User:Raul654/archive22

List of scientists opposing the mainstream scientific assessment of global warming
This article is little more than a long set of quotes pushing a fringe viewpoint. WP:POVFORK doesn't allow that, WP:FRINGE doesnt' allow that, and WP:NPOV doesn't allow that.

Indeed, it is fairly blatant: Citation templates allow quotes, instead, they're put in the article. A category would allow for everyone to be linked, and the quotes could be discussed in their articles. Instead, we get this, which serves no purpose above a category except to provide a list of cherrypicked climate-denier POV-pushing connected with high-sounding titles.

However, it's proven remarkably resistant to deletion. I tried it back in May, others have tried before. Is there anything that can be done about it? Shoemaker's Holiday Over 202 FCs served 00:17, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Me, Myself & Scibaby
Just kidding, don't know if you've seen Me, Myself & Irene; I couldn't resist. After your suggestion at Lindzen's talk page that I may in fact be this 'scibaby' sock-puppet...

Send me an email on alexharv074 at gmail dot com and I'll happily chat with you privately about the misunderstanding. (Let me know you've sent it in case it gets lost in my spam or amongst thousands of yahoo newsgroups I subscribe to.)

The reason (I guess) that you're occasionally seeing my IP come from strange places is that whilst I do most of my editing from a 3 wireless broadband service (Hutchison/Australia) during odd hours (e.g. 11am local time to as late as 3 or 4 am when I'm feeling really restless), I occasionally edit from my office address at work (I probably shouldn't mention the company name in this public forum). On those occasions, you'd likely see my IP as something quite different, and who knows, maybe even addresses not supposed to be in Australia if you asked InterNIC about it (I know that my company sometimes is so big that it allocates the IPs the way it likes).

Just so that you don't start feeling like you're going crazy, I'll admit that I've also noticed that the Sci-puppet has been following my edits. The difficulty is that the Sci-puppet is usually making very reasonable edits, or at the least, edits that anyone skeptical of climate change would be sympathetic to. This is probably why it sometimes appears that, say, GoRight, is 'proxying' for him.

Hope this helps, & pleased to meet you. Best wishes, Alex. Alex Harvey (talk) 03:29, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

You're invited...
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In the evening, we'll share dinner and chat at a local restaurant, and generally enjoy ourselves and kick back.

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September 11 anniversary
I was wondering if you could consider running American Airlines Flight 11 or American Airlines Flight 77 for the anniversary? I'm not sure which is better to run. It is also the one year anniversary of the opening of the Pentagon Memorial. — Dispenser 07:41, 1 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Off the top of my head, I don't have any problems with this. I'll give the matter more thought after I come back. Raul654 (talk) 22:06, 1 September 2009 (UTC)


 * We did this last year, and I prefer not to do this every year. I would be happy with featuring one of the species article, such as Raccoon, Pallid sturgeon, or one of the bird species. --Aude (talk) 22:45, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Naked men pics and such
I saw on Meetup/DC 8's talk page you were putting in a request for pics to add to List of works by Thomas Eakins. I'm not sure if I'll be able to make the meetup and I'm in the dirty souf' for university right now, but I should be able to make it back to the metro area in October (or November at the very latest). If you could supply me with a list of images you want I would try my best to get something better for you (this is of course precluding some other Meetup chap beating me to the punch, which is always quite likely.) -- Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ( talk ) 14:06, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
 * ...And actually it didn't occur to me on first posting, but I'm close to the Virginia Museum of Fine Arts (and would probably be able to get over there sooner.) -- Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ( talk ) 14:07, 1 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Give me a couple of weeks to work on this request. All of my reference materials are on the other side of the country, where I'll be moving later this week (so I don't have much time to edit right now).
 * The Hirshhorn in DC has one of the largest Eakins collections in the world. (Probably second only to the Philly Museum of Art) If you need a rule of thumb, most of the black-and-white images pictures in that article were scanned from the 1977 book 'Thomas Eakins Collection of the Hirshhorn Museum and Sculpture Garden'. One thing to remember is that they almost certainly do not have all of their Eakins works currently on display -- in fact, most of the obscure ones probably haven't been on display in many years (They just sold one at auction earlier this year that hadn't gone on public display since the 70s). To get access to paintings, you need to call ahead of your visit, ask for the Hirshhorn archivist, confirm they still actually own them, and set up an appointment to view them. You may also need to get permission to photograph it. I might just do this the next time I'm in the area, but if you get to it first, that would be OK too. Raul654 (talk) 22:01, 1 September 2009 (UTC)


