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RE: RONDA ROUSEY WIKI ARTICLE "STRIKEFORCE" SECTION

Under the heading "Strikeforce", the following is stated: "The victory was controversial as referee Steve Mazzagatti only stopped the fight because D’Alelio appeared to make a brief sound. According to instructions given to fighters before they compete, this is typically deemed to be a verbal submission. Mazzagatti initially did nothing, but after Rousey looked at him and stated that D’Alelio had submitted, he stopped the fight. D'Alelio admitted after the fight that she let out a verbal indication of pain."

These statements should be changed or omitted due to insufficient evidence. Hearsay should be clearly identified as such in an encyclopedic article or be removed. Mazzagatti stopped the fight - true. However, there is no proof that the fight was stopped by him due to D'Alelio appearing to make "a brief sound". That statement itself is controversial because Mazzagatti did not give a post-fight interview explaining exactly why he stopped the fight. http://www.mmafighting.com/2011/08/12/ronda-rousey-beats-sarah-dalelio-steve-mazzagatti-at-center-of Furthermore, if Rousey had to tell Mazzagatti that D'Alelio was verbally tapping out, that would mean he stopped the fight because he trusted Rousey's word about this, not because he heard D'Alelio make "a brief sound".

It may (or may not) be true that instructions are given to fighters before competition about making verbal sounds, but this cannot be substantiated by hearsay or an article from an unofficial source. The article that was provided as a reference is not an authority on the subject of MMA rules so it should not be used as if it is.

The Wiki contributor's statement that D'Alelio "admitted" she let out a "verbal indication of pain" is not substantiated in the reference that was provided because that reference did not provide a direct quote from D'Alelio. D'Alelio said she was "not injured or in physical distress at any time" and that she made a "sound of physical exertion". https://wombatsports.wordpress.com/2011/08/14/sarah-dalelio-responds-to-controvversial-loss/ A sound of "physical exertion" is not necessarily the same as a verbal indication of pain.

REASON FOR MY EDIT OF THIS SECTION: WP:BESTSOURCES WP:SUBSTANTIATE WP:YESPOV WP:Wikivoice WP:SUBSTANTIATE,ATTRIBUTEPOV

RE: The Ronda Rousey Article Edit (section concerning verbal tap out, under "Strikeforce")
Matt, I will make a note of it.