a punishment for fighting British forces during the Cromwellian landings. I believe he was much older then 19 at the time he came here. Id say, he was at least 27 years of age. Most reasearchers have him much younger.But as childern and woman where sold off together, he would of been to old at the time to be a child, and haveing made an indentured servant he would of had to be more of in his twenty's at that time Griffith's valuations had him owning land with his father Denis Mccarthy Cremeen in the 1627 valuations in the Kilacremba area of Cork county. Oliver Cromwell landed with his New Model Army in June 1641. In which the Mccarthy's fought against and resisted cromwells Army. They did not succeed in stoping cromwell's advance ,so at this time Charles Mccarthy forfeited all lands and the castle at Kantuc and it is believed.He was Denis's father, not proved yet but the time, area and dates do some what match, that of a birth of about 1618 not 1658 that would make John M Cremeen 42 years old by time of his forced departure from Ireland on the ship Crown Malingo to Chesepeak Bay Maryland in October of 1677. he only lived another 36 years in Maryland, makeing his age at time of his death would of been 85 years old which sounds more consistant which my reasearch, records and investigations of the time. which for the time is pretty old. Remember most of the Cromwellian deportation ended early 1700.s from 1648-1710 most deportations had ended. So I assume that I am correct as to assurtaining that my research is closely accurate, remember most records where not avaliable after 1920 do to another up riseing in Ireland and the government building houseing the records was torched. Some records did survive and linking them was a huge task. Cromwell left Ireland in May 1650 leaving Henry Ireton in command of English forces. Although Ireton mismanaged his campaign against Limerick, most of Leinster, Munster and Ulster were in English hands by the end of 1650. The campaign against the western province of Connacht continued throughout 1651. After Ireton's death, the subjugation of Ireland was completed by Edmund Ludlow and Sir Charles Coote, who accepted the surrender of Galway in May 1652.