 * As for the Virginia Museum of Art, the procedure is much the same as I described above. Call ahead, ask for the archivist, confirm that they have all 3 of the works in the article listed and no more, and inquire about their policies regarding photography. Assuming it is accurate, the only one that needs to be photographed is File:Eleanor S F Pue G455.png, which is a black-and-white scan. Raul654 (talk) 22:05, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Lawrence Solomon
Hi Raul. I think a general compromise has been worked out on the article's talk page. Is it possible to have the full protection lifted now? We can all keep an eye on the article and make sure no untoward feuding breaks out. ChildofMidnight (talk) 16:38, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Oboeboy
Hi Raul. Back in March, you blocked User:Oboeboy and half a dozen of his socks (though I can't seem to track down the archived case file). It seems probable that he's got a couple more out and about. and are editing in a very similar manner, and apparently from 204.184.214.2 (talk &bull; contribs &bull; info &bull; WHOIS), which you had tagged as an Oboeboy sock-ip in March. Can you take a look at the users and see if my suspicions are correct or would you rather I file a request at SPI? Thanks. Parsecboy (talk) 20:30, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Collateral damage
Just to clue you in, there's some collateral damage from a rangeblock you made here. Your input would be appreciated. Cheers. lifebaka++ 04:44, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

FAC weekend archiving, Sept 18–20
Hey, Raul; I hope things are going well for you. I have pending travel, through the 30th of September; Karanacs and I have worked out a schedule, but neither of us will be available the weekend of September 18 thru 20 for pr/aring. Would you be able to cover that weekend, and keep an eye out in case Karanacs needs any help in my absence? Regards, Sandy Georgia (Talk) 17:56, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi Raul. Are you going to be able to promote/archive this weekend? If so, I'm going to go ahead and review a few of the lingering noms (we are short reviewers at the moment). If not, then I'll hold off reviewing until after Sandy gets back.  Karanacs (talk) 14:22, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

FAR closures
Hi Raul, Kylie Minogue, Gerald Ford, Gyeongju, City of Manchester Stadium and Sheffield I have been involved in so you will have to close them when you see fit.  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 00:46, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
 * All righty - I'll take a look at that sooner or later. Raul654 (talk) 21:27, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Quick question
Hey Raul, I imagine you're pretty busy, but I was just wondering if you have any China-related articles planned for TFA on October 1 or 10, because if not I'm thinking of nominating one for October 3 (I posted this at WT:TFA/R also). Thanks, r ʨ anaɢ talk/contribs 19:54, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
 * No - I usually don't plan TFAs that far ahead. Raul654 (talk) 21:27, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok, thanks! r ʨ anaɢ talk/contribs 22:31, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Sandy Koufax
Hey Raul, what would you consider a significant enough amount of time for an FA having been a TFA before being nominated again? I want to nominate the article Sandy Koufax for September 28th, Yom Kippur, the day where he famously did not pitch the first game of the 1965 World Series so he could observe the Jewish holiday. It will have been four years tomorrow since it was TFA. I've seen some articles with multiple TFAs listed on their talk pages so I think we're allowed to nominate it for a repat. I haver never really worked with FAs and TFAs but I'm trying to learn. Nothing is currently nominated for this date. Thanks, Valley2 city ‽ 00:41, 12 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Only Barack Obama was run twice, with the second time doubling with John McCain for an "exceptional" historic US election TFA. Also running a FA again is unfair for those that have been waiting, since we are producing more than we run.  — Dispenser 01:45, 12 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Raul has indicated that Obama was something he did not intend to repeat, and that he would only run FA's once as TFA. Work on Hank Greenberg?--Wehwalt (talk) 14:06, 12 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Quite a task on the Hank Greenberg article. Maybe for next year. Thanks for the info, all. Is there a list or category of FAs that haven't been run? I would love to find a good alternative for that day or others Valley2 city ‽ 18:32, 13 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Someone will post the appropriate link. There is, in other words.  If it is any consolation, I've proposed a Jew for Sukkot (Murray Chotiner, Oct 4, centennial of birth)--Wehwalt (talk) 19:18, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Crown Fountain FAC 4
I have posted a query on 's page, but she is away. An image reviewer at Featured article candidates/Crown Fountain/archive4‎ has suggested replacing the main image with an .ogg file later in the article. Is there precedent for an .ogg file main image? Is it appropriate. It would be most helpful if someone commented directly on the FAC discussion.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 13:55, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Oh God
Why, Raul, why? Fvasconcellos (t·c) 00:25, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Rudolf Caracciola
Hello. Could you please consider using Rudolf Caracciola as the TFA on September 28? I wrote the article planning to get it on that day (the 50th anniversary of his death) but Archie Jackson being on the main page earlier this month halved my expected points. He is the only FA on motorsport in that era (or anything before WW2), so it is quite rare, and not something many people are aware of. I apologise if this not the way to do it, but could you please consider the article? Thanks, I appreciate the work you do. Aptery gial  07:41, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

