User:Oshwah/TalkPageArchives/2017-06

Curious
Hello, Oshwah - I don't often look at the Help desk page, but on May 23, 2017, I happened to see a comment removed, so I looked at it. It was a request for help written by a female editor who seemed to be a non-native speaker of English. She had removed the request because no one had answered it, so I put it back with . Now, I'm trying to find out if anyone ever answered her question, and I can't find anything. Can you help me find out what happened to her request? Was it simply removed again, or did someone get to her question? I'm just curious. Thanks. – Corinne (talk) 00:45, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
 * , I took a look and I found that the question was answered here and then archived by a bot here. I'm not sure if the OP saw the answer or not, of course, but it stands to reason, given the time difference between those, that she did not. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants   Tell me all about it.  15:09, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you, MjolnirPants. I'm just curious, why does the bot archive answered questions so quickly? Is it that there are so many questions and answers that the page would get too long if they weren't archived quickly? Well, since the editor who answered notified the editor who asked the question, I guess there is a link to the question and answer that will work no matter whether it is archived or not, and she'll be able to find it. Thanks again. – Corinne (talk) 00:00, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Most such discussions are only active for a day or two. As you can see, the bot archived discussions where the first comment was dated 4 days prior, as you said, because the page would get unwieldy if discussions were allowed to stick around for much longer. If there's no function to tell a bot not to archive discussions that are ongoing, there probably should be (the proximity of the last comment to the archiving makes me think that might be the case, here). ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants   Tell me all about it.  00:17, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

Request to be Unblocked
Dear Oshwah,

My account had been blocked as its username was promotional in nature and contained the name of an organisation. The username has now been changed and contains neither any  promotional material nor the name of an organisation. Do let me know what I can do in regard to this. Thank you. Esha Sridhar (talk) 04:59, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
 * That account was promotionally-named, so cannot be unblocked; but you have successfully negotiated yourself a new username in line with policy- well done! Just a reminder though, of what it says at the top of your blank user page: '' For more information, please see What may I not have in my user pages? Because of the promotional nature of your original username, you should also take note of that Wikipedia's terms-of-use do not allow paid editing, and likewise, that editing articles you may have a conflict of interest in is also frowned upon. Apologies- this is a lot of reading :) but very important. Apart from that, happy editing!  &mdash;  O Fortuna   semper crescis, aut decrescis  13:49, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Just a small note for you: Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi. WP:UPE in your paid editing link is about using plain English. I believe the correct policy you were looking for was: WP:PAID. Also, paid editing is a complicated subject and isn't outright prohibited as long as full disclosure is made, see WP:PAID for details about that but you're right that it's frowned upon by many editors and anyone who commits to paid editing is heading for storm-laden waters. Thanks! -&#61;Troop&#61;- (talk) 14:15, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Thaks for the reminder as to UPE - rectified; of course, PAID. As to the rest, I left it remain unsaid, for fear of overburdening an already policy-heavy comment. But thankfully, you did instead. Cheers, &mdash;  O Fortuna   semper crescis, aut decrescis  14:20, 1 June 2017 (UTC)

Legal Aid Service Providers Network (LASPNET)
Hey Oshwah,

I've emailed you!!!

Gbaluku2 (talk) 07:20, 1 June 2017 (UTC)

Ygm
-- Marchjuly (talk) 21:41, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Marchjuly - Did I respond to your email?  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   01:02, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes, I believe so. -- Marchjuly (talk) 04:43, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

User RijonKhan
Hi, Can you help please? This user blocked at the end of April has returned and is again editing disruptively past final warnings. I've confused myself trying to keep up with him! Thanks. Regards, Eagleash (talk) 00:20, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
 * got 'em, .  —   Gestrid  ( talk ) 02:40, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
 * OK good. 'Twas he blocked them before I think. Thanks. Eagleash (talk) 05:52, 4 June 2017 (UTC)

Review request
Hi, i created a page called Cabum and will like you to please help out with reviewing it thanks..Bloomshouse (talk) 02:41, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi Bloomshouse - It looks like it's a live page; what exactly do you need assistance with regarding Cabum? I'll be happy to help.  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   15:15, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

"Purely disruptive material" on Najibabad
More of the same, obviously by the same person but using a different IP: 15:27, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
 * It has been rev del'd - thanks again for the heads up! :-)  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   15:16, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

Need help
I've been asking around for help and no-one is helping me so I came to you. I made a draft page called Draft:Dinah Liddell (Alice In Wonderland) But it needs images. Me and my Co-Editer BlbAtp do not know how to add them. I have read the guide's and I have a commons profile yet I still don't understand so we need help. Dinah Kirkland (talk) 20:52, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi Dinah Kirkland - Sure, no problem; I can help. Manual of Style/Images should help with providing examples and various guides. I also added some basic examples here for you using the Wikipedia sandbox. Feel free to use that to your heart's content to test things. Let me know if you need additional help and I'll be happy to do so. Cheers! :-)  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   15:12, 7 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Grazie! And does it make a difference that in on my phone? Because the guide's I've followed don't give me an options to add images. Dinah Kirkland (talk) 15:16, 7 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Dinah Kirkland - Prego :-)! I don't believe that the Wikipedia app on mobile has functionality that will allow you to upload images, but I could be wrong. I use the desktop website when I'm on mobile, and my uploads have all been from a computer. Your results may vary.  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   01:04, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:Timeline of computer security hacker history
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Timeline of computer security hacker history. 198.98.51.57 (talk) 04:49, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

UCS
This revert, suggest WP:COMMON next time, regards --Goldsztajn (talk) 09:34, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Goldsztajn - I think suggesting WP:COMMON would have thrown the wrong idea and may have been open for misinterpretation at first glance. It would be like me saying, "reverting because this guy didn't use common sense" - how would that make another editor feel? Bitten? I'd say yes. Which is why I wrote out a custom reason for reverting... the death was just not yet sourced at the time. No biggie ;-)  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   14:44, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

AFD Speedy Delete close request
Hi, is it possible if you can close this AFD discussion? The article was already speedy deleted by another admin. Thanks! – XboxGamer 22408 Talk 16:15, 6 June 2017 (UTC)


 * ✅ I also notified Dlohcierekim to take care of it themselves next time. Regards  So Why  16:50, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

Pokémon UltraSun and UltraMoon
Hi Why did you delete the article ? --Panam2014 (talk) 17:41, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi Panam2014 - That's because it closely resembles a section in another article - see this section. If you have any more questions, let me know.  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   14:35, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

RCFFN Blocked?
Good Day, we would like to have a Wikipedia page for the Richardson Centre for Functional Foods and Nutraceuticals. We are part of the Faculty of Agriculture with the University of Manitoba. We started a Wikipedia page and were messaged that we are blocked indefinitely? We do not understand why, can you explain? We do not sell anything, we are a food research and development centre. 130.179.244.57 (talk) 20:58, 7 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi, what is the username that's blocked? The user doesn't appear to be blocked. Thanks --  ~Oshwah~  (talk)  (contribs)   21:07, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

TBAN Norwalk, Connecticut please help
I appear to have overstepped myself. Could you have a look at Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents and decide if there is a consensus to TBAN JJBers  and  StephenTS42, and maybe close the thing, etc? ThanksDlohcierekim (talk) 22:25, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

Potential misuse of sandbox
Hey! I came across this user's sandbox while scrolling through recent changes: User:Twingrin007/sandbox. The user's contribution to anything outside of the sandbox have been minimal and the only reason for editing the sandbox is for personal amusement. Some of the sections in the sandbox, particularly those that may be seen as attacks towards a particular person are concerning. In the end, it might just be a case of WP:NOTHERE, although I'm not sure if action should be taken against it which is why I wanted to consult you first. Thanks in advance! Jiten Dhandha •  talk  •  contributions  • 06:52, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Issue seems to be resolved, thanks to ! Jiten Dhandha  •  talk  •  contributions  • 12:55, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
 * While we're on the topic of weird sandboxes, I've been monitoring User:Monkey88888888/sandbox for a while now. They seem to be in the same general category as  mentioned above (no very significant edits outside their sandbox).  This one differs in that it's not an attack page at all.  (That deleted version you may see is a copyvio.)  Rather, it seems be someone who's too immature (in the young way, not in the bad way) to be editing here right now.  I haven't reported them since it's not necessarily against policy (as far as I can remember), and they're pretty inactive at the moment.  (After their sandbox was deleted, they said they were moving to Wikia.). Just thought I'd bring it up since we're on the subject.  Maybe you see something I haven't.  —   Gestrid  ( talk ) 14:31, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the report
So thanks anyway for the report anyway. Ehhh I don't know much about Wikipedia's rules because I am just a beginner. So I need your help, please sir? TravisGTAGamer (talk) 12:54, 10 June 2017 (UTC)

Changes to "1982 Invasion of the Falklands" page.
Hi Oshwah, I am trying to understand why several edits to the above mentioned page were reverted. An initial mistake was made whereby the edits were not properly referenced, however subsequent changes were referenced with links, sources, book titles, page numbers etc. and were still changed back. This particular page is riddled with errors and I would very much like to contribute to improve it, however I need your help and guidance on how to do this properly as there is evidently something which is not up to the mark. Could you help me please? Real History Man (talk) 15:24, 10 June 2017 (UTC)

User talk:86.134.212.61
I don't know what's going on with this TP, but the IP seems to have a 'down' on Sro23. Check the history. Thanks. Eagleash (talk) 19:28, 10 June 2017 (UTC)

& Widr too. Eagleash (talk) 19:29, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
 * got 'em.  —   Gestrid  ( talk ) 20:46, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Good. Thanks. Eagleash (talk) 21:05, 10 June 2017 (UTC)

