User:Navy blue84/Archive 1

STS-125
Why did you hide the EVA stuff? I can understand the wake up calls. Since there is info for the EVA's, I think it should be on the page and seen. All other shuttle missions had that info well before the launch of the shuttle.--navy_blue84 Navy Blue 17:04, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually all other flights have the information hidden until launch. The reason being, the EVAs do not happen if the launch does not happen. And anything can cause them to be postponed, changed, etc., especially before the FRR has even happened. Generally, once the FRR is done, and the official Mission Press Kit is put out, then the mission timeline is filled out, and the EVA table is shown. :) If you are interested in reading the Manual of Style for the shuttle missions, let me know and I can grab the link for you. :) Ariel  ♥  Gold  17:09, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Also, please fix your signature. Your signature currently leads editors to the article (which does not exist, as you can see from the red link in your above signature link) which means they cannot get ahold of you by clicking on your name. You can get help for signatures here: WP:SIG. :) Ariel  ♥  Gold  17:24, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Signature
Hee hee, now your signature is taking readers to the User:Example's page, which is there solely for an example of what a user page looks like, and isn't a "real" person. :) I would suggest that you turn off custom signatures for now, and allow Wikipedia to do it for you automatically. Simply go into your preferences, UNcheck the "Raw signature" box, clear anything in that field, and then when you type four ~ (tildes) your signature will be done automatically correctly. :) (Edit: Now your signature is going to a user that doesn't exist, because it has a period between Navy and blue, :) Also, you cannot have the 'b' be capitalized, because yours isn't.) Ariel  ♥  Gold  17:36, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Yep! It is working now, great job! :) Ariel  ♥  Gold  18:02, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion of User:Navy blue84
A tag has been placed on User:Navy blue84, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article seems to be blatant advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read the guidelines on spam as well as the Business' FAQ for more information.

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 * I'm not trying to pick on you or anything, but when I clicked on your new and improved signature and saw that you were using your userpage for advertising, I had no choice. Wikipedia is not the place for promotional material. Click here for the most concise guide to what Wikipedia is and how it works. Thanks. Beeblbrox (talk) 18:03, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Hey that's much better now. You're not really supposed to remove speedy deletion templates from things you have created, but since you acted in good faith and made the changes we'll just ignore that. Beeblbrox (talk) 18:21, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry got highlight happy. I do got a question. If I am a member of several computer help forums, may I post links to all them? They are all top forums and can be easily found doing a search, but not everyone may know what to search for. Or is there somewhere that it can be discussed? Just wondering. I think something like that letting people know there is help out there is benificial to everyone. Also, sorry for coming off rude. I was working on getting it strightnend out with someone else.--Navy blue84 (talk) 18:27, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I think that would be ok, if it's not done in a way where it appears to be advertising those forums. The relevant policy is here and it doesn't seem to say much about external links. Beeblebrox (talk) 22:46, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * It wouldn't be advertising. I would word it like here is a list of the top forums. If you have a question or need help with your computer feel free to visit one of these free forums and then put a list linking to them. I will read that article you gave me. Thank you.--Navy blue84 (talk) 02:49, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I added a subpage to my user page. If you would like to take a look when you get a chance and see if that is ok. Obviously I will re word it or change it if it don't meet the guidelines.--Navy blue84 (talk) 03:31, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Expedition 18
Could you please stop your vandalism using outdated references ? The fact that the crew has been changed is documented and you have not seen the reference ? I can't believe that you can't find this kind of reference http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/station/expeditions/expedition18/index.html by yourself so I suspect you are playing a game. Hektor (talk) 05:18, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Template:Shuttle stats
Hello. What was the source you used for updating Template:Shuttle stats? It's a table I wouldn't mind updating myself. --Bark (talk) 19:30, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Template:PAGE/Archive 1
Should I assume you want that deleted? It looks like your temp page. Also, it's fine to archive your talk pages to a talk page. It actually makes more sense that way. If you need help, I'll move things around so it's clearer. -- Ricky81682 (Ricky81682) 04:56, 30 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes I wanted that page deleted. Please do move my archive page to the talk page. I am still learning how to do all these things.--Navy blue84 (talk) 16:02, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Launch Window
Hey Navy, I removed that info you put in the STS-126 infobox about the launch window, because it isn't part of the infobox, and doesn't affect the mission. Most readers have no idea what a beta cutout is, and the launch window isn't something that they would understand, and could cause confusion. :) Ariel♥Gold 02:09, 1 October 2008 (UTC)


 * You must not give people much credit then. I think a lot of people know that a launch window means the time of period that the shuttle has to launch. Plus it has been put in the info box for every mission that I have seen on Wikipedia. It must be just editors that can put the info they want in there.--Navy blue84 (talk) 03:40, 1 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Agreed. You also deleted some other items on the STS-125 and some other pages that people find useful. It isn't up to one person to decide what is and isn't relevenant to people. The mission's flight directors, capcoms, PAOs and other personnel are indeed important to the public, as are some of the more technical details like launch windows. Be careful with your censoring.--Transformer911 (talk) 13:50, 1 October 2008 (UTC).

