User:Mike Schwartz/subpage/sandbox9

Introduction
I "was" going to (I was "considering" the idea... to) add this as a new section (the first new section! ...) at: Talk:Orthodox Jewish student groups at secular universities;

but ... if that were done, then ... it would make this [proposed "idea"] (even "more") publicly visible .... and ... for now ... it might be better to first get some comments on it (e.g., from R. Shmuli Slonim) ... before making it quite so publicly visible.


 * The reason for including the sub-section called "footnotes for this section" was: because, (on a "Talk:" page, at least), it is better to keep the footnotes for a given section, together with that section. The reasons for that include:
 * convenience (finding them) and avoiding confusion; AND
 * the fact that, sometimes some sections (which are no longer active) get "archived" ... while other sections (which are still active) do NOT get "archived".

So ... see below:

Would this specific "addition" (of a new "entry") be appropriate?
It has come to my attention that there is a now a Chabad [house] "at" Rice University. Disclosure[s]: I attended Rice University -- over 40 years ago -- ("over 50", if you count the "Rice Summer School for High School students", which I attended between 9th and 10th grades).

Also, the directors (Rabbi Shmuli and Nechama Slonim) of "Chabad at Rice" include someone whose sister is married to a close friend of mine in Phoenix AZ.

I was thinking that someone should perhaps edit this article, to add a mention of Chabad at Rice.

Would that be a good idea?
Does a Chabad [house] like that, count as an "Orthodox Jewish student group at a secular university"?

I realize that some experts (within Chabad but maybe elsewhere, too) consider labels such as "Orthodox" to be divisive and perhaps "counter productive" ... and hence do not recommend, and do not even "support", the idea of promoting the use of such labels.

Does that affect the appropriateness ["if any"] of having an entry for Chabad at Rice, in the Wikipedia article about Orthodox Jewish student groups at secular universities -- ? --


 * EXAMPLE: A Chabad at ASU has existed for several years. There is no entry for it in this Wikipedia article (Orthodox_Jewish_student_groups_at_secular_universities) ... probably either because the article is not "up to date" ... or possibly because someone thought that it would be divisive or perhaps "counter productive" ... to associate the "label" << "Orthodox" >> with Chabad at ASU.


 * In fact, none of the Orthodox Jewish student groups at secular universities listed in this Wikipedia article ... seem to be Chabad "oriented" groups. That might not be a coincidence.

Do you have any comments?

Staying "up to date"
At the same time, it has come to my attention that (or, it seems to me, that) if one were to try to "keep up with" the changes, every time they open a new Orthodox Jewish student group at a secular university -- whether Chabad "oriented" or not -- that this article would probably have to be updated at least every year -- and maybe even more often.

While, if one were "NOT" trying to "keep up with" the changes every time they started a new Orthodox Jewish student group at a secular university -- then this article would probably quickly become "outdated" (right?)

I do not know how "outdated" [if at all] this article has already become. (If it is blatantly incomplete, [already], then ... is that OK? Wouldn't it [adversely] affect the value / usefulness of this article?)

...and finally, (in light of the  [ ed]  "Disclosure[s]" shown above), how necessary would it be -- (if at all) -- for me to recuse myself from being involved in the editing of this article, in order to avoid an [impermissible] "conflict of interest" OR -- [perhaps even harder to avoid] -- an impermissible "appearance of impropriety"?

In particular, I was thinking that someone -- (maybe not me) -- should perhaps edit this article, to add a mention of Chabad at Rice.

Any comments? --Mike Schwartz (talk) 21:50, 27 October 2017 (UTC)