User:MikeHunt123
Hi Oshwah, I know this is a while ago, but can you tell me why you blocked the above account based on the username? Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:25, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Bbb23 - LOL... You haven't heard of "Mike Hunt"? Say it aloud slowly, you'll get it ;-). If you really don't, let me know and I'll explain it.  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   01:10, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Huh. OK, I get it now, and not that it matters after all this time, but what about editors whose names really are Mike Hunt? They can't use the username because of what happens when you say it in a certain way? You oughta use the name in one of those silly RfA quizzes. Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 02:02, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
 * For those who really have this name, I'll AGF if they appeal and make this claim, but this is such a common thing on the internet that I find it okay to block first. And you're right lol... this would be a good one for an RFA! LOL ;-)  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   02:07, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
 * "this is such a common thing on the internet" Obviously, I don't get around enough.--Bbb23 (talk) 02:13, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I feel that way too sometimes. lol  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   02:19, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I think it's very unfair, picking on people cos of their names :( signed, Mike Litoris
 * I'm completely with you on this one. signed, Beezow Doo-Doo Zopittybop-Bop-Bop
 * LOL!  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   19:59, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

Possible sock
Hello Oshwah, user appeared to be a sock of  (a user you blocked two weeks ago). Garg007 was registered today and created LV Private Limited which looks like the recreation or somewhere related to Ligare voyages limited so can you please check. Thank you – GSS (talk |c|em ) 11:00, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
 * GSS-1987 - Thank you, sir! I'm checking into it now.  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   20:06, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

So How Is RD1: Copyright Violation Applied?
I'm genuinely trying to figure out what I did that was blatant copyright infringement. I get that I had some text that (apparently) should not have been on my userpage, due to a miscommunication as to how exactly certain work-in-progress things should happen, but I don't believe any of it was copywritten text. I had quotes from news articles, but only excerpts of a sentence or two in order to illustrate what they were supporting. Could you please clarify? PvOberstein (talk)
 * PvOberstein - I think I jumped the gun too quickly without looking first - that was my mistake and I apologize. Upon looking again, his doesn't seem to be a copyright violation so I've restored the revisions to err on the side of publicity until I get more information. Thank you for bringing your concerns directly to me; I'll inquire further on your behalf :-)  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   04:43, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

Sockpuppet investigations/Hilsea
Hello and thank you for reviewing the SPI.

I have a feeling I didn't write it well enough because I am often pressed for time. I thought I was clear about the shared interests, personal attacks and using unsourced POV conspiracy theories as facts but maybe I wasn't.

See Hilsea edits and summaries  on New Year's Eve sexual assaults in Germany, an article where Calcoform was warned for doing the same. (basically his entire contributions). Could this be the smoking gun you were looking for? I thought it was pretty clear on 2005 French riots, when a nine-month dormant account miraculously becomes activated 15 minutes after Calcoform says he can't edit the page, to edit it exactly how he wants it.

Although the account has been dormant for a year, I see that the SPI didn't mention User:Entreprenante, who edits from time to time on two of Hilsea's favourite France-and-Arabs related articles. Hilsea Entreprenante (many many more diffs); Entreprenante, Hilsea; Hilsea, Entreprenante. Notice Hilsea stops editing this page after a warning in August 2014, (see User talk:Hilsea), then Entreprenante (with only two edits, both to a page created by Hilsea) starts making similar edits and summaries.

I know everybody sees the world in a different way but I can't see how these three accounts don't pass the WP:DUCK test. Anarcho-authoritarian (talk) 13:10, 12 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi Anarcho-authoritarian! Thanks for leaving a message with your thoughts and questions. I apologize for the delay getting back to you - I've been extremely busy in real life, and I'm just now catching up with my messages and emails. When we apply the duck test, you of course want to include similarities that are blatant and obvious, such as making edits to the same page, or vandalism that looks to be the same disruption. However, there are times that the "elephant in the room" isn't enough to go on in itself. Lets take an example: If two different accounts vandalize the Donald Trump article and they both add text that say that he is a bad president or something like that, that's obviously not enough for us to prove that these accounts are the same people. The article subject and topic is a very contentious and controversial one; certainly there are many people who have this opinion and would vandalize the article in the same way and with similar words. In many cases, it's best to find and include evidence that are small, subtle and outside the "the elephant in the room". I'll give you a couple of examples and explain what I investigated in the SPI you mentioned here:


 * First thing I always check: Were these accounts created within a very short time span of one another? Or were any of the suspected accounts created immediately after the master or other suspected sock account blocked or reverted? That's a big one that I always include in an SPI (as well as look at when investigating a report) - if the accounts were created within minutes or a very short time span of one another, that a big red flag... especially if they're both targeting the same pages and with the same kind of disruption... it brings all of the other evidence you provide into perspective.


 * Are they targeting the same pages? Are they making the same disruption such as vandalism, edit warring, or POV editing? Does one account make a disruptive edit for the other account to "conveniently and coincidentally" follow-up with additional disruption after the first is reverted? Do the accounts make edits on top of one another in a sequence? Do they both appear to be working together despite any sort of collaboration between one another? These things help establish a timeline and probability of sock puppetry.


 * Finally, here's a big one: If they're adding very similar content, are they making similar spelling errors? Are they using similar spacing within templates and from bracket edges? Listing things in similar order? Referring to the subject the exact same way? Are they referencing the same sources? Are they recreating pages with exactly the same infobox? Spacing? Bracket use? Wikitext organization? Formatting? This is a subtle thing that will certainly provide significant proof to an SPI report.


 * If you have any questions about my response or about gathering evidence, or if you need my help or input, you're welcome to ask me any time you need it. I'll be happy to assist you. Hope my response was helpful :-)  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   22:16, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

your block of 1.53.59.1
Already back as user:125.209.121.194 Meters (talk) 03:24, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Blocked ;-)  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   13:20, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 June 2017
May I please award you a Admin's Barnstar? :)
 * Hi there! You're always welcome to leave anyone a barnstar! That awards page is a place where I manually copy and list them; barnstars are left on user talk pages. But the one you left was certainly good enough ;-)  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   22:59, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

Mass rollback?
I came across a user who has inserted a promotional link in "external link". At least on 150'articles. Is there any way to easily undo his edits? Maybe through Huggle or AWB?

Also, I pinged you on 's talkpage. Not sure if you received it. Thanks. — usernamekiran (talk)  20:45, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi Usernamekiran - There is! What's the username of the account that did this? Also, I must have missed that ping on Mz7's talk page - I apologize for that. I get A LOT of pings and messages, and it's certainly possible that I missed yours on accident. What's going on there?  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   22:57, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Its an IP user actually. Special:Contributions/192.169.76.205. I found it as I have Meg Ryan in my watchlist. Would you please tell me how to do the mass rollback? I think I should give it a try. The discussion on Mz7's talkspage is about an essay/policy that might need to be created.User talk:Mz7 — usernamekiran (talk)   23:14, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
 * There's a script that adds the functionality. It's located here. And sure, I'll swing by and give it a read - were you looking for my input on this idea?  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   23:18, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Yup. I was hoping to get your opinion if we need such a policy, and suggestions for coming up with an essay first. I included the script here, but it doesnt seem to working while I am on the contribution page of that IP user, I mean I dont see any option "rollback all" or similar. — usernamekiran (talk)  23:55, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Usernamekiran - Fixed. Open the page, look under the "more" menu if you're using the vector skin, and let me know if you see the "rollback all" option.  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   00:01, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Done. And thanks a lot for fixing the script. I hate Java lol. The only reason I could achieve passing score in college, it was combined with FoxPro. — usernamekiran (talk)  00:09, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
 * HA! No worries, my friend. Always happy to help ;-)  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   00:27, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Hello Oshwah. I hope that you are well. I am afraid that I have to inform everyone that the IP was adding links to the Turner Classic Movies website. The site is not promotional. As far as the filmproject is concerned it is a reliable source and is used as a reference in 1000s of articles. Unlike IMDb its content is not user-generated and is fact checked before being posted to the site. The site is a good supplement to WikiP's articles. Its use as an EL is also approved by the filmproject and that is why templates were made (see Template:Tcmdb name and Template:Tcmdb title) to facilitate its use. IMO you should restore the links to the articles that you have removed it from though I wont insist. While I can understand why you had concerns about the addition of the links you could have tried asking at the appropriate wikiproject (in this case Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Actors and Filmmakers and/or Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Film) as well as External links/Noticeboard before you start undoing the work of other editors. Best regards to all. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 00:50, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Okay I just found an other problem. The mass rollback was used improperly here. As you can see the IPs edit did not add an EL. Rollback is a powerful tool - mass rollback even more so - but you really need to pay attention to what you are doing when using it. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 00:59, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I disagree. Use of Tcmdb name looks to violate #1 of WP:ELNO, which has no exceptions for reliable sources. I agree, Usernamekiran could have taken this to the External links noticeboard but I think their instinct to rollback spammy-looking edits were correct. WikiProjects seldom have the trust of the community to issue variances to established norms and I remind you that WikiProjects do not OWN articles, either. Chris Troutman  ( talk ) 01:03, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

They were being removed as promotional which they are not. As to #1 that is your opinion you would have to check on them on a case by case basis to see if any info is repeated. Before O's talk page gets filled with this debate I suggest you post your concerns at the EL noticeboard. I will remind you that TCMbd is not on any blacklist. Until it is its use is not forbidden. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 01:14, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
 * for four times. I reverted all my edits. I apologise for my hasty move. I know it wasnt promotional, but it was suspicious. I saw the first edit on Meg Ryan, so the "classic" looked odd. That site is owned/run by a channel so it felt inappropriate for EL. After taking a look at the user contrib history, he had spontaneously added the links to many articles, so it felt odd. I know the word "promotional" is not accurate here, but I didnt know what other word to use. — usernamekiran (talk)  01:22, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
 * No biggie - mistakes happen :-). We identified the problem and it's fixed - that's what's most important. Thanks for pointing that out, MarnetteD. And thanks for double-checking and confirming, Usernamekiran (as well as for taking feedback so positively). Just remember that if it feels odd or funny to you or you're just not sure, it's best to get another pair of eyes to look too. There's no rush to revert things, and we can always easily fix things later ;-)  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   01:48, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