TFA's
Just another small request for you to work a few days ahead with the scheduling of the TFA whenever possible. This gives others a chance to double-check for errors in advance. Thanks. By the way, what happens if you get ill or something and can't get online? Do you have a backup plan? I'm sure it hasn't happened in all the years, but just wondered. Cheers &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 09:26, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I would appreciate a response, thanks. &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 09:32, 25 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Just a comment from a kibbitzer. If Raul missed a day, I think there would be a discussion at AN/I, and my guess would be that the decision would be to leave it up to his FA delegates, even though it is beyond their remit, all three are widely trusted.  I think there would be an effort made to get in touch with Mark in real life to ensure he's OK.  But if a TFA remained up two consecutive days, the sky would not fall, and the situation, one way or another, would not be allowed to recur.  Don't have any comment about the scheduling.--Wehwalt (talk) 13:16, 25 September 2009 (UTC)


 * You broke my template ;-) — Dispenser 00:25, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Missing Picture
Hey! Just letting you know that Today's_featured_article/December_10,_2006 has a missing picture, may I suggest replacing it with File:Mei.jpg? Its hard to know what to replace it with since the other was deleted. Sorry for the trouble and thanks in advance.  Captain n00dle  T/C 13:17, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Done. Raul654 (talk) 20:48, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much! That was the article I had appear on the portal randomly  Captain n00dle  T/C 19:51, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed
I notice that this article has been kept semiprotected for a long time. In your opinion, would it be worth unprotecting for a short period to see how that works out? -- —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tony Sidaway (talk • contribs)


 * I don't think it's an especially good idea -- that article is high profile and frequently the target of anon vandalism. You should only unprotect it if you are personally prepared to patrol it. Raul654 (talk) 20:47, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't dream of unprotecting an article that I was not actively watching. --TS 21:55, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Chotiner
Raul, thank you for running the Chotiner article. I'd really like to try the cropped memo (neutralize Johnny Cash) as the main page picture. The point isn't his signature, it is the text. I think it is more likely to get readers interested than no pic or some or the only free use pic of Chotiner we have. Of course, if you feel otherwise, it's OK.--Wehwalt (talk) 20:40, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I respectfully disagree - I think it's far more preferable to have a picture of him than a picture of his signature to illustrate his biography. Raul654 (talk) 20:49, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Sure. I just thought the words "neutralize Johnny Cash" in the typed text (which was really the point) would intrigue readers.  But I guess you are a test case, and if you didn't get it, then readers won't.  Not the best photo of the guy, but I went to extremes to find a free use, and it just wasn't happening except this one.  Thanks again.--Wehwalt (talk) 21:11, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Film articles in October 2009
Hello, I saw that for October 2009, the film article Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country will be displayed on October 6, and Fight Club (film) will be displayed on October 15. I know that the goal is to avoid having similar topics close together, so I was wondering if this was a problem. I ask because I requested for Fight Club to be displayed on October 15, the film's 10th anniversary. Could a solution be to display The Undiscovered Country in November? Or is the schedule set in stone, and we accept it? Erik (talk &#124; contribs &#124; wt:film) 15:52, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
 * 9 days separation between similar topics is OK where scheduling is concerned. TFA requests are judged more strictly - 9 days separation would take a pretty big (-3 point?) penalty. Raul654 (talk) 15:26, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your response; I just wanted to make sure this was okay. Happy editing! Erik (talk &#124; contribs &#124; wt:film) 19:53, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Janet Jackson
Thanks for selecting the article for the main page. I worked as diligent on Janet as Realist2 did on Michael. The Bookkeeper  (of the Occult)  21:53, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. Raul654 (talk) 04:46, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia Takes Philadelphia
 You're invited to the

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October 4, 2009

Time: 12 pm

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Wikipedia Takes Philadelphia is a photo scavenger hunt and free content photography contest to be held all around Philadelphia aimed at illustrating Wikipedia articles.

Scheduled for Sunday, October 4, 2009, the check-in location will be at the Drexel University quad (between Chestnut and Market, 33rd and 32nd) at noon, and the ending party and photo uploading (location to be announced) will be at 6 PM. To reach the Drexel quad, walk south from Market Street at 32nd Street into the campus.

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Suggestion for a featured article
How about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_fusion - somewhat controversial, but well researched, with an entertaining slant Ianguy (talk) 09:46, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

WALL-E review
Can you review WALL-E for me Raul654? Secret Saturdays (talk) 23:07, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

My statement on The_undertow
I know we don't like each other much, therefore I'm especially concerned that my comments here were fair and accurate as they pertain to you. Cool Hand Luke 23:20, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Your comment that "the block was far from best practices&mdash;a former arbitrator implemented it before discussion was complete. " is wrong - it's extremely common practice for admin actions to be taken once a discussion reaches consensus but before it is closed. Otherwise, your description looks correct to me. Raul654 (talk) 04:40, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Wikis Take Manhattan
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Video conversion
Could you please properly transcode this File:StaR Air Line Fleet1939 video.ogg to the ogg/theora format for my adoptee, User:RoyDickson. Currently it is mpeg-PS encoded. I would greatly appreciate it.Smallman12q (talk) 01:04, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

The following is from MediaInfo: Format                          : MPEG-PS FileSize/String                 : 40.5 MiB Duration/String                 : 51s 584ms OverallBitRate/String           : 6 592 Kbps

