User:PalestineRemembered/MentorshipVarious

Page for assorted bits "related to Mentorship"

 * I trust the allegation of edit-warring was a mistake. This is not something I've ever done, not at these diffs nor anywhere else.
 * And the "revert-warring" allegation must fall at the same hurdle - since in every case, my proposed edits have either stuck or been taken up by others.
 * Operation Defensive Shield here and here there are two major points at issue. Examine the upper paragraph - I defy anyone to claim my prefered version isn't a lot better than the other (and others think the same). The lower paragraph is partly my work, it's been improved and extended by others and inserted by them - it's both good information and vital to an NPOV, otherwise we have only the official statements of the perpetrator. And it's from pro-Israel sources same as what are there already!
 * "Rage Boy" - a POV editor has inserted weasel words, I'm re-inserting the words of the source. There are further edits of this article, nobody objects to what I've done.
 * Deir Yassin - my edit has survived 6 subsequent edits (including 3 editors who probably disapprove of much that I do) with no objections. PRtalk 16:11, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Questions for concerned persons

 * 1) "Is personal integrity a requirement to be an editor of Wikipedia?"
 * 2) "Is it realistic to decide what is Content Dispute, and what are straightforward falsehoods?"
 * 3) "Should egregious examples of trickery, inserting falsehoods etc, be grounds for mentorship or other sanctions?" (Assume for the moment that abusive sock-puppetry is a different offense).
 * 4) "Assuming personal integrity is a requirement, who in the project is best placed to decide when it has been breached and how should breaches be brought to their attention?" PRtalk 16:11, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Which of these is NPOV?
Neither of these versions is really fit to be in articles, but to my mind one of them is clearly better than the other. PRtalk 16:50, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Paragraph A:
 * March and April of 2002 saw a dramatic increase of suicide bomb attacks against Israelis by Palestinian groups such as Hamas, Islamic Jihad and the Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades, and in March alone approximately 130 Israelis were killed in 13 attacks. Suicide bombings on on 8 and 9 March, followed by a larger attack on 27 March, an event known as the Passover massacre where 30 Israeli civilians including many holocaust survivors were killed, prompted the Israeli government to deploy the IDF on a wave of incursions into Palestinian towns and villages in the West Bank, what it considered a large-scale counter-terrorist offensive beginning on 29 March. The Israel Defense Forces had issued emergency call-up notices for 20,000 reserve soldiers, the largest such call-up since the 1982 Lebanon War.

Paragraph B:
 * The cycle of violence between the Israelis and Palestinians had been steadily escalating during the Second Intifada. March and April of 2002 saw suicide bomb attacks against Israelis by Palestinian groups, such as Hamas, Islamic Jihad and the Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades, increase in frequency, and saw two waves of incursions by the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) into Palestinian towns and villages in the West Bank. The first wave, from 27 February through 14 March, had caused significant loss of life. Killing and counter killings began coming so fast that locals could barely absorb news of one outrage before the next took place. Suicide bombings on on 8 and 9 March, followed by a larger attack on 27 March, an event known as the Passover massacre where 30 Israeli civilians were killed and about 140 were injured (20 seriously), prompted the Israeli government to deploy the IDF to conduct a second wave of incursions, what it considered a large-scale counter-terrorist offensive beginning on 29 March. The Israel Defense Forces had issued emergency call-up notices for 20,000 reserve soldiers, the largest such call-up since the 1982 Lebanon War.