Hi

I created a very preliminary draft for the essay at User:Usernamekiran/sandbox2. Kindly let me know what you think of it. I haven't added a declaration stating its just an essay and not a guideline. Also, there are some inline notes/comments. Your feedback is much appreciated. Thanks. — usernamekiran (talk)  21:06, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi Usernamekiran - Sure I'll take a look.  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   21:29, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Usernamekiran - I provided some input in the discussion at User talk:Mz7. I'll take a look at your preliminary essay in your sandbox as well. Stay tuned :-)  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   04:32, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

Special:Log revdel
I was looking at the logs and came across your revdels under RD5. I'm relearning the policies after being away so long, and I noticed this: "It is important that the underlying reason for deletion be made clear in the log summary." No big deal, just thought you should know. —Guanaco 03:22, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Guan - I use this reason for things that must be kept ambiguous, such as things that need to be suppressed by the oversight team. See this section of the Revision Deletion policy, and let me know if you have any more questions. I'll be happy to answer them. Cheers :-)  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   03:38, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Ah, fair enough. Feel free to revdel this under RD5 + G7 too, so we don't give away your secret! Though you might consider RD3 which needs no explanation. —Guanaco 03:50, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Guan - Thanks for the follow-up - it's all good, my friend ;-)  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   22:20, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

Wapos Bay
Hello Oshwah,

I am a big fan of the show and have watched all the episodes (except "Long Goodbyes") many times. The source for the brother/sister is in "Dance Monkey Dance", I think & the source for the two different titles for the same episode is the NFB website and others. No big deal. The show airs on FNX daily at 7:00PM & 1:00AM in my time zone. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.178.109.91 (talk) 03:44, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

Removing protection from Talk:Norse cosmology ...
... was not a good idea, since the IP-editor you opened the door for is the same person that caused the protection. Posting the same incoherent rants on the same articles. The IP-editor is also evading a block, since they're currently blocked for a month as Special:Contributions/172.76.127.83. - Tom &#124; Thomas.W talk 08:38, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi Thomas.W! The removal of protection was from a request I received because someone wanted to edit that page. It was going to be automatically unprotected less than a week later, so I went ahead and did so - I felt that siding on the side of good faith was the right call to make... plus, the page was only a few days short from being unprotected automatically anyways :-). Is the talk page still getting hammered with disruption? Do I need to re-apply a lock to it?  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   21:25, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
 * It's fairly quiet on that talk page now that the IP-hopper knows that I'm keeping a close eye on what the're doing (not totally quiet, though, see Talk:Norse cosmology, I have also deleted multiple other posts there), but they're also repeatedly wasting other editors' time by posting incoherent rants and questions on other pages, such as Reference_desk/Language, trying to get other editors' support for their own home-grown theories (see User talk:Bishonen for some info about that...). If they start to repeatedly post the same walls of incoherent text that they have previously posted protection would need to be reapplied, but for the time being at least there's no need for it. - Tom &#124; Thomas.W talk 22:21, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

Rev. Troy Perry Bio updates Johnboswell (talk) 22:16, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
Hi Oshwah:

I have been asked by Rev. Troy Perry to update his Wikipedia page. I had started to do updates a 2-3 weeks ago, then you removed the updates and told me that there were no citations.

I have looked at the "Biographies of Living Persons" (BLPs) page. There are so many details there. I will need to study all of the guidelines.

I'm not sure how to cite certain updates.

For instance:


 * Troy requested the change of "Troy Perry Jr" to "Troy Perry III."


 * He wants to add to his military service "...as a cryptographer with top secret NATO crypto clearance."


 * and other text which he wants to have modified.

Is it possible to "undelete" the changes I've made? Do you need to be in contact with Rev. Perry directly? I can provide you with his private email address.

Please let me know, Oshwah.

Thank you for administering this page and assuring that all of the content is accurate!!
 * Hello! To comply with our BLP policy, you need to cite reliable (make sure that the source can be trusted, i.e. don't use tabloids and stuff like that) published sources (like newspapers, news websites, etc.). If you cannot provide sources to back up the information, then don't include it (the information). To cite sources, you should put the source you used inside reference tags. To do that, you just do . Hope that helps! RileyBugz 会話 投稿記録  22:58, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

PvOberstein copyvios
Here, you asked me for further information about two content forks which were copyvios of Wikipedia. I responded, but you did nothing. If that was deliberate, it's fine with me, I really don't care about the issue. Maproom (talk) 07:04, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi Maproom! Thanks for the further explanation. It wasn't deliberate at all; I've been very busy lately and have only now had the time to catch up with my messages and emails. I apologize if my lack of a follow-up inconvenienced you at all. Please let me know if I can do anything else for you. I'll be happy to help. Cheers --  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   20:17, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
 * .. and now we've had a confusing edit clash. You removed a ref at the same time as I put just below it. I'll go away before I make more mess. Maproom (talk) 20:30, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
 * and I mis-spelled "reflist". Time I stopped trying to edit. Maproom (talk) 20:32, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Maproom - No worries, my friend! It's alright - no big deal. Where did we have an edit conflict at? Do you need help with fixing something?  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   21:07, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Here on your talk page, at #My Page William DeAtley. But no harm has been done, things can safely be left as they are. Some might say I need help with my keyboard skills, but I don't expect you to provide that. Maproom (talk) 21:12, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Oh I see! I just removed the ref tags so that the reference wouldn't hang on the bottom of my talk page and confuse people - that's all. Edit conflicts can be really confusing sometimes - I've been in the middle of really really weird ones. No worries - everything is good ;-)  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   21:16, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

I see you're active at the moment
More "Ryan Ross" at this page. Having seen the recent spurt of vandalism I can safely say it's an attack page... —72 talk 21:57, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Was just going to start a new section about this whole new "trend of vandalism". I've seen way to many edits related to Ryan Ross the past few days (and even earlier, but it has definitely grown). Any idea what all of this is about? I remember something similar happened, but with less intensity, when a youtuber mentioned an error in an article on Wikipedia and people swarmed to vandalize it. Jiten Dhandha  •  talk  •  contributions  • 22:09, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I have no clue where it's originated from, but I'm curious to find out. This vandalism has been going on for at least a few weeks now. What you both saw was part of quite a big mass attack (take a look at my contribs and logs from today and you'll see what I mean). It seems to be under control now, but if any of you see any more of it anywhere, please message me here and let me know so that I can put a quick stop to it. Thanks to you both for your help with this, by the way ;-)  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   22:23, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I've seen way too much of these mass attacks recently, especially multi-IP/multi-page vandalism, usually the kind of stuff that has sock-puppetry/LTA in the block log that also gets revdel'd quickly. I'm hoping that Ryan Ross is probably just another bit of petty disruption, a bit like the mass "fidget-spinner" vandalism I've seen come out of nowhere lately. —72 talk 22:32, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
 * The rate in which just this last wave of disruption came in tells me that this is a mass attack more-so than an LTA. One of those websites (*cough* rules 1 and 2) is what I was thinking... but who knows, I tell myself that I've seen everything, just to be proven wrong over and over again. So I just stop saying that now :-P  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   22:40, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Found the source: (looks like a fan fiction story that was brought to light by someone famous). Also, I noticed that the vandalism is not just surrounding Ryan Ross, but also Brendon Urie. I have a list of 34 accounts that were involved in the vandalism so far, I might've missed a few to be honest, but its probably just worth discarding the list since the vandals aren't worth the time. On a side note, thanks for being so active during this mass attack! Aaand I found another two, Special:Contributions/Emo_Dab and Special:Contributions/Tylerr.jishwa. *sigh*  Jiten Dhandha  •  talk  •  contributions  • 22:41, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Well, that's.... interesting for sure. Thanks for finding this and linking me to it. I guess trolls will be trolls? XD  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   02:27, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for finding the link, ! I'm seeing a lot of additions of the words "Ryden" and "Brendon Urie", as well as very many edits including variants of "The Milk Fic" on their own without the words "Ryan Ross". Is it possible to include these in the edit filter? I can't view it so forgive me for being a bother if that's already been done. —72 talk 11:22, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
 * 72 - You're not being a bother at all. The only thing that the edit filter currently flags are edits that add "Ryan Ross" to an page. I'm about ready to add "Ryden", "Brendon Urie", and others as well. However, I don't want to do so too quickly; it may confuse other editors who are relying on this filter to patrol recent changes. I need to make sure that they have input on this first.  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   11:43, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

I'm in support of the addition of "Ryden" and "Brendon Urie" to the edit filter since they seem to be equally relevant in this vandalism trend. But as Oshwah said, its best to take input from everyone first. It seems like the initial spurt of vandal edits has died down. Hope it stays that way. Also, I have a few accounts in my list that have usernames blatantly violating the username policy by mentioning the word RyanRoss in it (or something similar). Most seem to be "hit-and-run" kinda vandals where the user does one vandal edit and then abandons the account. Should I just ignore those or is it worth reporting them? P.S. Once again, thanks for your quick action on setting up that edit filter. Those darn vandals aint gon' ruin Wikipedia... not on your watch. ;-) Jiten Dhandha  •  talk  •  contributions  • 18:18, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Jiten Dhandha - I've added "Brendon Urie" to the edit filter, but I'm holding off on adding "Ryden" for now. Since we last spoke, we've changed the edit filter to begin disallowing edits that flag it. I need to make sure that adding "Ryden" won't inadvertently start flagging a bunch of false positives... we definitely don't want to do that ;-)  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   19:12, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