Video ID/String                       : 224 (0xE0) Format                          : MPEG Video Format_Version                  : Version 2 Format_Profile                  : Main@Main Format_Settings_Matrix/String   : Default Duration/String                 : 51s 584ms BitRate_Mode/String             : Variable BitRate/String                  : 5 882 Kbps BitRate_Nominal/String          : 9 000 Kbps Width/String                    : 720 pixels Height/String                   : 480 pixels DisplayAspectRatio/String       : 4/3 FrameRate/String                : 29.970 fps Standard                        : NTSC Colorimetry                     : 4:2:0 ScanType/String                 : Progressive Bits-(Pixel*Frame)              : 0.568 StreamSize/String               : 36.2 MiB (89%)

Audio ID/String                       : 128 (0x80) Format                          : AC-3 Format/Info                     : Audio Coding 3 Duration/String                 : 51s 552ms BitRate_Mode/String             : Constant BitRate/String                  : 448 Kbps Channel(s)/String               : 2 channels ChannelPositions                : L R SamplingRate/String              : 48.0 KHz StreamSize/String               : 2.75 MiB (7%)

Menu Format                          : DVD-Video I've tried to re-encode it in MediaCoder...but it doesn't seem to be cooperating. I would be very thankful if you could properly re-encode it and upload it. Thanks again.Smallman12q (talk) 01:04, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I've re-encoded it at File:Star Airline Fleet video.ogv. I notice that the still picture from the midpoint is really poor. Is the "thumbtime" parameter broken...I can't seem to get it to work...

Could you please let me know if I'm doing something wrong. Thanks.Smallman12q (talk) 16:41, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Block check
Can you check on User talk:HunsV, who says he's getting affected by a rangeblock of yours? Stifle (talk) 08:45, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I've changed the block settings to prevent account creation and block anon users only. He should be able to edit now. Raul654 (talk) 17:05, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

Zoomify extraction
This is somewhat ironic, but if you have time could you extract a couple of William Blake images for me? I'm not running Linux on any of my computers at the moment, so I don't think that the technique we used for Eakins would work for me. Here are the images:
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If you don't have time, then that's ok. This isn't exactly urgent. Thanks,  Litho  derm  03:00, 7 October 2009 (UTC)


 * It didn't work:


 * mark@krusty:~/zoomify$ python zoomify_downloader.py "http://www.metmuseum.org/works_of_art/collection_database/drawings_and_prints/the_rest_on_the_flight_into_egypt_william_blake/objectview_zoom.aspx?page=1&sort=0&sortdir=asc&keyword=William%20Blake&fp=1&dd1=9&dd2=0&vw=1&collID=9&OID=90007977&vT=1" temp
 * all
 * False
 * Web page downloaded...
 * http://www.metmuseum.org/works_of_art/collection_database/drawings_and_prints/the_rest_on_the_flight_into_egypt_william_blake/objectview_zoom.aspx?page=1&sort=0&sortdir=asc&keyword=William%20Blake&fp=1&dd1=9&dd2=0&vw=1&collID=9&OID=90007977&vT=1
 * Cannot find any Zoomify image on given page


 * In this case, I'm fairly sure it failed because the Met is not using zoomify. I think they're using some other program to do the same thing. Raul654 (talk) 19:20, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmmm. Thanks anyhow. I'll have to do some looking into this. In any event there are about ninety images on the website of the Morgan Library here. Could you please try one or two of those and see if the program works? That'd be great. Thanks,  Litho  derm  23:32, 7 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Works like a charm... Raul654 (talk) 23:54, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I've uploaded ten lithographs, finishing . I'll do more after dinner. Ggreer (talk) 01:16, 8 October 2009 (UTC)


 * For Lithoderm's benefit, I asked Ggreer (IRC user AngryParsley) to upload them. His commons user name is GGreer. See his contribs to see the files. Raul654 (talk) 01:28, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I uploaded the first 20 to commons, but now I have to go to bed. I automated the script to assemble most of the other images here. The images in that directory correspond to the URL http://www.themorgan.org/collections/works/blake/work.asp?id=onDisplay&page=xx where xx is the number in the filename. Ggreer (talk) 07:48, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Awesome! So long as they stay in that directory, I can probably take it from here . Thank you both for your help.  Litho  derm  16:39, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Looking at them more carefully, the script seems to have skipped a few; probably where there was more than one on each page. Those will still need to be extracted by one of you guys. Thanks again,  Litho  derm  16:46, 8 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Which ones, specifically, got skipped? Raul654 (talk) 17:10, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
 * ,, , , , , , , , , and . There's no rush, as I've a paper due Monday and have only had time to upload some of the prints in the directory GGreer created.  Litho  derm  02:07, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

Moire fixes
All done. Hers fold  (t/a/c) 06:38, 7 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Looks good. A couple of them still have moire patterns when thumbnailed on the list page. I think it's because they are pngs and not jpgs. In the near future, I'll try uploading them as jpgs and see if that solves the problem. Also, I reverted your changes to the Negress (G30) because there wasn't a moire. Moire only occurs on images scanned from printed media. I created the Negress pic by (very, very carefully) assembling it in photoshop from dozens of screenshots taken from the museum's website. The median filtered version you uploaded looked substantially worse when viewed at high resolution. Raul654 (talk) 17:06, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

October 13th TFA
Just a suggestion, perhaps File:SmashBall.svg can be used for Super Smash Bros. Brawl while on the main page, similar to how File:Triforce.svg was used for The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time. The smash ball image is a free commons image and represents an in-game object that also appears in the game's logo.

