User:Protagon/Sandbox

Very interesting!
Veropedia: http://en.veropedia.com/

and also:

Moreschi on nationalism etc.

Backup of ANI report
Very bad faith, abusive, hostile and threatening talk and behavior from User:No Free Nickname Left, particularly here:

1. Talk:Russians, 2. and many of his edit summaries display the same behavior: Special:Contributions/No_Free_Nickname_Left

He seems to set his own rules, and refers to other edits which he don't like as vandalism; he has called me a vandal (and my edits to the article Russians as vandalism) on 10 occasions(!) on Talk:Russians and in the edit summaries in the Russians revision history. He had accused me of "abusing tags" on 3 occasions on Talk:Russians.

He has IMO a case of WP:OWN for the article Russians. He has said that "you'll get blocked", see particularly this diff.

SHOUTING in edit summaries: Diff1, diff 2, diff 3, more on Special:Contributions/No_Free_Nickname_Left.

Racist behavior: diff: ''Could the little Balt stop vandalizm? I know he's sad their not known to exist due to the fact their little and useless, but vandalizing this page on Wikipedia wont change that.'' - anon comment (not directed at me), but I'm pretty sure it's from him (using the word "vandalizm" with "z").

Far more further notes on this behavior, please see this case of sockpuppetry Suspected_sock_puppets, which I have filed.

I hope this helps the integrity of Wikipedia. Signing off, --Protagon (talk) 19:11, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

(Oh, the irony here as well; he filed an ANI just before me above, after I told him I will take this to ANI). Interesting . --Protagon (talk) 19:13, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

And still more abuse under "Comments" on Suspected_sock_puppets : Its nothing but a dirty trick, you are simply a Russophob. ...you are a sockpupet, so shud up and Get a life. Please NFNL, go on, keep 'em coming... --Protagon (talk) 19:30, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Backup of my report on Sockpuppet case
This is (luckily) the first time I have felt the need to take measures as these, but I guess there is a first time for everyone...

Some two weeks ago (10 Dec 2007) I started adding some template tags on the page Russians since I found two sections were seriously flawed/and or biased, and I described it in detail on Talk:Russians. Shortly afterwards, I got into a dispute with User:No_Free_Nickname_Left (a dispute which is ongoing), and he has hitherto been refusing to deal with the matters constructively and responded in a rather hostile way; the dispute is here: Talk:Russians. I will probably takes this to a RFC, if the matters are not solved. At first, I did not think much about it or User:No_Free_Nickname_Left, but after a while the red strange-sounding nickname User:No_Free_Nickname_Left got me thinking...but really, it can't be that obvious, could it?

Nevertheless, due to NFNL's continued obsessive edit war with me, I started yesterday to do some basic snooping (even though I don't particularly like to do so), and I believe I have spotted a true sockpuppet;

During the discussion on Talk:Russians, User:No_Free_Nickname_Left referred to a supposed previous discussion concerning the disputed contents, and he referred to 3 other users (in order): User:M.V.E.i., User:Fisenko and User:Miyokan, who he claimed had agreed with him before on the matters. I just decided to check on those users; Now, User:Fisenko and User:Miyokan are obviously Russian, but there does not seem to be any controversial with their accounts. But, with User:M.V.E.i., this is however quite the opposite; I found that he had got blocked from Wikipedia for a period of one year, and as far as I know, this is not done routinely.

Very well, I started to check on User:M.V.E.i. more deeply, and after reading his talk page (a very long and in many cases a really unpleasant read!) - look here: User_talk:M.V.E.i., I soon started to spot the similarities between User:M.V.E.i. and User:No_Free_Nickname_Left (a good idea is to read User_talk:M.V.E.i. from the bottom and up).

The similarities are the following;


 * Referral: User:No_Free_Nickname_Left referred to User:M.V.E.i. during our dispute on Talk:Russians


 * Open hostility/abusive language: shouting, SHOUTING and SHOUTING, and generally quite hostile behavior, referring to others as "vandalz" and "vandalizm", refusal to adhere to Wikipedia rules:

MVEi, MVEi, MVEi, MVEi, NFNL, NFNL, NFNL, NFNL, and much more...


 * Numerous (very numerous) spelling mistakes: Normally I don't hold this against anyone, but there are obvious similarities here between Special:Contributions/M.V.E.i. and Special:Contributions/No_Free_Nickname_Left (check both edit summaries and edits).

Examples (just some examples of many more):


 * Small "i"'s: MVEi, MVEi, NFNL, NFNL


 * "Vandalizm": MVEi, User talk MVEi, NFNL, NFNL


 * Feverish defense (WP:OWN) of same section Russians:

As you read above I have had a long dispute with User:No_Free_Nickname_Left on this particular section, which can be read in full on Talk:Russians.

According to the revision history for the article Russians, User:M.V.E.i. made numerous edits of the section "Contribution to humanity" adding (or readding ) for instance here) and perhaps (IMO quite likely) started and wrote the section himself (e.g. see this example and numerous edits of his directly after that; there are many more).


 * Russian connection 1: If you compare the contributions Special:Contributions/M.V.E.i. and Special:Contributions/No_Free_Nickname_Left, you will discover that both their main focus is Russia-related.


 * Russian connection 2: User:M.V.E.i. categorized himself as Category:Russian_Wikipedians, and on User_talk:No_Free_Nickname_Left, NoFreeNicknameLeft says In Belorusian i can read and understand. Polish I understand but reall bad. I also learned Russian in an exellent way.


 * User connection: Both User:M.V.E.i. and User:No_Free_Nickname_Left has been in contact with User:Miyokan, asking for/talking about support: NFNL to Miyokan and MVEi to Miyokan

"I also dont think that if you'll say it ain't true it will make it not true." - not alone a perfect proof, but it certainly adds to the suspicion.
 * Quote similarity: and here's another quite interesting similarity: User:M.V.E.i. lists a quote of his own at the bottom of his user page (exactly): "I'm not gonna say it's gray only because you say it's black when i see it's white". During my talk with User:No_Free_Nickname_Left on Talk:Russians he said (exactly):


 * and finally, the date of MVEi's block and the start of NFNL's Wikipedia career:
 * User:M.V.E.i. blocked (blocked 13 October 2007, edit summary:(account creation blocked) with an expiry time of 1 year ‎ (Extending length due to block evasion))
 * User:No_Free_Nickname_Left (account created 31 October 2007)

All in all, my conclusion is that User:No_Free_Nickname_Left and User:M.V.E.i. are very likely the one and the same. I hope any admin(s) who reads this feel the urge and are able to do a thorough check and compare User:M.V.E.i. with User:No_Free_Nickname_Left, in order to establish if they also think it's likely that they are one and the same (which IMO is more than likely). If this is found to be true, I'd say it's suitable to block User:M.V.E.i. indefinitely, since the reason for his block is very, very serious (see the racist rants) but that's another discussion, I believe. Hope this helps the integrity of Wikipedia.

Signed, --Protagon (talk) 14:31, 22 December 2007 (UTC)