More Ryan Ross crap


Hi there, contacting you direct since you've been dealing with it. I'll put it on RFPP if you'd prefer than. Thanks. Murph 9000 (talk) 22:40, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Also . Not sure if it's SOCK or MEAT, but same crap.   Murph 9000  (talk) 22:43, 17 June 2017 (UTC)


 * In case you haven't seen it Oshwah and another editor with the same concerns has started this thread Administrators' noticeboard. It is good to know that so many of you are working on dealing with this. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 22:55, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Rats - messed up my ping so this one is for you . MarnetteD&#124;Talk 22:56, 17 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Yes, I was patrolling when this wave first started to hit. We have an edit filter in place now, which should really help with deterring, tracking, and taking action regarding this wave of disruption. Thank you, Murph9000 and MarnetteD, for keeping on this as well - it's a big help! If any of you see more articles getting hit heavy with anything, you can message me here or report it to AIV or RFPP. Cheers, and thanks again! ;-)  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   02:24, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

Mind clearing the backlog at WP:AIV?
Lots of Ryan Ross vandals in the queue right now, would you mind clearing the list out? Thanks! Jumpytoo Talk 23:54, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
 * On it! :-)  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   23:58, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

No subject
— Alvaro Molina ( ✉  -  ✔ ) 00:04, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Hey there! I'll check my email in a bit and get back to you.  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   04:26, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Answered. — Alvaro Molina ( ✉  -  ✔ ) 17:32, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draycot_Cerne
Draycot Cerne (Draycott) versus Draycot Cerne (inaccurately: Draycott)

I understand and am also concerned about using the word inaccurately because it is a judgment. But it is not my opinion. The reality is that the person who added Draycott was adding a common misspelling because there are people from elsewhere who assume the spelling is exactly like the Draycott village in their locale. There are two reasons why it is important to note that Draycott is inaccurate, primarily because the village's official name is not Draycot or Draycott. The second reason is so that outsiders do not think villagers spell the name as Draycott. When people speak to each other they sometimes say Draycot, but more often they say Draycot Cerne. Maybe it should be Draycot Cerne (sometimes colloquially: Draycot). What do you think?68.40.122.133 (talk) 04:14, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi there! I didn't realize that you had made other contributions to this article, so I restored the other changes you made that didn't appear to involve the concerns raised here. I would side with the spelling that official maps label if it were me, but if the common miss-spelling is referenced in many reliable sources, you could mention this within the article itself in a section. That's what I would do. Please let me know if you have any more questions. I'll be happy to answer them. Cheers :-)  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   04:21, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

Remove article of mayur bhatt
Hi Oshwah, You have deleted an article of Mayur Bhatt Url https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayur_Bhatt. Mayur is my best friend and he is a very good and talented business person. He is working with me from 2009. he developed his business in usa, uk, australia, canada and uae. so, please reset this article as well or if you have any better suggestion then please tell me fo this. Waiting for your response.

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Smilesdental (talk • contribs) 12:34, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi Smilesdental! Thanks for leaving me a message! I'll be happy to answer your questions and help you :-). The article was deleted due to the lack of a credible claim of significance, and for being blatant advertising on behalf of a person. These policies are explained here and here. There appear to be many issues here regarding the creation of this article, one of which being that you appear to have a conflict of interest with the article subject. Creating, editing, or even participating in discussions that involve article subjects that you have a conflict of interest with is highly discouraged behavior. The article appeared to be blatant promotion or self-promotion, and doesn't appear to meet our notability guidelines regarding people. Please review the policies and guidelines I've linked to you here - they will provide you with a full understanding of each policy that I believe to be relevant here. If you have questions after reading them, please let me know and I'll be happy to answer them. Thank you for your message, and thank you for understanding. Cheers --  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   12:42, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

Goa Cusine
I was editing as I contribute to "List of Loanwords in Konnani Language", some of the dishes are marinade and this page has reference that would significantly improve overall quality. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Custyffernandes (talk • contribs) 13:41, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi Custyffernandes, and thanks for leaving me a message here regarding the Goan cuisine article. I just saw your edit here, which removed a bunch of content and didn't explain the removal with an edit summary - no worries though :-). In the future, you'll want to leave edit summaries along with your edits, as they explain your changes and help other editors to understand what you're doing and why. It'll avoid confusion like this in the future ;-). If you have questions or need help with anything, please let me know. I'll be happy to assist! Happy editing! :-D  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   14:23, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

Envision Media Partner Deletion
I was in the middle of editing the page when you deleted it. Why could you not let me finish it at which time you would see there would be no issues with the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Beancake2 (talk • contribs) 19:56, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Beancake2, you need to create the article in draft space if you want to work on it after it's already been created. Otherwise, it will be deleted for lack of context. Home Lander (talk) 20:01, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
 * OK... That makes sense. I'll do that on the next one. Thank you!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Beancake2 (talk • contribs) 20:09, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Beancake2, after looking at your edits, I think you might also want to review WP:COI and WP:PROMO. Promotional content won't be accepted here. Home Lander (talk) 20:16, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

Home Lander Thank you for the guidance. I will do that now. I am still learning. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Beancake2 (talk • contribs) 20:25, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

As an example I just learned how to add my signature on these posts.--Beancake2 (talk) 20:34, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

Question about adding a topic
I have a question about adding a topic. There is no definition or topic on here about "Positive Media Company". This is a new trend in movie and TV production for companies that create inspiring content but do not want to use the label of faith based because it does not fit. I think it would be a great addition. I started to add this with a simple one sentence definition but that was deleted.

What would be the best way to get an article on this posted?

--Beancake2 (talk) 20:39, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Hi Jamesjpk! Thanks for taking the time to leave me this barnstar! It means a lot and I very much appreciate it :-). Of course; you're very welcome and I was glad I could help you out. If you need anything else, don't hesitate to message me or hit me up on IRC and I'll be happy to lend a hand. I hope you enjoy the rest of your weekend and I wish you happy editing. :-D  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   21:30, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

Recent block
You might want to check Sockpuppet investigations/Deep.Earson. Didn't notify the user because it was a pretty obvious duck. TonyBallioni (talk) 22:24, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Looks like it's being taken care of as we speak ;-). Thanks for the message and the heads up about the SPI - much appreciated.  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   22:26, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

One slipped by
hello O. Thanks for your work in dealing with you know who. It looks like one entry slipped through though I'm not sure how. Enjoy the rest of your solstice week. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 23:37, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi MarnetteD! Thanks for the heads up! ✅.  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   23:41, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
 * You are welcome :-) MarnetteD&#124;Talk 23:42, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

Advice needed
Ho Oshwah. Earlier today I (very foolishly) closed an AfD as a merge w/o first looking to see how difficult the merge is going to be. And of course, it looks like it's going to be a pain in the @$$ mainly due to the two articles using different referencing formats. And as the AfD closer I think I should at least help with the merge if possible. Do you have any suggestions on how to do this short of reformatting every single reference from the material I am copying into the new article? -Ad Orientem (talk) 23:51, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi Ad Orientem! Sure, I can lend a hand and help you get this merged. So, it looks like the Bernie or Hillary? article is simply listing all of the references manually under the references section, and then citing them throughout the article using . We need to move the references from the ref list and replace the reference name calls throughout the article, then replace the manual list with  at the end. After we're done doing that, performing the merge will be much easier. If you'd like, I can fix the references on Bernie or Hillary? and get the article ready. Just let me know if you need my help, and I'll be happy to do so ;-)  ~Oshwah~  (talk)  (contribs)   00:10, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks Oshwah! Any help would be much appreciated. I was rather afriad we would end up having to reformat the entire reflist. Sigh... -Ad Orientem (talk) 00:14, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
 * No problem, Ad Orientem! I'm about halfway done. Stand by.  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   00:15, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Holy cow! -Ad Orientem (talk) 00:16, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Alright, you're all set Ad Orientem. I refactored all of the references on the Bernie or Hillary? article here. I also discovered that there was a reference added to the article, but never used. I noted this on the article's talk page here. The content looks messy with the references in-line like they are right now, but it's at least formatted to make merging much much easier. We can always tidy them up later. Let me know if you need anything else, and I'll be happy to help! Good luck with the merge ;-)  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   00:23, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks Osh! You probably just saved me a good hour or more of work. -Ad Orientem (talk) 00:25, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Sure, you bet! Always happy to help :-)  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   00:28, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

122.56.185.177


Hi,

When blocking this IP did you happen to see the block log? Considering the fact that they vandalized fairly soon after their block (soon, considering the fact that the last block was for 1 year), I don't think a short block will stop the vandalism for very long. Regards. 73.52.202.197 (talk) 00:29, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Whoops! Not sure how I let that slide past my ole radar! Thanks for letting me know - .  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   00:30, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

Request for advice
I see that you're active in page protection, which is a chunk of the admin world that I've never really delved into. So, I have a question for you.

An editor left a note on my talk page, asking to have an article (Dick Felt) renamed that he said was about his father, because it's attracting vandalism. I told him that I didn't think the rename would stick, because it appears that his dad was known by that name in his field (football player), but that it might be possible to protect the page. I've poked around, though, and I'm not sure the vandalism is persistent enough to fit the criteria. I can imagine how this guy feels though, so I'd like to help him out if there's a way. Could you please have a look and let me know what you think?