Also, there's another image suggestion on the October 13th TFA talk page to use File:Wii Wiimotea.png, similar to how File:NGC Gamecube.jpg was used for Super Smash Bros. Melee. (Guyinblack25 talk 14:38, 8 October 2009 (UTC))
 * Done. Raul654 (talk) 16:59, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Appreciate it. Thanks. (Guyinblack25 talk 15:59, 12 October 2009 (UTC))

File:AudreyNiffenegger.jpg
I contacted Audrey Niffenegger and let her know that The Time Traveler's Wife was running on the main page and she has submitted a photo for the occasion that is a vast improvement over our previous one. It just needs OTRS approval before the 11th. Can you do anything to speed that along? Thanks! Awadewit (talk) 08:30, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I'll do it tonight. Raul654 (talk) 14:17, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Looks like NuclearWarfare got it first. Raul654 (talk) 20:08, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Commons contributions
Hey Raul - do you remember a few years ago someone came up with a list of top contributors based upon total size of files contributed to Commons? Do you know if that list still exists, or was it just a one-off thing? Hope you're well. -- >David  Shankbone  20:35, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, I remember - I'm the one who requested it. Give me a sec and I'll dig it up. Raul654 (talk) 20:36, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
 * It's linked from my user page to this discussion. I should ask Bryan to re-run it to get new numbers. Raul654 (talk) 20:40, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
 * MAN! You're fast!  It would be fun to know the new numbers.  -- >David  Shankbone  20:42, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
 * He's doing it now. Raul654 (talk) 20:43, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

New stats available here Raul654 (talk) 21:32, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
 * From #45 to #60 :-( -- >David  Shankbone  21:50, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Don't feel so bad. That list is a perfect real-life example of the Red Queen's race. Raul654 (talk) 21:55, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
 * You can always be depended upon to dig up the coolest, apt-but-random wiki articles in conversation. -- >David  Shankbone  21:58, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

List of Wikipedians by article count
Hi, can you update this using the tool server or request somebody to do so... Himalayan   08:53, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
 * MZMcBride was kind enough to run it for me. It should take a couple of days to run. Raul654 (talk) 16:33, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
 * List of Wikipedians by article count :-) --MZMcBride (talk) 06:33, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Eakins from Yale
I've listed the uploads on my talk page.--ragesoss (talk) 18:05, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

WTF
Why are IPs doing that? Didn't we solve this dispute a year ago? Moulton? The IP goes to California, and Moulton is at MIT. I've blocked about an 80 mile radius around Boston before, so I know he doesn't have the ability to really get any long distance IPs from home. Meh. Ottava Rima (talk) 23:46, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Given that anon's other edits (to other evolution/ID articles), I think he might not have realized that those paragraphs are contentious. Raul654 (talk) 00:01, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, I am not part of the ID Wikiproject nor part of the "ID Cabal". With that in mind, I feel that the anon -does- know they are contentious and does know that they are violating consensus. I don't think the anon is a normal anon, but either a logged out user or a blocked/banned user who was involved in the area before. No way would they find that one paragraph and remove just that info. Ottava Rima (talk) 00:42, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
 * We should both keep an eye on that article and see if he returns. But for now, I'm inclined to consider it a one-time thing. Raul654 (talk) 01:05, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

Please check your mailbox
You have email. Roger Davies talk 16:43, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

TFA
Raul, you might want to peek in on Water flouridation during the day. Sandy Georgia (Talk) 05:36, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Take a look
Check out Stanford_Archive_answers/10. I can run the rest if you think this is good. The scripts took it down to almost exactly half. Gigs (talk) 13:48, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Expanding Article on Hendrik Frensch Verwoerd
There appears to be a group of individuals who consistently impede any constructive additions to the article in question. Undoing and blocking all editions pertaining to users outside their nest of selections.

The editing recently done to this article has been referenced to credible sources, some already available on other related articles, regardless of the fact of the neutrality displayed in the additions manifested in the facts and phraseology in use.

