User:Pelagic/sandbox/j/2019/09/14

Saturday 14 September

Started Sat night finished Sun morning local time; leaving date as Sat (exact timing isn't the purpose here).

Stuff open from earlier

 * T60698 "Enable fulltext search in edit summaries (and logs)" – dumped in the too-hard basket, they reckon it would take "several quarters" of dev work?
 * Snottywong's user edit summary search
 * Who knew that we had hashtags?
 * https://hashtags.wmflabs.org/
 * https://blog.wikimedia.org/2016/03/23/hashtags-expanding-outreach-wikipedia/
 * meta:user:Sms2sms appears to use hashtags a bit… 🤔

Iridescent talk
Went there because something under §Because Iri is better than Cent. [no point direct-linking before it gets archived] was mentioned on one of the frampages. Some other comments caught my eye (retaining the full time stamps to aid Ctrl+F):
 * He|she|they give some excellent insight into the history of ArbPol.
 * “Quite possibly. The paranoid would say that the situation is being engineered as such by the WMF. I'm not in that bunch but I am very unhappy with the recent usurpations of established processes and now with various CHI proposals which, it seems, are driven by a very small group of people who are working in the SanFran bubble and will brook little criticism if only on the grounds that such stuff makes them feel unsafe. Now who's paranoid?” - Sitush (talk) 14:08, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
 * “To work for the WMF, get a grant from them etc, you pretty much have to have a certain cultural mindset and we know that the mindset in question is not one that often aligns with consensus on en-WP. Given the WMF tendency to impose stuff, conduct pseudo-consultations on meta where criticism is stamped upon, … cultural imperialism driven by a very small number of people who are increasingly extending their remit, as any bureaucracy tends to do. …” - Sitush (talk) 22:27, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Aside: I keep seeing this antipathy toward Meta crop up in various places, including by (WMF) peeps in meta consultations acknowledging people's reluctance to engage there.
 * “Yes, I agree there's been a cultural mismatch and they've become out of touch and aloof. But they're not the evil power-seeking conspiracy that so many people are making them out to be - they're essentially a good bunch of people trying to do the best they can. And we do need them.” Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 09:16, 3 August 2019 (UTC)

MW
Some more interaction at mw:Talk:Reading/Web/Advanced mobile contributions and Talk pages consultation 2019. Added some notes at

To read:,. Somebody mentioned these in relation to providing a lot of configuration options.