Thanks in advance, Mlaffs (talk) 00:43, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi Mlaffs! Sure, I'll be more than happy to take a look and give you my thoughts and input. The page is definitely not eligible for any kind of protection, as there have only been two edits made to the article this year - so it's definitely long long away from even being considered. While I'm not sure about what the article's title (or this person's name) should be, I think that the best thing to do is use the name that he's known for and referred to by reliable sources. They're what we trust to verify content and information, and they definitely have more weight than anything else. Remember that there's conflict of interest here, which means that the user really must refrain from editing or even participating in discussions involving this article. I do see that he's trying to do the right things: he's making requested moves instead of trying to move the page himself, and I also see participation on the article's talk page - that's great! While he has edited the article in the past, he hasn't done so recently - so major props to him for asking for help instead of turning to disruptive editing like we see many others frequently do. While we can't really verify any editor's claims of relations to article subjects or others, this seems legit to me and WP:AGF definitely applies. We should let him know about WP:COI, offer to be available to help make edits or changes when he needs us to (as opposed to having him make the edits himself), make sure the article is free of vandalism and has good references, and let things go from there. Let me know if you need any more input or assistance from me, and I'll be more than happy to do so. I hope my response helped; please make sure that he knows that I'm available and willing to help as well, in the event you're not online and he needs assistance. Always happy to lend a hand ;-)  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   01:05, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Hmm, I see that this article has no references... let me see what I can't find...  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   01:10, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

Protect My Talk Page
Can you please protect my talk page? I rather listen to users who are not rude and bossy. — FilmandTVFan28 (talk) 01:42, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
 * FilmandTVFan28 - You bet! ✅.  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   01:43, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you. — FilmandTVFan28 (talk) 01:45, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
 * FilmandTVFan28 - Of course; you're very welcome. Don't hesitate to message me if you need anything else. Cheers! ;-)  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   01:47, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you, Ad Orientem! I really appreciate the wikilove and your kind words. Lending a hand to others is something I'll always be willing to do - my talk page is always open. Stop by any time :-)  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   01:56, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I would give him one just for answering our (spammed) cries for help on IRC.  —   Gestrid  ( talk ) 01:58, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

Good job!

 * I should not have pushed the button that said DO NOT PUSH BUTTON, but... what else was I supposed to do? Do they EXPECT ME... to ACTUALLY NOT PUSH IT? I MEAN RIGHT?!!! ....... :-P  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   02:28, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Oh, you should have told me that. I can't understand why people have buttons if not to push them. It makes no sense! RileyBugz 会話 投稿記録  02:30, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
 * In that case..... AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH! :P -- The Voidwalker  Whispers 02:42, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
 * So the only thing I can click is the "Show" button and the "Mark all pages as visited" button?  —   Gestrid  ( talk ) 05:29, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Oh how nice, Oshwah's my scapegoat now :D — k6ka  🍁 ( Talk ·  Contributions ) 12:37, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

What In The World Is Happening Award

 * OH! It's the UPSIDE-DOWN-TILTED NUKE! HOW DO WE PUT THE FIRE OUT?!!! DO WE CALL THE WIKIFIREMEN?!!! HELP!  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   02:39, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
 * No, of course not! We call the WikiGremlins!  —   Gestrid  ( talk ) 05:30, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of User talk:Trust Security Service


A tag has been placed on your user page, User talk:Trust Security Service, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be blatant advertising which only promotes or publicises a company, product, group or service. This is a violation of our policies regarding acceptable use of user pages — user pages are intended for active editors of Wikipedia to communicate with one another as part of the process of creating encyclopedic content, and should not be mistaken for free webhosting resources or advertising space. Please read the guidelines on spam, the guidelines on user pages, and, especially, our FAQ for Organizations.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the. &mdash; O Fortuna   semper crescis, aut decrescis  09:54, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Whoops, forgot to delete this talk page. Oh well; the deed has been done ;-)  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   10:54, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

Incidents from Special:Contributions/DeadPi
Hello. I had been reported this form:

Article related vandalism caused by attacking users, please check here below: Please remove these revisions, it's is a vandalism. Thanks. Prinsipe Ybarro ( Talk to me ) 10:00, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
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 * Is already done? – Prinsipe Ybarro  ( Talk to me ) 10:00, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
 * The user is blocked and the edits have all been reverted. Should be all set ;-)  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   10:54, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

Regarding editing


Continues to unsoucerd content - Prinsipe Ybarro  ( Talk to me ) 10:49, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Prinsipe Ybarro - Issue has been handled. Thanks for leaving me a heads up about this - all taken care of! :-D  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   10:53, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Hello, Oshwah
 * I see that you are now engaged with this IP editor. So, I'd like to give a little more info about him. Geolocation information confirms that this person is a well-known block-evading stalker and disrupter with a very long history of abuse. He is the same person who grossly insulted your fellow admin, Mr. Stradivarius after he discovered him. I have collected a full and comprehensive list of what he has done until today. If you want to see it, just say the word.
 * Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 11:52, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

Reversed edits to Brentwood County High School
You have reversed my edits to the page Brentwood County High School. I am not sure why as the information I added is 100% verifiable. The school was recently inspected by OfSTED - see report here. http://www.bchs.essex.sch.uk/uploads/asset_file/3_5477_bchsofsted2017.pdf Please stop reversing my edits when my additions have been completely factual. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.35.64.185 (talk) 16:35, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
 * AHA! That's what we were missing - a reference to a reliable source. All you need to do is cite a reliable source in-line, and you'll be golden. You can read this guideline to learn how to do this if you're not sure. Please let me know if you have any questions. Cheers --  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   16:43, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

As a die hard Penn State fan, I can tell you that Garrett Sickels' name is indeed speeled els and not les. You can check ESPN, the Penn State football official roster, or the Indianapolis Colts' current roster for further proof. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sakonag (talk • contribs) 19:32, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

Reverting an edit to "Types of Rape"
I added a definition to rape, which was not included on Wikipedia's page. It was immediately taken down. Why was my definition of digital rape deleted? Why was it not included in the first place?

unknown reason for removing my edit on a weed in the USA and other countries
Please explain why you thought my edit was removed, as it was truthful and unbiased. I can revise my edit to remove any part of the following edit that you removed. I want to warn people of the weeds risk or dangers. If you want me to remove "In the USA", I can do that. Here is the edit I added to Galium aparine, Effects on body:

In the USA, this is a weed that can cause excessive itchy rashes, blistering, and can be somewhat like the reaction to poison ivy. It tends to stick to one's skin first and if one's skin is scratched while doing gardening and weeding, the sticky plant can cause excessive irritation that starts in the scratched areas and that can last for up to a few weeks. It can also cause rashes that spread and continue to itch. Eating the plant would be ill-advised and one should avoid skin contact to it. When removing it, use a long rake and twirl the rake to pick up the long extension arms of the weed which climbs over and in bushes and garden ground. Always keep skin covered with long sleeves and wash clothing after wearing it during weeding. Cold water washing of skin with soap several times can often remove any remnants left by plant on the skin. It should be done soon after skin contact to avoid later rashes and itching. For the many who have reactions to this plant, wearing gloves and long sleeves and long pants while removing them is a necessity.

77.234.46.147 (talk) 23:06, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

Please look before you shoot
Not every IP is out there to cause mayhem. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.193.240.161 (talk) 23:28, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Statistics disagree with your assertion. Chris Troutman  ( talk ) 23:33, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Probably just a misfire. Nothing to worry about. Also,, statistics agree with the IP's assertion:


 * RileyBugz 会話 投稿記録 23:37, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the stats! (they make me happy!) 88.193.240.161 (talk) 23:57, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
 * (X 2) Hi there! If you're referring to my removal of your comment here from WP:AIV, then I agree that your intention was not to cause mayhem and I owe you an apology. I made the reversion on accident and had the diff on one of my browser tabs (my "to-do list") to revert myself and fix, but I got sidetracked with an urgent matter and didn't get around to it. Sigh... so many things to do, so little time! Thanks for the message, and I apologize for the confusion.  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   23:39, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the apology and no worries, we all make mistakes. Have a nice day Sir! 88.193.240.161 (talk) 23:57, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

FYI
You are being named here: mynewbestarticles.blogspot.com/2017/06/who-is-onel5969.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.134.48.153 (talk) 01:21, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Huh. Interesting. I disagree that the page protection request wasn't necessary, but everyone is going to have different thoughts and views. We can't please everyone... what's the best thing to do? See past the "drama" and do what is needed to protect the encyclopedia and do whatever it is possible to help those who make positive contributions to be able to easily do so with as little red tape possible that would get in their way. That's what's most important and I will always stand by that. Thanks for sharing :-)  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   01:52, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

Trying to add an Infographics
Hi Oshwah Yes I'm new to editing on Wikipedia, I wanted to add my contribution to the topic "Domain Name System" with an illustration to help readers visualise how the DNS works. I look forward to your helpful advice.

The page I am referring to is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domain_Name_System

Many thanks Charles

Julia May Courtney
Hello. Previously I created a page for Julia May Courtney. It was deleted by you for copyright issues. Since then the website (http://www.andreageyer.info/revolttheysaid/a.html) that contains the information has added proof of licensing under a Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License on each page. I believe this issue should now be cleared up but I wanted to inform you before I created it again. Thanks. --Salea248 (talk) 02:59, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Hey Oshwah, please see Diannaa and my note on their talk page. CC-BY-SA 4.0 is not a WP compatible license. (You very well might already know this, but the licensing scheme can be complex so thought it worth dropping a line). TonyBallioni (talk) 11:43, 12 July 2017 (UTC)

David Bailey wiki
Hi Oshwah,

I just removed a mistake on the David Bailey page. As you can see on the right in the info box there is Bailey's - correct - year of birth: 1938.