Template:Shuttle stats
Hey Navy, I reverted your changes to that template, because it was obviously incorrect with regards to several issues. Most noticeable was that the days in space increased for Endeavour, but the orbits, mileage, and Km went down. Those statistics are many, many missions out of date, so please before you update it, provide a source URL on the talk page and lets get other folks to check them as well. Thanks! Ariel♥Gold 09:57, 7 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Those were the numbers that were on each shuttles wiki article that had been updated as of the end of each shuttles last flight. So if the template was "wrong and out of date", then each of the shuttles wiki articles is out of date and needs to be updated as well.--Navy blue84 (talk) 01:12, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Perhaps it was your math, or something, but you actually removed miles, km, and orbits from the shuttle's history, but added days in space. Hee hee. And, just so you know, you cannot use Wikipedia as a source, so taking the information from a shuttle flight's Wikipedia article isn't the best way to update something. Information must come from reliable sources, such as NASA or one of the many sites that follow the space program. (Wikipedia itself, is not considered a reliable source, lol.) Ariel♥Gold 05:42, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Flag Icons
Yes, I did put the flag icons on the ISS page, and i'm sorry. I was just trying to make the page more colourful. Again, i'm sorry. You may delete this article after you read it User:AliDincgor/(talk)

Speedy deletion of Template:PAGE/Archive 1
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I realize you were unfamiliar with archiving, so this page should get deleted, as it is in the Wikipedia Template space, and doesn't belong there. :) Ariel♥Gold 10:04, 7 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Will this affect my archive?--Navy blue84 (talk) 15:01, 7 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Not at all. You put that page into Template space. That is for templates, not for user's use. It would be best if you would go blank the page and then request deletion, but it will be deleted eventually. If you recall, you made a number of pages in article space at first as well. ALL of your sub pages must have "User:Navy blue84" at the start of them, or they are going to be put into article or other places they don't belong, such as in this case, it is in "Template" space. Ariel♥Gold 20:05, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Flight duration
Hey Navy, just to let you know, with regards to you changing the mission duration on STS-126, Launch day is Flight Day 1, and is counted as such. So the mission is 16 days, check the press kit, check all the previous missions, NASA pages that show the first wake-up calls are given on "Flight day 2", the execute packages, the mission status reports, etc., to understand that all shuttle missions start on launch day, which is Flight Day one, even if it is not a full day. Hope that helps you understand how missions work a bit better. Cheers! Ariel ♥  Gold  14:14, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Your right those are flight days, my mistake. However, it is actually only 15 days. They maybe up there 15days and xyz amount of hours/minutes/seconds. So technically it is only 15 days. I don't think we should say 16days is the duration when NASA says its a 15day mission.--Navy blue84 (talk) 18:30, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I disagree. See the discussion on Talk:STS-126. This is not a NASA site, which uses MET to calculate days, this is Wikipedia. The orbiter will be in orbit for 16 days, whether full or partial does not matter, as far as Wikipedia is concerned, it is 16 calendar days. Ariel  ♥  Gold  20:12, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Although I disagree with the theory, I will go along with it.--Navy blue84 (talk) 23:29, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