It would be detrimental to Wikipedia if a consensus is not reached on this question pertaining to all articles not only this one. If the material being added is not significant it would be understandable, yet where the facts could be correct and the community interested in the subject at hand are in conflict with the manner of its publication, the rational and professional solution would be to offer an alternative to the edition being proposed. Simply deleting and blocking any attempt to contribute to this and any other article in a constructive manner can only be viewed as autocratic in the least and a hypocrisy of what the globally renowned Wikipedia stands for.Wsa1 (talk) 22:39, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Press request
FYI, User talk:Brianboulton. Sandy Georgia (Talk) 13:26, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Can you keep November 9th clear for a bit?
This November 9th is the 20th anniversary of the fall of the Berlin Wall and the opening of the border between East and West Germany. I recently rewrote and greatly expanded our inner German border article, which is currently nominated for featured article status at Featured article candidates/Inner German border/archive1. It's already been through a peer review. Although the timeframe is fairly short, I'm confident that the FAC review will be completed by November 9th. Could you please keep open the FA slot for that day to enable the article to be featured on the anniversary? I would think it shouldn't be too difficult to find an alternative article for November 9th if this article's review hasn't been completed by then. -- ChrisO (talk) 23:30, 14 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Wouldn't November 10 be a more logical date, because while according to your (very interesting, I must say) article, the Wall was opened on the 9th, the Inner German Border was not opened until the 10th?--Wehwalt (talk) 01:19, 19 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Night of the 9th/early morning of the 10th, actually. I've corrected the rather ambiguous sentence which suggested the 10th. Featuring it on the 10th would look decidedly odd, as there will be a large amount of media coverage of the anniversary on the 9th. -- ChrisO (talk) 23:35, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

Another heads up on November 9:   Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 20:35, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Earlier would be better. Don't want to be after the wave. Tony   (talk)  01:40, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

Update on Nov. 9:   Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 01:45, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Kww 3 - Bureaucrat discussion

 * Requests for adminship/Kww 3/Bureaucrat discussion

I've opened a bureaucrat chat in relation to this RfA as I don't think the outcome is particularly clear cut. If you have a moment, I'd appreciate your input. WJBscribe (talk) 20:06, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

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28 minute until tomorrow UTC
I see no TFA scheduled for tomorrow (28 minutes from now).--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 23:33, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
 * they are scheduled through the 20th. Sandy Georgia (Talk) 23:40, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

The Swimming Hole On Main Page
After I checked statistics I realized that your pet article has been a major defeat in popularity. It was apparent that almost nobody was interested in this article other than yourself. I realize that article quality and reliability are the primary concerns, however, when nobody is reading it just takes up space. Next time try to write something that is more captivating to the general audience. Brian Everlasting (talk) 01:10, 19 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Brian - Wikipedia is a volunteer project, so editors can work on any article they wish — regardless of whether there are more notable topics. It's a curious aspect of Wikipedia that often articles on relatively obscure subjects are better than those on major, mainstream topics. Cheers. --<em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:black"> Myosotis Scorpioides  19:24, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

Mary Toft
I thought this was a contender for 1 April next year? Parrot of Doom 08:42, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah never mind. There's always the Cock Lane ghost :) Parrot of Doom 21:53, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Sock patrol?
Hi Raul, it has been a while since anybody did a sock sweep for the Tile join socks, latest one was. Could you have a check to make sure they're not building up too many sleeper accounts? (this is the old checkuser request) Tim Vickers (talk) 20:17, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Raul654 resigned from CU just today, after the AC investigated him, see WP:AC/N  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 23:41, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah, sorry about that Raul. Tim Vickers (talk) 16:07, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

October 31 TFA
In case you want one:   Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 17:40, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Grim Fandango
I realize under the current nomination process for articles to be the featured article of the day, there is no way to get this nominated, but I thought it would be cool to have for November 2nd, which is the second day of the Day of the Dead celebration, which this game is entirely based upon, and is a very famous video game. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 19:30, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I suggest that you follow the instructions at the top of WP:TFA/R for creating a blurb, and put it somewhere in your userspace for consideration, linking back to that here. But please keep in mind that if Raul decides to choose a Halloween-themed TFA for October 31, there may be a conflict. Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 19:35, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Here it is! It's pretty darn awesome I think, but let me know what you think. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 03:04, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

I dropped the ball on this one (for the 2nd), but I've put it up for the 11th. Raul654 (talk) 17:13, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Shame, being Armistice Day, I was just about to put up a WWI-related bio of a chap who also died on 11 November, per this - does it matter if Grim Fandango moved to November 12...? Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 11:55, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I support Ian's proposal  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) (help the Invincibles Featured topic drive) 01:01, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks so much for putting it up!!! :) You are the best! Judgesurreal777 (talk) 17:55, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

October 28 TFA
Raul, in case you need it, I left a blurb at Wikipedia talk:Today's featured article/October 28, 2009. Please feel free to disregard, and if you don't need it, please db-g6 delete the talk page. There were no Geography articles in October, and the last Park was in July; the article looks to be in good shape. It should be all ready to go, with just a cut-and-paste. Hope this helps lighten your significant workload, best regards, Sandy Georgia (Talk) 00:01, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I can also move in October 29 from WP:TFA/R if you'd like. Best, Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 00:07, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I also set up Wikipedia talk:Today's featured article/October 29, 2009, taken from WP:TFA/R, in case you need it. Best, Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 18:47, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Because there is a potential conflict on Nov. 9, and editor Ceranthor has graciously agreed to forego his slot at TFA/R should Inner German border be promoted in time for the anniversary, might I suggest 1968 Illinois earthquake (currently at WP:TFA/R for Nov 9) as an option for October 30? Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 19:23, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