Thank you, Steven — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.157.208.13 (talk) 11:31, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

Tariel Vasadze page editing
I recently edited part of page dedicated to Tariel Vasadze (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tariel_Vasadze ) due to incorrect information about business-jets which as reported at the page owner he was. As I know, mentioned planes had never been belong to him. So if it possble, content of the page should be revised. THNX a lot Loomsperk (talk) 11:52, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

Tiruchirappalli International Airport
Dear Oshwah,

In the Tiruchirappalli International Airport page the user name called "Amdmustafa" and "Anandprakash1999" are spamming this thread by deleting the useful posts what I have posted at yesterday evening (IST) time. I gave the details like Hotel availability, Pharmacy and e-Visa facilities in Tiruchirappalli International Airport, but these two users are deleted and spamming this thread. Request to look into this please.

Thanks & Regards, N. Prasanna — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nprasanna (talk • contribs) 14:55, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

new to editing on Wikipedia
Hi Oshwah, I'm not trying to cause offence or do anything wrong but I am new to Wikipedia and I just want to add some of my history to the Easington Colliery site where I grew up and worked as a miner, I wrote the Easington song that got made into a single and I just wanted to add the info to the site that's all, but I'm not sure how to do it properly, can you please advise or show me the correct procedure to add the info with out causing offence to anyone? my email is: phammond89@yahoo.com thanks peter, lee hammond — Preceding unsigned comment added by Blackbird007blackbird (talk • contribs) 16:41, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

Random Questions out of Curiousity
Hello,

Thank you for being a great administrator on Wikipedia. I just have some questions about Wikipedia users. How do users/administrators detect errors or vandalism so quickly on remote pages of Wikipedia? I admit I did some tomfoolery in the past, and learned my mistakes, but I am amazed that the users find it so quickly, in literally seconds, when Wikipedia has thousands of edits per minute. Also, in the talk page, how do we get messages within seconds as well? It is truly amazing, but I am just curious about the efficency and speed of Wikipedians.

Thank you.

Hummerrocket (talk) 17:50, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I hope a lesson was learned here. I've yet to see evidence you've learned. Chris Troutman  ( talk ) 18:35, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

Page recreation after an AfD...
Can you please offer some advice at this thread on my talk page.Thanks! Winged Blades Godric 10:12, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Already taken care of!Cheers! Winged Blades Godric 07:13, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

Glencoe village
This is from the Wikipedia page on the massacre:-

Early in the morning of 13 February 1692, in the aftermath of the Glorious Revolution and the Jacobite uprising of 1689 led by John Graham of Claverhouse, a massacre took place in Glen Coe, in the Highlands of Scotland. This incident is referred to as the massacre of Glencoe, or in Scottish Gaelic Mort Ghlinne Comhann, or murder of Glen Coe. The massacre began simultaneously in three settlements along the glen—Invercoe, Inverrigan, and Achnacon—although the killing took place all over the glen as fleeing MacDonalds were pursued. Thirty-eight MacDonalds from the Clan MacDonald of Glencoe were killed by the guests who had accepted their hospitality, on the grounds that the MacDonalds had not been prompt in pledging allegiance to the new monarchs, William and Mary. Another forty women and children died of exposure after their homes were burned.

Also a read of any of the histories of the massacre will back this up - I suggest John Prebble's book Glencoe — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7D:8091:DB00:D088:E86A:5AD6:52B7 (talk) 11:13, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

Tips
How do I make a wiki page? Pokemongavin662 (talk) 11:27, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Pokemongavin662 - If it's your first time, you should create a draft at Articles for creation - other users will help you by reviewing your content before its submitted. If you'd rather have a wizard guide you instead, see Your first article. Let me know if you have any questions about these pages. Good luck! :-D  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   08:42, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

streptococcus pyogenes
ur main article already stated that it is gram +ve cocci instead of bacilli. Cocci means round shape and bacilli means rod shape so bacilli is misleading the readers. Please read again and tqvm

Brusselmans
Hey Oshwah

You are absolutely right. I am just unhappy that this guy keeps getting a forum to spread his malice. I should have known better than to adapt a page that is ought to be well-kept neutral. :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.11.161.11 (talk) 12:00, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

Not neutral?
Dear Oshwa,

You have advised that you do not think an edit I have made to Andrew Gerard Hill career, was neutral. I believe it is perfectly neutral and is factual and serves only to provide additional relevant information to what has already exists. If I can answer any questions regarding the suggested information, I would be pleased to assist.

Many thanks86.97.65.90 (talk) 12:10, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

NPOV- Hyles-Anderson College
The attribute is very true, having been to HAC several times when I was involved with Lighthouse Baptist Church in Tennessee- which the pastor, Dave Baker, is very close to HAC. The structure of the church, as well as the stratification of women, and the use of younger college students by pastors and members of the deaconate (who were elderly), are very synonymous. As well, the planting of churches with identical doctrine, which ultimately is to turn the United States into a Christian theocracy, based on their dominionist beliefs. I made the edits in mind with NPOV, since there are many that do agree with the notion of HAC being an inspiration. Thank you for your time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.56.129.196 (talk) 12:11, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

AIrport
While JetBlue has not confirmed that start date that is their estimated start date. I suggest at least leaving the destination up or putting it somewhere else on the page for planespotters to know that a new flight is coming — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:183:4100:83F:390D:ECA1:21FF:E0B2 (talk) 12:19, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

sycophant
Oh, come on! My edit perfectly reflects modern usage of this often misused word. — Preceding unsigned comment added by S-Couture (talk • contribs) 12:28, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

Personal attack?
Would this accusation of anti-Semitism constitute a personal attack? I haven't responded or communicated with the editor who made the accusation, but I would like your opinion, please. Thanks. ---  The Old Jacobite  The '45  13:08, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi TheOldJacobite - Sorry for such a late reply to your question and request for input. I'll be happy to take a look, but I don't see it on the talk page. Can you provide me with a diff to the exact edit that adds the possible accusation to the page?  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   08:45, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your reply, but the matter has been dealt with at ANI. Cheers! ---  The Old Jacobite   The '45  12:05, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

sycophant defined/refined
Oh come on! My addition perfectly reflects this term's modern usage. I can add references if you wish.

S-Couture (talk) 13:10, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
 * In addition to being unsourced, your edit did not reflect a neutral point of view concerning the content of the article or the subject of your edit, so would not be accepted even if sourced. For example, you attempt to describe the motives of those who spoke at this event, something you cannot possibly know (and the word "seemingly" doesn't make your description anything more than speculation). Unless and until reliable sources use the term specifically to describe those involved in the incident you described, we cannot use it here, and only then without original research and speculation.  General Ization  Talk   14:36, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

Bit of a conflict
I think we got our wires crossed a bit here. I assumed the author blanked it once they realized they mucked up the caps on the title, but it looks like I moved it to the correct title about a split second before you deleted what you thought was the wrong title, and apparently the delete followed the move. I'm not sure if it was a big deal, I don't think there was a substantive page history that would require a hist merge. But it might not hurt to take sec to look and make sure. Timothy Joseph Wood 19:19, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi Timothyjosephwood - Whoops! Oh well; at least it's fixed now. If it's not fixed or if you need my assistance with anything else, you know where to find me ;-)  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   08:47, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

White Water
Yes, you did make a mistake. What you erased was correct and needs to be put back. I know everything there is to know about White Water and I know what Im doing. Everything I put on a page needs to stay there because it is correct, it does belong there, and people need to know it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Laroyl (talk • contribs) 22:37, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Laroyl, you need to add citations and references to the content you're adding. See Citing sources and Reliable sources - these guides will help you. If you have questions, let me know. Cheers --  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   08:49, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

Block of User:Paramount Pctures
I formally request that you unblock User:Paramount Pctures, as the user name does not, in fact, violate the Username policy. That policy prohibits, but given the spelling, this name does not do so. The policy also prohibits, but I see no such implication here. On what grounds did you block? Note that I am prepare to unblock this user myself, but would prefer to discuss the matter first, as suggested by the blocking policy. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 02:37, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I think "given the spelling, someone mis-typed. This block is otherwise entirely within the norm seen at WP:UAA. I appreciate that you left this message to ask first, as I think un-blocking would be a mistake. The target, by the way, is arguably WP:NOTHERE. Chris Troutman  ( talk ) 02:43, 22 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Well,, I am a fairly frequent responder at WP:UAA which is why i keep a link to it on User:DESiegel/Tools. Had I seen this there, i would have declined it with . See also WP:TH where this user first came to my notice. My comment above stands. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 02:51, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Then I think we'd have a hard time blocking half the accounts that get blocked using your judgement. I would have reported the name to UAA under exactly the logic provided. Chris Troutman  ( talk ) 03:04, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I think we block far too much as it is. Something like 1/3 of the current rate might be about right. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 03:39, 22 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Hi DESiegel - I applied a username block based on the fact that the username resembled a company name. Even with the missing letter in 'Pictures', I felt that the username still fell into the 'company name' username policy guidelines. You're of course welcome to unblock the user; I have concerns and I still believe the username to be a violation of WP:UPOL, but I also agree with you out of principle and I don't object to you with unblocking at all. If there's a block that comes into question (such as this one), unblocking is usually always better than blocking. Please let me know if you have any more questions or concerns, and I'll be happy to answer them. Thanks for leaving me a message with your concerns, and I hope you have a great day :-)  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   18:17, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
 * DESiegel, I happened to notice this discussion. I endorse the block and think it was quite correct, given that the user clearly intended the name to be read as "Paramount Pictures", and the minor typo does not change that it will in fact be read that way (I doubt most people even notice the missing letter). At the very least, as you do not seem to have gained much support for your position, I think the matter should be taken to AN rather than handled by a unilateral unblock if you still wish to challenge it. Seraphimblade Talk to me 04:21, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

you threaten to block me
you took away my edit from the cake boss wiki and threaten to block me. how come when carlos bakery employer sal passed away it shows (1947- january 30, 2011). but today june 22,2017 when buddy announced on all his social media accounts that his mother (mary) passed away today we cant put 19??-june 22,2017 on there to show people that another person has passed away. and by the way if it was the non found source you were going to block me by, it was jist about to add it but i pressed submit instead — Preceding unsigned comment added by Spanisharabic (talk • contribs) 18:34, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

