User:Pmedwards/INLS200Spring2009 archived

=Discussions with Wikipedia members/administrators=

Class
I noticed that you have a class participating at Wikipedia. You may be interested in Wikiversity, a sister project that caters to online classroom activities. The rules and structure is different to allow "original research" and education based activities. Wikipedia is mostly for building articles. You could use both if you wish to teach and instruct while students build articles. Ottava Rima (talk) 20:12, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I'm aware of Wikiversity, but my students are doing something a bit different--they're focusing on articles--so we should be fine: caveats and alternatives noted. Pmedward (talk) 14:59, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

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School/University projects
If you are intending to use Wikipedia for a school or university project, please take a look at WP:SUP - it has much useful advice for teachers/instructors. Thank you. – ukexpat (talk) 21:17, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
 * See also User:Jbmurray/Advice. There have been some excellent and productive projects, but there have also been some which were frustrating and disappointing for the participants and caused a great deal of clean-up work for other Wikipedians. The advice in the two articles referenced here is based on hard-won experience, and is essential reading before your project gets under way. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 21:33, 9 February 2009 (UTC) JohnCD (talk) 21:33, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Understandable. I've been following reports of Wikipedia-based projects for a while now, and my students should be fine for what we're set up to do. (There are things that we're doing in the classroom that should help get articles in decent shape before they actually go live.) Pmedward (talk) 15:02, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Good. At the risk of teaching my grandmother to suck eggs, two points which have come up in earlier projects might be worth mentioning:


 * Nobody owns a WP article: as soon as your students put one into article space, others may and probably will edit it. A good way round this is to create a first version in user space by starting a page named "User: / " (for example, I have User:JohnCD/Sandbox) where they can work undisturbed until the article is ready to move into article space.


 * One important way in which a Wikipedia article differs from the usual student essay is that Original Research and Synthesis (i.e. putting established ideas together to deduce something new) are the name of the game for student essays but forbidden for WP articles.


 * Useful links for your students: WP:YFA, WP:BAI, WP:NOT. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 20:12, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

One additional point, you may be better off creating a project page where everyone can interact, such as Nameofproject. – ukexpat (talk) 04:24, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I think better not in article space as it would not be an encyclopedia article and might be objected to on the grounds of WP:NOT; but you could do it in your user-space, e.g. User:Pmedward/Projectpage. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 12:45, 16 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Good point - that's a much better idea. – ukexpat (talk) 02:02, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

On layout
Let me begin by saying that it's nice to see such an efficient use of Wikipedia as an educational research. I recently came across an article (magnetic air car) created by one of your students and I was hoping that you'd include adherence to the Wikipedia style guide in your instructions. Best of luck and regards ˉˉanetode╦╩ 19:30, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Image use and copyright
Hello, you have a great project going, and it's especially nice to see it coming from my alma mater.

I wanted to point out, though, that you may want to let your students know about Wikipedia's image use policy, and copyright in general. I noticed that some of the students who are editing pages as part of your project are uploading copyrighted images they found on the internet.

Your students should be aware that:
 * 1) Almost all pictures found on the internet are copyrighted, and cannot be legally be reproduced without permission.
 * 2) Since part of Wikipedia's mission is to create a restriction-free encyclopedia that can be adopted for any use, it does not accept copyrighted images, except when they're considered crucial to understanding a subject under the fair use principle.

While intellectual property laws can be complicated and controversial, and it wouldn't be reasonable to expect non-lawyers to understand them completely. But the basic rule of thumb is, if you found it on the internet, you probably shouldn't use it. If the pictures belong to newspapers or press agencies like AP or Getty, they definitely shouldn't use them.

Now, copyrighted images I've seen were of Carolina basketball players. In these cases, your students are actually in a better position to create or obtain copyright-free images of these players than other Wikipedia editors; they could conceivably take the pictures themselves, or ask a student photographer (or even the sports information office) to release their work to public domain.

Thanks, and best of luck with your class. Mosmof (talk) 21:24, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

=Communications with INLS 200 (Spring 2009) students=

Creating user accounts
(Student information removed)

INLS 200 peer review assignments (round 2) (Spring 2009)
...due in Wikipedia 'discussion' areas before class on Wednesday, April 8, 2009