User:Mfield/uscla talk

not advertisment at all. reads like any other university page - go check out ucla or harvard wiki page. it is the same style

can you honestly read the below and say that it reads any different? If you think this page is an advert, im pretty sure the below is MORE of an advert. so go edit there page please also.

"Harvard University is a private university in Cambridge, Massachusetts, U.S., and a member of the Ivy League. Founded in 1636 by the colonial Massachusetts legislature,[2] Harvard is the oldest institution of higher learning in the United States. It is also the first and oldest corporation in North America. [4] "


 * Do we have any evidence of the actual existence of this school, or its presence in South Central L.A.? The L.A. address is a mail drop nowhere near South Central, and the HQ is apparently in British Virgin Islands, though I suspect that's also just a post office box. The photos on the website are obviously not of the school and are probably just from a stock photo service. Who are the staff and faculty? ·:· Will Beback ·:· 22:18, 6 December 2008 (UTC)


 * The lead says that the staff are from "around the world". Where, specifically? It also says that teaching is "predominantly through distance learning." That implies that some of it is in person. Where does this person-to-person teaching occur? Or is that a grammatical mistake and it should read "solely through distance learning"? Lastly, is this school authorized to give diplomas in any jurisdiction at all? ·:· Will Beback  ·:· 22:25, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

who are the staff and faculty? for privacy reasons these are obviously not going to be published.! weg22
 * I'm not aware of any legitimate college or university that treats the names of its faculty as confidential. The article on Harvard University, which you've used as a comparison, clearly lists the name of its president. This article asserts that the faculty of the University of SouthCentral Los Angeles comes from "around the world". If there's no evidence of that then we should delete that. Likewise, if there's no evidence that instruction occurs we should delete reference to instruction as well. ·:·Will Beback  ·:· 22:57, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Yes it is authorised to issue diplomas. - Namely British Virgin Islands and California, given there is no education board in California since 2007. Any school may issue degrees, and the majority are waiting until the new bill is passed before being granted license. Do not let your biased opinions corrupt an innocent wiki page. weg22
 * Where can we find evidence of these authorizations? ·:· Will Beback  ·:· 22:57, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Buildings
And why is the image of the building on the front page of the website such a bad photoshop job? It looks like somebody copied and pasted part of the Parthenon onto a row of English Georgian spa town houses. Mfield (talk) 22:42, 6 December 2008 (UTC)


 * It is obvious you have personal prejudice versus objectivity in this matter. The site is better than many of the hundreds of other university and college websites that exist.  Are you saying it should not have a wiki page because the photo is not up to your high standards?   weg22  —Preceding unsigned comment added byWeg2 (talk • contribs) 22:45, 6 December 2008 (UTC)


 * I have no personal prejudice, there are zero facts around which to base one. I am saying that that image makes it look as if the institution is pretending to have a physical presence that it in fact doesn't. I don't think any credible reputable educational establishment would have a possibly faked picture of someone else's building on their front page. It's all not inspiring confidence. And the lack of a single mention by a solitary reliable source is not helping. I would not be surprised if to find a head office in Nigeria with an address starting in 419. Mfield (talk) 22:50, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Again, why are you making assumptions. I would not say it was fake, possibly just an office building that they own. It is quite normal for universities to own multiple properties. (talk

Thank you for mentioning non reliable sources. Should the univ be disadvantaged because it is new? New schools open every day across the states and indeed the world. It does not mean they are fake or dodgy. ? (talk


 * If they make claims that are unsubstantiated then yes, it is reasonable to assume that there is something dodgy. Rather than argue about it, please just find sources to substantiate what you've written in the article. ·:· Will Beback  ·:· 23:02, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

I find it interesting that no less than two days after this discussion here, all those suspiciously doctored photos have magically disappeared from the website. Suspect article creator is involved with this 'institution' and has COI, either way it is looking more and more like a scam/hoax. Mfield (talk) 21:57, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
 * The Whois entry for the website uses a non-existent street address in Los Angeles, so that is looking more and more plausible. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 22:20, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Maybe time to screenshot the site for use on a possible future USCLA (Scam) article. Gonna gid through my cache and find those images ;-) Mfield (talk) 22:28, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Gotta love Google cache, i'll keep it for future posterity.Mfield (talk) 22:33, 8 December 2008 (UTC)