Long due CSD nomination
Hey! I found this page: Category:2020 in France while going through my CSD log (this is the second time this page is under a CSD nomination, with the first time being done by me) and I realized that it has been up for CSD for three days now. I think its safe to say that the category doesn't really add anything of value to Wikipedia and can be deleted. Jiten Dhandha •  talk  •  contributions  • 22:23, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
 * ✅  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   22:27, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

Added citations
I have added citations to the David Clarke(sheriff) page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by KG1138 (talk • contribs) 23:38, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Awesome! :-D  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   08:50, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

Shepherd's Pie image edit
Hi, you messaged me about an amendment I made to remove a totally inappropriate and wholly unrepresentative image of a "Shepherd's Pie", suggesting I had done it unintentionally, as you believed I hadn't provided an edit reason. No, it was intentional and I did enter edit reasons, so I'm unclear how you are not seeing them? I am typing the reason in the "Reason for editing" field and made it clear why I have done so. The image now on the page is a correct example of Shepherd's Pie. Hopefully you can see the reasons for editing and understand why. The previous, and now replaced image, would not be acknowledged as a Shepherd's Pie by anyone who has ever eaten one or made one. I am a professional chef of over thirty years standing, so can speak with absolute authority on the what a Shepherd's Pie looks like and what the ingredients of the dish are. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.93.6.92 (talk) 23:46, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

Source editor
Why the source editor is the default editing mode for unregistered users? 24.50.204.75 (talk) 23:55, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure what your question is - can you please elaborate? I'll be happy to help you once I understand where you need assistance at :-)  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   08:51, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

Talkpage
Is this right: on talk pages, "Read | Edit | New section | View history" is only visible to IP (unregistered) editors, and "Read | Edit source | New section | View history" for registered editors (new, (auto)confirmed, extended confirmed, bot, admin, bureaucrat etc)? 24.50.204.75 (talk) 23:55, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

Reviving a defunct WikiProject
Hey Oshwah. Hope you are well.

Currently, me and user Northamerica1000 are working on revival of wikiproject organised crime. He has been helpful a lot. The discussion regarding this task has taken place at several places, mostly at Notheramerica's talkpage. I would love to hear your suggestions/ideas about how to improve the wikiproject, and how to attract editors to the project (even if not "full-time"). Also, I have doubts about "how to post the project template on so many articles that fall under the project's scope", and "how to create a list like this?" I heard both of these tasks can be done through bots, but I dont know how to get it done.

Kindly reply at your convenience, and whenever you (or TPS) reply to me, kindly ping me. There is no hurry of any sort, as I am still working on some background stuff regarding to that project. Thanks a lot again. :-) — usernamekiran (talk)  00:01, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Usernamekiran - Sorry for the delayed response - do you still need help here? Let me know.  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   08:52, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

Kindly reply at your convenience, and whenever you (or TPS) reply to me, kindly ping me. There is no hurry of any sort, as I am still working on some background stuff regarding to that project. Thanks a lot again. :-) — <span style="font-family: monospace, monospace;">usernamekiran (talk)  00:01, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Usernamekiran - Sorry for the delayed response - do you still need help here? Let me know.  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   08:52, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
 * lol. No need to apologise :)
 * that issue is currently being taken care of (User talk:Usernamekiran/Archives/ 11).
 * But I would love to have your opinion here: User talk:Primefac.
 * A side note: I am in theoretical computing, in operating systems. I love old computers/OS. Abraham Silberschatz. — <span style="font-family: monospace, monospace;">usernamekiran (talk)  10:03, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
 * erm... I didn't understand this. I hope I didn't do anything wrong/bad. — <span style="font-family: monospace, monospace;">usernamekiran (talk)  12:43, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Usernamekiran - Nope, looks like a mistake on my part or we might have saved conflicting revisions and no edit conflict was flagged - either way, you didn't do anything wrong. Heh, I didn't even realize I did that until you pointed it out... lol. I fixed it by manually merging everything - all is good ;-)  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   16:27, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

No Subject
— Alvaro Molina ( ✉  -  ✔ ) 00:15, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Answered. — Alvaro Molina ( ✉  -  ✔ ) 00:27, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
 * All set.  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   08:52, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

Ops
Ops — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.166.134.154 (talk) 07:36, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

Aura (paranormal)
I'm sorry to bug you about this, but please reconsider semi-protection? The IP-hopping editor yet again changed the referencing style without explanation (the article was previously protected for the same reason in the past). There is no way to know why this occurs because there never was discussion (other than by another editor who significantly contributed, with myself on the talk page). It seems to me that semi-protection on a rather stable article is easier than having to deal with IP-hopping disruptive editing... Or should I just keep reverting whenever this happens as a de-facto deny until they discuss? Thanks, — Paleo Neonate  - 11:50, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi PaleoNeonate! I hope you're doing well! Well, shucks... I'm looking at the article again, and I see what you're seeing - disruption by different IPs, which come back to being from a mobile provider and with a really wide range. I agree that something needs to be done, but I can't protect this page either... the rate and frequency of disruption doesn't call for that. Let me look into the contributions from a few subnet ranges and figure out how to properly take care of this. Thanks again for your message; I'm looking into it ;-)  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   12:06, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Great, thanks. I've also asked the help of someone else who also does citation cleanup to eventually see if there's anything obviously wrong with the citations which I fail to notice, in case that's what this address attempts to fix (albeit awkwardly)...  — Paleo  Neonate  - 12:12, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Also of interest may be Talk:Ghostbusters_(franchise) where I suspected the same editor to be the one disruptively editing that article. — Paleo  Neonate  - 12:20, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
 * PaleoNeonate - Just following up with your message here. Looking at this now, it seems that editing has stopped since the 23rd (which is what I predicted to happen, really). This is why I held off with adding protection. Things look to be okay now, but if that changes and you need me to take another look, let me know and I'll be happy to do that. Cheers! :-D  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   08:54, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
 * You're right, it has been rather quiet recently. The aforementioned editor (who I invited to audit the citation style) also made minor improvements and added the page to his watchlist, which is likely to help when/if the editor changes the citation style again.  It still puzzles me why this editor was so insistent, I wondered if there couldn't be a mirror site that doesn't support all citation templates where this article is being synchronized.  But how will we ever know without a single message from them.  Thank you very much for the followup.  — Paleo  Neonate  - 09:20, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
 * PaleoNeonate - You're going to run into many editors who are "insistent" (as you put it) like this. It's hard at times to discern a user's intent by looking at their edits alone - hell, I still face challenges with doing it correctly sometimes. What makes it easy, though is that we're supposed to give the benefit of the doubt if the situation is at all unclear. That policy actually makes life easier if you think about it, you know? ;-)


 * When it comes to adding page protection, I typically only consider it if the disruption or problematic edits are occurring by more than one user. In my mind, if we've applied page protection to an article solely because of the disruption or edits by one person (other than mass flooding of vandalism by an LTA user or course... lol), it's typically because we failed somewhere and didn't do our due diligence first. We either haven't educated the user in good faith and offered to help so that they'll understand and learn, or we haven't warned the user properly and reported them to the proper channel so that it's handed on an individual basis. If anything, protecting a page due to the actions of only one user would be giving them what they want if their intent is to disrupt to get their way - "Okay, I'll disrupt the page, then get it protected so nobody else can edit it". I try not to give the squeaky wheel the oil if you know what I mean ;-).


 * But fear not... this stuff all comes with experience; we all improve and become more proficient in areas like this over time. I'm glad you appreciated the follow-up. Let me know if you need my assistance with anything - you know where to find me! :-D  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   09:50, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

Edward Hargraves
Hello Oshwah,

Sorry I didn't notice you's removed it .. virtually whilst I was still refining it .. you can delete it again if you like ....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Hargraves ) Wikipedia entry:

"""""""""""

The University of Sydney owns a piece of gold known as the "Hargraves nugget", and which has been on display loan to various Australian museums. It is deemed to be a priceless piece of Australiana - believed by many to be what started the Gold Rush. The accepted account is that Hargraves' partners, William Tom and John Lister handed over to him all the gold they had found at Ophir — one two-ounce nugget, a 1/4-ounce (heart-shaped) nugget, one 3/5-ounce nugget, a small amount of granular gold and about 3/4 ounce of very small gold pieces. Hargraves then had his metallurgist friend, Enoch Rudder, meld some of this into one lump or "nugget" to make a more impressive sight. He took that to Bathurst to talk on gold and the morning after he showed that "nugget" the rush was on to where he said it came from, later on named Ophir. The exact history of this unusual specimen has continued to be pondered on by geologists of Sydney's now defunct Geological and Mining Museum, and writers on first gold discovery such as Lynette Ramsay Silver who generated some elements of controversy following a 1997 book "Fabulous Furphies: 10 Great Myths from Australia's Past" by her and Edward Wybergh Docker, and from media interviews she gave when the nugget was on public display. Doubts expressed that it might not even be from Ophir caused the University to have forensic metallurgy carried out. Results were was not fully conclusive but favoured it containing Ophir gold.

""""""""""""

The reference is:

Fabulous furphies : 10 great myths from Australia's past / Edward Docker & Lynette Silver

Bib ID 64343

Format BookBookOnline

Author

Silver, Lynette Ramsay, 1945-

Description Burra Creek, N.S.W. : Sally Milner Publishing, 1997 244 p. ; 23 cm.

ISBN 1863511849

Notes

Bibliography.