STS-126 Mass
Hey Navy, would you please let me know what site you obtained the weight of the orbiter and payload from, so it can be properly referenced? Also please confirm if it is pounds, or kilograms. Thanks! Ariel ♥  Gold  04:01, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Lead on John Phillips
After looking at John L. Phillips again, the lead still does not comply with WP:LEAD. How does two sentences summarize the entire article adequately under that style guideline? -MBK004 18:20, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Huggle Help
If you require huggle help please post HERE. Thanks :)  ·Add§hore·  T alk T o M e ! 08:20, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Family Guy
That horse was obviously retarded. I'll bet ya a hundred thou that when the uncensored version of that episode comes out on DVD, it will say "retarded" instead of "brain damaged."64.128.172.131 (talk) 16:52, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
 * And until there is a source that is reliable and verifiable that says that, it will continue to be reverted.--Navy blue84 (talk) 16:53, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Re: Expedition Table
Yeah, they look great! I was interested in how Expeditions function after seeing the "In the news" item on the Main Page, and decided that the information would best be displayed in that format. If the exact dates are known for when various crews will take over, I think it'd be a good idea to add them to the tables, as having two periods listed as "June 2009" is ambiguous and somewhat confusing. I felt I didn't know enough about the topic to add the exact dates, so I left them as they were (with the ambiguous months). Feel free to change them. If you have any questions, please contact me at my talk page. Ian Manka 03:50, 28 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Oh, also, would it be appropriate to add a table to an article that would display a timeline of who was each position when and for what missions? If so, what article? I'd be more than happy to do it. If you have any questions, please contact me at my talk page. Ian Manka 03:52, 28 May 2009 (UTC)


 * As for the timeline I mentioned, I was wondering if there is an article where a timeline of who is on the ISS at what time would be appropriate, using something like EasyTimeline (an example of which can be found here). I was looking around, and thought that maybe a timeline would be appropriate at List of International Space Station Expeditions. Let me know what you think. If you have any questions, please contact me at my talk page. Ian Manka 06:09, 31 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Okay, cool. If you have any questions, please contact me at my talk page. Ian Manka 18:48, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

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Talkback
Seeing as you were the first to introduce tables for spacecraft crews instead of lists, I thought you might be interested in the discussion.  G W … 22:41, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I have commented and sorry for the delay in my response, I was away for a bit of a rest!--Navy blue84 (talk) 17:00, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Crew Wakeup
The wakeup call was played for the entire crew. The PAO said, at least. Dave answered the call though. —Preceding unsigned comment added by ReelNASA (talk • contribs) 13:20, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
 * According to the NASA Shuttle web page, the PAO twitter stream as well as many other sources, it was indeed played for Dave Wolf and not the whole crew. Please make sure the info you add is correct!--Navy blue84 (talk) 14:16, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Mission insignias
Since I joined Wikipedia, the policy has been to keep them hidden until the start of the mission and then reveal them since the person will be a mission member regardless of when or if that mission completes. As far as I know, this policy has not been changed. Are you saying that ISS Expedition crew member articles should not show the mission insignia until that expedition is over? Rillian (talk) 19:20, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Policy is stated at Template:Infobox_Astronaut as follows "mission = Insert the completed or in progress mission(s) that the person has been a part of. Do not enter future missions as crew assignments can change prior to launch." Rillian (talk) 19:27, 21 July 2009 (UTC)


 * The expeditions should not be shown. It is stated in the astronaut's page that they are currently in space. It has been reverted and stated that it should only be put in the info box by others. Just going by what the consensus is, since that is what Wikipedia is about.--Navy blue84 (talk) 01:24, 22 July 2009 (UTC)


 * The consensus per the definition on Template:Infobox_Astronaut is that in progress missions are shown. That has been the definition since 5 October 2007. If you want to propose a change to the consensus, please start a discussion on the Talk page for Template:Infobox_Astronaut. Please stop reverting changes made in accordance with consensus. Rillian (talk) 13:45, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

FD07 Wake Up Call --> Life Is a Highway composer
Hi, I noticed you edited my entry for FD07 ("Life Is a Highway"). If you look at the heading of the column it is "Artist/Composer". That is why I included "Rascall Flats / Tom Cochrane". Note the "/".

Rascall Flats did not compose that song. Tom Cochrane did.

Do you disagree with that statement?

I left the entry alone for now since you guys may have a certain way of inputting the info, but just wanted to clear that up. Feel free to change it back to the correct version I had entered.

Thanks,

KB —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kbahrami (talk • contribs) 09:52, 22 July 2009 (UTC)


 * You are right Tom Cochrane did compose the song (its one of my all time fave. songs). However, only the preformer should be posted when putting the wake up calls in the articles, that is why I changed it. Also, could you please post the links to the wake up calls in the various formats. It makes it easier for people to hear who can not find it. Thanks.--Navy blue84 (talk) 12:47, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I see where it says composer too. I never noticed/paid attention to that. So you where right, but in my opinion it should just be the artist that is listed there, with the wiki link to the song. If we put composers in for some songs there would be a list of 10 different people.--Navy blue84 (talk) 12:47, 22 July 2009 (UTC)


