User:PrettyPoliceman/Old and New Guard leather culture

There was a change
 * http://www.evilmonk.org/a/oldguard.cfm
 * http://web.archive.org/web/20120917193725/http://www.evilmonk.org/A/oldguard.cfm
 * http://www.leatherati.com/2011/09/the-old-guard-classical-leather-culture-revisited-2/ (not in internet archive)
 * http://web.archive.org/web/20031005150847/http://www.leatherpage.com/baldwin.htm

Guy Baldwin was born 1946 and didn't have first hand experience

There's no such thing. Jack Fritscher, born 1939. Introduction to The Leatherman's Handbook
 * http://www.jackfritscher.com/FeatureArticles/Articles/Lthrmans%20Handbook%20Intro.html (who is he angry at? According to Ambrosio someone not so important? Mistress Constance of Louisville?)
 * http://web.archive.org/web/20101120143736/http://www.jackfritscher.com/FeatureArticles/Articles/Lthrmans%20Handbook%20Intro.html
 * http://www.evilmonk.org/a/rinella.cfm Jack Rinella
 * http://web.archive.org/web/20120719012422/http://www.evilmonk.org/A/rinella.cfm

It's two branches of leather culture that always existed side by side. Joseph Bean/Joseph W. Bean (check birth date)
 * http://www.evilmonk.org/a/jwbean.cfm
 * http://web.archive.org/web/20120917193754/http://www.evilmonk.org/A/jwbean.cfm
 * http://domsub.info/ifyousayso.shtml (same text)
 * http://www.evilmonk.org/a/grubin.cfm Gayle Rubin
 * http://web.archive.org/web/20120719012407/http://www.evilmonk.org/A/grubin.cfm

Old Guard means "gay bikers"
 * http://www.evilmonk.org/a/notetrad.cfm "Ambrosio"
 * http://web.archive.org/web/20120917161751/http://www.evilmonk.org/A/notetrad.cfm

It's definately a debate!

Marlon Brando, the movie

Drummer Magazine

Reconstructing history
 * http://www.fetbot.com/Articles/featured/apacrypha-830.shtml
 * http://web.archive.org/web/20110917154518/http://www.fetbot.com/Articles/featured/apacrypha-830.shtml

1988 Guy Baldwin is the first one to use the term? "Let's Not Take the Olde Guard Judges Too Seriously" "2002, Apr. 7:	Guy Baldwin delivers a powerful speech at the sixth Leather Leadership Conference in Manhattan Beach, California, rejecting the philosophy of inclusion and emphasizing Old Guard values and self-responsibility as guides to developing as a leatherperson. The speech causes widespread debate. "What strikes me most about those who question me closely about the Old Guard is how passionately they seem to be searching for something which they believe will somehow satisfy a deeply felt need....a longing for something they sense has been lost to us. When I question people closely about what this need is ... it almost always can be reduced to a few key words: sexiness, cohesion, intimacy, trust, reliability, integrity, accountability, and perhaps most importantly, a sense of family."
 * http://www.evilmonk.org/a/notetrad.cfm (again)
 * http://www.jackfritscher.com/Drummer/Contents/Drummer%20111%20Contents.html
 * http://web.archive.org/web/20110818192948/http://jackfritscher.com/Drummer/Contents/Drummer%20111%20Contents.html
 * http://www.leatherarchives.org/exhibits/deblase/timeline2.htm
 * http://web.archive.org/web/20120805143326/http://www.leatherarchives.org/exhibits/deblase/timeline2.htm

The Protocol Handbook

John Weal/John D. Weal, Jeffrey Payne


 * http://www.leatherati.com/2012/01/a-guest-editorial-review-by-guy-baldwinofthe-leathermans-protocol-handbooka-handbook-on-old-guard-rituals-traditio/
 * http://www.leatherati.com/2012/02/version10-starthtml0000000167-endhtml0000019769-startfragment0000000457-endfragment0000019753-well-first-off-i-am-ver/
 * http://www.leatherati.com/2012/02/john-weals-response-to-the-old-guard-protocol-handbook-controversy-2/
 * http://www.leatherati.com/2012/02/a-response-to-the-protocol-handbook/