November 9 TFA
Inner German border is now promoted, and Ceranthor has agreed to give up the 9th slot, and expressed a preference for November 8. Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 21:36, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually, I think consensus is arising for the 10th. See TFA/R.  ceran  thor 23:49, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
 * That is very nice of Ceranthor. Tony   (talk)  08:14, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
 * If there isn't a barnstar of generosity, I think we need one. :-) -- ChrisO (talk) 08:20, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Agreed. Chris, if you have another one of these coming down the pike (and I hope you do, IGB is a very high quality article), give people at TFA/R a heads up once the article begins its progress towards FA and we'll be on the watch and can discuss possible competition for date or theme.--Wehwalt (talk) 20:52, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
 * No problem. -- ChrisO (talk) 21:25, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

There's a lot of competing requests for the 8th-10th. I think I came up with something everyone can live with. Raul654 (talk) 17:13, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Happy Halloween!
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November 8 TFA
I'd requested Millennium '73 for November 8. FYI, it's about a three-day festival, so Nov. 9 or 10 would also work too.  Will Beback   talk    03:01, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Will Beback, I don't see that request at WP:TFA/R? Since Raul has three proposals for those three days, it would be good to get that request on the TFA requests page. Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 10:09, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I tend to agree. While Raul has been very tolerant of direct requests, I'd still rather see the main route for requests be TFA/R, with asking him directly reserved for emergencies/very special cases.--Wehwalt (talk) 20:50, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I'd placed it there and it was replaced by a request for a different date with a higher score. Should I re-add it? I don't quite understand the procedure.   Will Beback    talk    09:21, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
 * The only one of those dates that I see being discussed at WP:TFAR is Nov. 9. Is there another page I missed? I didn't mean to cut in line - just the opposite.   Will Beback    talk    09:25, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, the discussion on November 9 includes a discussion of one of the articles being bumped to November 10. If it has the points, for sure readd it.  Check to see how many points it had last time.--Wehwalt (talk) 10:34, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
 * So is November 8 still open?   Will Beback    talk    11:04, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Seems to be.--Wehwalt (talk) 11:55, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Here was the WP:TFAR thread just before it was bumped by a higher scoring article for a different date. Whatever happens is fine. Sorry to Raul for hijacking his talk page.   Will Beback    talk    12:59, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, readd it then as three points. It won't hurt the aviator article, that can come back later.--Wehwalt (talk) 13:01, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
 * At six supports, three points, I think it would currently bump the Prairie Avenue article, but I defer to Wehwalt, who follows the page more closely. Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 15:39, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
 * oopsie, correction: I now see that Wehwalt was referring to Werner Mölders, and his argument that it has only two points, hence the next to be replaced. Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 16:33, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
 * OK, thanks.   Will Beback    talk    18:02, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

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Inner German border blurb and picture query
Thanks for scheduling Inner German border for November 9th. I'm a bit surprised though that the blurb proposed at TFAR hasn't been used, and I'm concerned that the picture selected for Today's featured article/November 9, 2009 isn't representative. Only a fraction of the border - only about 2% of the total length - looked like the section depicted in that image. The elements depicted in proposed blurb picture on RFAR, such as the watchtower, fence and especially the sign, are iconic - they are as iconic for the inner German border as the Statue of Liberty would be for New York City or the London Underground roundel would be for London's transport system. That's why I selected that picture. Could you possibly take another look at this? -- ChrisO (talk) 16:59, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
 * ChrisO asked me to comment here. Chris, I've observed that Raul is always open to adjusting the blurb when warranted, but he is hands down the most knowledgeable person on Wiki regarding mainpage issues and blurbs, so he likely has a good reason for rewriting such a key blurb and choosing a different image. :)  At any rate, if adjustments are needed, there is still plenty of time; not to worry. Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 17:05, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, to clarify, I can certainly live with the blurb (since it's fundamentally what's in the article anyway), but the picture is perhaps the greater concern since it was very carefully chosen to go with the topic. There's a common misconception that the border was just like the Berlin Wall - it wasn't, and that's something I've tried to bring out in the article - so it would be unfortunate if the choice of image reinforced that misconception. -- ChrisO (talk) 17:09, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Since Raul is very busy, it may take him some time to respond to your query; not to worry. Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 17:11, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