Subjects Australia -- History -- Errors, inventions, etc.

Other authors/contributors

Can you help me properly reference that? Thanks, John — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.173.27.252 (talk) 12:38, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi there! Have you read Wikipedia's guide on how to cite sources? This page will provide you with the assistance you're looking for. Let me know if you still have questions or need help with citing sources after going through that guide, and I'll be happy to answer them.  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   18:27, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

Savio Vega
Hi I'm savio vega yes I made few change in my info like the year the I born in the page say I born in 1964 went I born 1965 Also info of history events and places feel free to contact me my email is saviovega4@gmail.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by Savio vega (talk • contribs) 14:00, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Savio vega - See Wikipedia's guidelines on conflict of interest. In a nutshell: you shouldn't modify, edit, or even participate in discussions that involve topics or article subjects that you have a personal conflict of interest with. Doing so makes it nearly impossible to write content that reflects a neutral point of view. You should instead focus on different articles that you don't have a conflict of interest with and that interest you. It's an important principle on Wikipedia for all content to be neutrally worded and reflected; conflict of interest makes this principle nearly impossible to justify such. Please let me know if you have any questions about this guideline. I'll be happy to answer them. Thank you for understanding --  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   18:32, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

User:Hazza74
Hi Oshwah. Would you mind taking a look at Special:Contributions/Hazza74? It's a new account with only three edits who keeps on trying to add negative information about some referees to 2016 NFL season. I can't tell if this just a fan holding a grudge or an actual good faith attempt to add such information. Of course, negative information is not automatically bad if verifiable and relevant, but not sure what can be done without any citations to reliable sources for verification. Moreover, the editor does not seem to be checking their user talk, so not sure if a more personal messgae would help them understand what is needed. I don't think this has reached the WP:ANV stage yet, but the account will likely end up there or at WP:AN3 if it continues to make these types of edits. Any suggestions on how to best handle this? -- Marchjuly (talk) 06:43, 25 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Marchjuly - Whelp, the content s/he's trying to add is unreferenced, so that's the user's first problem (lol). I'd leave a custom message on the user's talk page, offer to help the user, let them know what the issues are, and provide him/her with the appropriate guides (WP:NPOV, WP:CITE, WP:RS). We should try and assume that the user wants to learn and understand. If the edits keep happening after that, warn further and report it it gets out of hand. Let me know if you have any more questions or need my input - I'll be happy to do so ;-)  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   08:57, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for taking a look at this. Perhaps the links you provide will get a better feel for what Wikipedia's policies are for such content, especially when it's related to living persons. -- Marchjuly (talk) 09:40, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

IP 68.228.254.131
Since I'm here I might as well also ask you about IP 68.228.254.131. This is an account you previously blocked for disruption. For some reason, the IP has been engaging blanking their user talk page even removing the sharedIP template which I'm not sure they are allowed to do per WP:BLANKING. I didn't originally add the template and maybe it's not applicable in this case, but the IP is not really giving any explanation as to why it is being removed. -- Marchjuly (talk) 06:50, 25 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Looks like this issue has been taken care of and the IP is blocked. Let me know if you need my assistance with anything else ;-)  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   18:48, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for taking a look at this. Also, my bad for fogetting to update you when I saw that another admin had blocked the IP. -- Marchjuly (talk) 21:31, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

User talk:Youth Setbo FC
Since good things are said to come in threes, here's one more that you an perhaps help with. was softblocked for a username violation. I asked the blocking admin for clarification about this at User talk:GorillaWarfare and it seems that a change in username is all that is needed to get the account unblocked. The editor, however, does not seem to understand this or dore not seem to care and has been repeatedly copying-and-pasting Cambodia national football team onto their talk page for some reason: perhaps they are working on a draft. Unfortunately, they will never get anywhere as long as they are blocked, and also might get labled as WP:NOTHERE or WP:IDHT if they continue to use their talk page likes. They also might have accidentally edited why logged off. Once again, any suggestions you might have on how to help this editor out before it's too late would be appreciated. -- Marchjuly (talk) 07:00, 25 June 2017 (UTC)
 * FWIW, I left this message on their user talk, but it was removed and the editing continued as before. Perhaps this user's English ability is not very good and they are unable to understand the posts/edit sums being left? -- Marchjuly (talk) 10:00, 25 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi Marchjuly - Yeahhh, usernames with Something Something FC (with the letters FC at the end and spaced like that) are an indicator that it represents a Football team or Football club (which is what the FC letters stands for). GorillaWarfare is correct in that a username change request or the creation of a new account with an acceptable username is all the user needs to in order to continue editing as before. Yes, it does appear that there might be a communication issue here. I've replaced the content on the user's talk page with the block notification. Let's see what happens from there. Let me know if you need anything else and I'll be happy to help. Cheers --  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   18:56, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you for checking on this. I understand and agree with the username block. I'm just not sure the blocked user understands it. The talk page has been blanked a few times by others, but the content kept being added. I did try to explain what had happened and offered to move the content to a user subpage, but that post was just removed and replaced by the same content. Maybe the block notice you added will help, but GorillaWarefare added a similar notice and it was just removed. I wonder if the editor's English ability might be an issue here. -- Marchjuly (talk) 21:37, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Well, if it happens again, let me know. There's a certain point that we can safely assume that the user knows and chooses not to follow instructions - I'm hoping that it won't go there :-D  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   09:00, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

creating an article
hello dear admin

Im an engineer and i was used Wikipedia articles and these are interesting.

Now i want to service to Wikipedia by creating new articles and improving old articles. at first Im going to introduce famous Turkish business man.after that i will introduce American business man. but one of famous Turkish business man who has not Wikipedia is sedat sonmez if you search his name on google you can see +200 news about him and his activities on the most famous Turkish news website database.hi is very notable than other Turkish business man which has Wikipedia.

but since one blocked admin was created that now I cant create it — Preceding unsigned comment added by Diegotoreto (talk • contribs) 08:10, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

please help me and guide me to be best in this field an.

I want to be such as a one disciple and if you accept this it makes me so happy.

best regards Diegotoreto (talk) 07:54, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

A username hiding which appears to be wrong
I see that you RevDel-ed this entry, as a "serious BLP violation". However, the username says nothing about any currently living person - it refers only to Alexander Hamilton, who died in 1804. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 04:26, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi Od Mishehu - Thank you for the message and for the heads up. I just saw this username in the new user logs and thought that it might be an LTA or a possible attack or libelous username, which was the reason for the revdel. I guess it wasn't to a BLP after all... that's a relief. If you don't see an issue with the username, feel free to undo the revdel that I placed. I was err'ing on the side of caution in case there was a BLP or real person with that name. Thanks again for the message - much appreciated :-)  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   18:19, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
 * While there are some living people by this name, the articvle by this name is about a person who died in 1804; combined with the use of the past tense, I would say that the chance that this user name refers to a living person are slim. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 18:35, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I agree; it does appear to be slim. Thanks again for the message and for your input regarding this username. Let me know if you have questions or need anything else :-)  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   18:46, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

Double revert at Thymus
Hi, have you seen my reply at User talk:CiaPan?

I tried to notify you with a  template, but due to the lack of any comment I'm not sure if you received a ping, so I decided to write here. Please make any note there ('yes' or 'ok' or 'need more' ar anything) so I know the conversation is closed, not broken. --CiaPan (talk) 12:23, 27 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi CiaPan! Thanks for the message regarding your reply. No worries; I appreciate the follow-up. Let me know if you need my help with anything and I'll be happy to do so :-)  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   18:14, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
 * OK. :) --CiaPan (talk) 07:00, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

My phone's been used
Hello. Call me MDL. I contact you because you reported a vandalizing edit from my IP. Fact is, I don't rebember doing such a thing. I didn't recognize the changes you reported I made. How can I report this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.125.60.210 (talk) 14:06, 27 June 2017 (UTC)
 * You should create an account - this will resolve the issue with warnings and issues that are being sent to you for edits that others may be making on the same IP.  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   18:12, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

FYI
You may have been recently contacted by Ss112 regarding their ongoing issues with Calvin999. I posted a note on Calvin's talk page and have invited the two to try and sort out their differences here since they seem to have mutually excommunicated one another from their own talk pages. Feel free to jump in if you have any suggestions. -Ad Orientem (talk) 02:40, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi Ad Orientem! Thank you for the message and for the heads up - I'll jump in and take a look :-)  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   18:10, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Actually it looks like they have settled on terms that allow for peaceful co-existence. They appear to have divided up the subjects that they both like to edit and have agreed not to cross into each other's sphere. -Ad Orientem (talk) 18:51, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

Mac-compatible
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 * DoctorWho42 - HA! That's awesome! I'm not a cheeto fan myself, but... aww what the hell, I'll grab a handful just for you ;-)  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   03:28, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

The Crown (TV series)
Hi Oshwah, I noticed you were briefly involved in what seems to be an edit war at The Crown (TV series). What do you make of it? I was about to protect (perhaps full) the page for a short time, but wanted to ask you if you are more in the know of the situation. Cheers, MikeLynch (talk) 13:32, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
 * MikeLynch - Other than protecting the page on the 20th, I don't have much insight to offer. Looks like it was back-and-fourth trolling or vandalism by an IPv6 user. Looks like the disruption is back... Let me know if you have any more questions or if you need anything. I'll be happy to help :-)  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   18:09, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

Interesting page
Do you have any socks that have an axe to grind with you? Your name makes an interesting appearance at this test page that I found in namespace. TonyBallioni (talk) 15:59, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
 * See Special:Contributions/64.237.239.160. They overlap at RFPP. Timothy Joseph Wood  16:07, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
 * The better question to ask is "how many socks" have an axe to grind with me, rather than "if" ;-)  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   18:08, 29 June 2017 (UTC)