 * No worries; I am new to this. I also agree that using the composer would make a pretty long list sometimes.  Maybe we should take out "Composer" out of the heading.  I am a flight support engineer on this mission and that shift is somewhat quiet so the wake up is always fun to identify.  Unfortunately there are no links when I post (I am on console) and I can not post later as the operations pick up once the crew is awake.  I kind of rely on you for the links. :-) If you prefer I can just leave the article alone until one of you see all the info.  Just figuring my way around here. :-) Kbahrami (talk) 21:10, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I will tell you the trick I use, I just copy the links from another day and change the end where it says fdxx. So for example I would grab the FD7 link and change it to fd08 and post it. Not sure if the others go through the trouble of going and grabbing each link or not but that is how I do. As for the heading I don't see a problem leaving it, as long as the artist and song names are linked to the articles for each. I think that is so cool you get to work at NASA! I am truly green with envy!! Also, you might want to check out the spaceflight portal, if you haven't already.--Navy blue84 (talk) 01:32, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the tip! I was off today so I missed the call.  And I actually work for the company that built the MSS and am stationed at the Canadian Space Agency where we support the Canadarm2 ops on-board.  We are linked to the same data and voice-loops that my colleagues on JSC are; we just don't have to suffer in the heat and humidity of Houston! ;-) Kbahrami (talk) 22:23, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Engology
I wrote the following at Engology's talk page, but he deleted it. I'm reposting it here in case he does it again.
 * Engology is, from what I can tell, a one-note crank. See my comments at this talk page; he stopped trying to add his edit there, but as you've seen he's been successful at sneaking it in everywhere else. YLee (talk) 12:49, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

YLee (talk) 19:39, 24 July 2009 (UTC) PS - I just reverted Engology's deleting the above here, too. Sheesh! YLee (talk) 21:54, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

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========= Don't issue THREATS to me. It was you who allegedly stated;



Full Text; 

I am quite entitled to edit pages. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Engology (talk • contribs) 11:20, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Read who said what. I did not say that, and if you continue I will contact an administrator and let them deal with it. You are entitled to edit pages, but you keep adding information that is contested and uncited. I have just asked for you to discuss the change and get consensus which is what Wikipedia is based on!--Navy blue84 (talk) 12:15, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

response
In response to your message, while I have seen these edits, I have stayed out in case I am needed for any administrative action (such as 3RR). Since this is a content dispute, the normal action would be to protect the singular article while discussion ensued on the talk page, but as this encompasses many articles, blocking become much more viable. I would suggest going through WP:DR and/or posting at WP:ANI. The reason being that administrative action at this point would only be a stern warning from an admin, whereas a post at ANI might result in multiple admins responding. -MBK004 18:02, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

STS-335
All the LON missions so far have been starting with a STS-3xx, do you have a verifiable source which says that the mission is indeed STS-135 and not 335 ? Hektor (talk) 17:54, 28 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Actually NASA stopped assigning STS-3xx mission numbers after I belive STS-120 or so. It has been stated that the rescue mission would be designated the next flight number. Check here for STS-134 LON. It is down near the bottom.--Navy blue84 (talk) 23:21, 28 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Ok thanks. I was not aware of this change. Hektor (talk) 11:12, 29 July 2009 (UTC)


 * No problem, it wasn't widely published or talked about. I didn't know it until a couple missions after they had changed it.--Navy blue84 (talk) 13:11, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

STS-133/134
OK, I will wait until the official confirmation via the Change Request (CR) to switch the order of STS-133/134. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Peteharding (talk • contribs) 21:54, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Re: McCool
I literally just posted a reply to your message on her talk page. Online World of Wrestling hasn't been proven reliable, and therefore cannot be used for possibly contentious information like someone's past (or current) relationships. Nikki ♥  311   01:40, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

STS 129 launch date
The launch date of space shuttle Atlantis on STS 129 to bring forward to 9 of November, 2009 is not a rumour (deleted item). See, the following official NASA page, http://www.nasa.gov/rss/128_update.xml (under the title "Crew Performing Final Inspection of Discovery"). Also from every latest source I see in the Internet, the duration of the STS 129 mission is 11 days and not 15 days. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.132.3.6 (talk) 04:03, 9 September 2009 (UTC)


 * The link you gave has nothing about STS-129. It is for STS-128 mission status updates. I looked on the NASA website and there is nothing about STS-129 being moved up, nor is there any info on NASASpaceflight.com or Spaceflightnow.com. There is only a forum post on NSF about it, but that can't be used as a source. So until it is confirmed in an article it is rumor. Also, when you post to a talk page, you can sign your posts bu using --~ . That will insert your your IP, date and time when you posted.--Navy blue84 (talk) 13:36, 9 September 2009 (UTC)


