User:Muffin Wizard/SAP

Well.. With the continuous Filipino media heating up the Sabah claim, this also have heating up our Sabahan natives ears about this claim.. Here we point out why Sabah and  part of the Philippines..

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 * Hah'ah, before the Sultanate of Sulu managed to exercised control over parts of Borneo. Do you know that the territory of the Sulu Sultanate include the whole Borneo until the present-day Manila are once under the control of Bruneian Empire during the reign of Bolkiah     before parts of it been ceded to Sulu after a civil war that happened in Brunei? But still, the cede to Sulu is still disputable!

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 * Heh, have you see any map about the present Sulu Sultanate claim been released on media? Well, that is a total fake map released by some irresponsible people who even did not know the history of Sabah. Even since my late grandfather still alive, he told me that not the whole territory of the present-day Sabah are once part of the Sultanate of Sulu. I tried to find out this story on British libraries and I found out that the western part (as supported by British North Borneo administration source) are under the control of the Bruneian Empire. So the real border of the administration of the Sulu Sultanate is only from Pandassan River in Kota Marudu district to Sibuco (Sibuku) River in Tawau district.

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 * Well, you know what are the culture of this Sultanate once ago until now? Kidnapping, murdering and slavery.. See Moro attacks on Borneo..

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 * Another important events is when the Spanish have exercised their powers in the Philippines archipelago. The Sultanate cannot even trade with other traders when the Spanish impose their blockade over the Sulu Archipelago and the Spanish continue to wage war freely against the Sultanate after the signing of the treaty with the two westerners powers in return to not intervene British possession in Borneo.

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 * Uhh, so after a big war with Spanish, and finally the American and Japanese,.

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 * Just look at the list of the claimants. Who is the real sultan? According to the law of Sultan,.

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 * So, when we provide you protection from the war in the Southern Philippines, you disturb our peoples, doing crimes and spread your Rido cultures here as a return?

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 * How you can achieve peace if everyone have a gun? When a fight broke out (even just a small one) people will shoot each other and some innocent peoples will died. Just like the Rido cultures.. Please, we in Sabah have a strict firearms law, if the authorities find out that normal peoples other than security forces have a firearms, you could be facing a death penalty. Well, life is much better without firearms, we have live peacefully here since a long time ago and not so many cases involving firearms accidents here.

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 * My father have visited and lived in the Philippines for 1 year during Marcos in power. You know what he found out when arriving in Manila? Nothing more than kids beggars. But yeah it is quite annoying when you help one then come another more beggars that forced you to give some money. While in Sabah, we already have enough of this mostly from Filipino Moro refugees!! We don't want our lovely state to be infiltrated by beggars!!

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 * Woahhh, 100,000,000+ populations in the Philippines but high poverty!? Just keep having sex and make babies but did not taking care them, even we have 3 million populations in Sabah (mostly illegal immigrants from Philippines and Indonesia) already gives us headache here. What more with those gargantuan populations!? Just imagine if Sabah are part of the Philippines and half of the populations move here.. -_- Should take an example from the bigger Chinese to control excessive birth, see One-child policy..

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 * ! Having an expensive 8mbps internet already makes me angry. What more if have internet slowest than this. -_-

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 * Well, this could be broke out anytime in Sabah if this state was under the control of the Philippines. Just look how the Philippine Government treat the Moro Muslim (see Jabidah massacre) when they don't want to attack their fellow Muslim relatives in Sabah. Sooo cruel, no peace at all..

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 * Huh, some of these stupid militants only know to cause chaos. They are not sincerely fighting for the peace of their peoples.

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 * and... this is the most unacceptable if we become part of the Philippines. Sabah will lost its autonomy on controlling the immigration and other autonomies in land titles. To my fellow Sabahan, do you want this to happen? You did not know "state" have a much than "province" just like most states in the United States? For serious, I am rather vote to separate as a country like Singapore or Brunei rather than merge with the Philippines who can't even solve its own citizen problems.

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 * HAHAHA! and this is the most sh*ttest propaganda from Mother Needs (Long+Lasting) Fuck bandit group we ever heard. Never in history the Moro people set foot to administer Sarawak or exercised power into Sarawak land. From this, we already know how greedy they are.. If Misuari come to Sarawak, his head must already been chopped by the Dayak headhunters of Sarawak. Didn't read what happen in Kalimantan before, when some disturbing peace on Dayak lands (Sampit conflict, Sambas riots and Tarakan riot).

but from all of these mess.. I like the quotation by the Philippines media of Manila Standard dated 13 August 1988 which said; 

Yeah, even I like the quote, but still there is more by Manila Standard especially on this;



Haha, seriously? I have many relatives on the island and I can be sure to you that Labuanian citizens wish like that. That must be who. Didn't ever heard there is a number of illegal Filipinos in Labuan? and didn't you realise the majority of Labuanians come from what race? So