 * I am sorry that I did not insert my IP in the earlier post and apologize. In the above mentioned web site (though it is on Discovery's STS 128 updates), the following sentence can be found. "Program managers are still targeting Nov. 12 for the launch of the next shuttle mission, STS-129, but are assessing the possibility of launching as early as Nov. 9". You may wish to search this in the given web site. Also, I have read in the forum of NASASpaceflight.com about a possible earlier liftoff on the 9 th. Have a look: http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=17331.30 (Thread: STS-129: Processing Latest (OPF, VAB)). If I am correct this was mentioned first by a user named ChrisGebhardt. 152.226.7.204 (talk) 23:54, 9 September 2009 (UTC)


 * That is pretty standard for every mission. There was talk of moving STS-127 from June 15 to June 12 for the first attempt. STS-128 after its realignment was talked about launching on August 21. So you can see why I removed it. NASA managers like to get as much padding for launch delays as possible. I did read the article (must have missed it), and I did read it in the NSF forum. I know the post was made by Chris Gebhardt, and he is an editor there, but he said it was only being revealed and nothing is offical. Until then it should be left out.--Navy blue84 (talk) 00:13, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

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Nice Edit!
I'm probably just late to the party, but just wanted to thank you for the awesome additions to the template on astronaut Mike Massimino's article (specifically this edit you made). I wasn't aware of the template/functionality to do that. Nice to know, especially since I was slowly going through some folk's bios to add their official Twitter account(s). Your edit educated me that there's a better way!. Thanks again. Know you're just tidying up, like I (try to) do, but thought your edits were so time-saving they deserved a (apparently not so quick) "Thank You!" :-) - Ageekgal (talk) 18:53, 3 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Not a problem. Coincidently that is the same way I learned of the Twitter template. Seen it used on another BLP, so thats how I knew it was there. We are all here to learn and try to better Wikipedia. So anytime you need help drop me a line, I will be glad to help (esp. if they are space articles).--Navy blue84 (talk) 20:07, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

STS-134
I don't mind you undoing my edits, but it would be nice if you would give a reason. Aldebaran66 (talk) 18:06, 17 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Sorry, thought I did. I undid it because STS-134 is no more important then some of the others and ceartinly is not less important then say STS-133 which is leaving the PLM on station, or the other ULF's.-- Navy Blue84  18:36, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

STS-8
Would that I could get any! I fear this material is becoming trapped in a loop - we don't want to remove it without consensus, so we keep putting it back in, but out of a sense of fairness rather than a strong desire to keep it.

I tried to kickstart a discussion on the project page a while back about over-tabling in general, but no replies; I've left a talk page message, and if I can't scare up some interest one way or the other I'll think about it again in a week. Shimgray | talk | 10:09, 21 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Try starting a new discussion on the Human spaceflight portal or on the Space Shuttle program talk page. I think we should try and get consensus and wait longer then a week before deciding to keep or remove it again.-- Navy Blue84  13:55, 21 November 2009 (UTC)


 * I've clarified my post to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Human spaceflight to see if that gets any attention. Shimgray | talk | 14:04, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

STS 129
I think STS-129 page is now almost completed. Great to work with you all. May be videos of the Launch, RPM, Spacewalks and Landing could be added though I am not sure, who will do it and how long will it take. About the orbital period, I think 91 mins is OK. Since the shuttle's orbit varies during a mission to the ISS, actually it could have several types orbits with slightly different periods. I plan to keep some what low till STS-132, next May !. Kurun (talk) 05:43, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I am going to look for some different media, I think a video of the RPM and landing would be great, and launch if there isn't one already. I agree about the orbital period, the one that should be used is the one while at ISS since most of the mission is done at that orbital period. It is great to see lots of people wanting to help, if you check out the spaceflight portal there is lots to be done, if you would like to help out!-- Navy Blue84  15:41, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Ketchup
Why "should use the proper article name when linking to another wiki article"? Just because you say so? Please point me to the policy or guideline that says this is what we should do; if you can't find one, please revert yourself. I see no reason to change the long-standing language, which reflects the usage in most of the English-speaking world, in favour of your US-centric version. -- Zsero (talk) 14:30, 2 December 2009 (UTC)


 * The discussion above was and will be continued on the Zsero's talk page.