I rewrote the blurb because the suggested one was too short. I used a different picture because I wanted one where the border fortifications were actually visible (which, for the most part, is not the case with File:Halt hier grenze 800px.jpg). How about File:East German border 1962.jpg? Raul654 (talk) 17:11, 4 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Tell you what - let me give you a short selection of images where the fortifications are visible and which more accurately represent the border than that short stretch of wall at Hötensleben. That'll save you having to rummage around in the article or on Commons (most of my pictures of the border aren't on there yet anyway), it'll give you a choice, and I'll be able to point you in the direction of something that is more representative. Would that work for you? -- ChrisO (talk) 17:16, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
 * That works for me. Raul654 (talk) 17:18, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

OK, I've come up with the following images, which I've rendered below at the usual 100px width. It was actually quite hard to find something that worked well at the 100px resolution; I found that something fairly bold and iconic, like a watchtower, worked better than landscape views. Let me know which you prefer! -- ChrisO (talk) 22:58, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

I think I like 2 and 5 best. Raul654 (talk) 23:00, 4 November 2009 (UTC)


 * I've added a sixth image that I've found from a US military source, which has a couple of major advantages - it shows the border as it actually was in its heyday (most of what's shown in the other photos is small-scale reconstructions), and it shows the sheer scale of the thing. What do you think of this one? Personally I think it works better than the others and it has that iconic element of depicting the scar across the landscape. -- ChrisO (talk) 09:59, 5 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi Raul, just a reminder about the image. I'm happy for either 2 or 5 to be used. -- ChrisO (talk) 16:56, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image (File:Foundation's edge cover.jpg)
I tagged this as orphaned even though it has been sitting around for some years. Cheersww2censor (talk) 23:17, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

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Main page question
Raul, who is the editor in charge of the Main Page? I'm asking because I'd like to suggest that they remove the map image currently being used in the "In the News" section. It's not the end of the world, but it labels Finland as part of Scandinavia; while in colloquial speech most Americans would employ this usage, it's really not accurate (Scandanavia is really only three countries—Denmark, Sweden, and Norway). I just think it doesn't portray us in the best light to be using that map, and I wanted to convey that message. Un sch  ool  17:59, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
 * You would have to go to the In the news people for that; I'm not sure how their pages are navigated, but start with WP:ITN Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 18:07, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Un  sch  ool  18:37, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

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My views on science
At Arbitration/Requests/Case/Ottava Rima restrictions/Workshop, a statement was made claiming that my view on science is fringe and destructive. My religious values have been questioned. I would like your response on the matter since we worked together on, but on opposite sides, Rosalind Picard‎. I do not seek to force a positive statement from you, or hope to persuade you to any view besides what you honestly believe. I have tried very hard to keep any of my CoI away from Wikipedia and I merely want your opinion as you have dealt with the above issue for a very long time and you would have had experience with me on the matter. Ottava Rima (talk) 21:53, 11 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Nonsense, Ottava. No one said your "view on science is fringe and destructive"; once again you are making stuff up.  Please re-read what Moreschi wrote here: Arbitration/Requests/Case/Ottava_Rima_restrictions/Workshop.  Please acquaint yourself with the strawman fallacy and reconsider your statement.  Raul, sorry for butting in on your talk page.  Thank you, Antandrus  (talk) 22:42, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Indeed. The problem is not Ottava's view of science, which for all I know is perfectly rational, it's his views on humanities. Quite why he is misrepresenting me again I have no idea. I've removed the statement anyway, as it's usefulness was limited to giving Ottava a chance to duck the real issues. Moreschi (talk) 00:19, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
 * If, indeed, you are discussing my view on humanities, why would any claims about my Christianity affecting my judgment come up at all? Ottava Rima (talk) 01:20, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Geogre opined on the matter of philology having any scientific rigor and on Literature being included under WP:FRINGE. Maybe it is just a literature vs non-literature thing. Ottava Rima (talk) 01:25, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

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FAC
Raul, I will no longer be nominating articles at FAC because I am concerned about a coordinator that feels that a "comment" represents an "oppose", and that it is appropriate to close a FAC as not passing only a few hours after "comments" were placed on a FAC while there were multiple supports and no legitimate opposes. I will also no longer be reviewing FACs because I am concerned that my "comments", which I like to provide just for simple feedback and do not want to have any bearing on the closing of the FAC, will be held as representing that there is no consensus to pass. Thank you for your time at FAC and the FAC process was enjoyable for quite a long time. Ottava Rima (talk) 22:07, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Just FYI, this is in reference to discussions held at WT:FAC, on my talk page, and on Sandy's talk page. Karanacs (talk) 22:18, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

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FARs to close
Featured article review/Jarmann M1884/archive1 and the two at the bottom, when you feel it is ready  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) (Invincibles Featured topic drive:one left) 22:46, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Electron TFA summary
Please see User talk:BorgQueen when you have a moment. — V = I * R  (talk to Ω) 14:02, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
 * What exactly is the problem? "The electron has no known substructure.[2][67] Hence, it is defined or assumed to be a point particle with a point charge and no spatial extent.[9]" is in the article even as I write this, yet this appears to be what you are objecting to on the main page. Raul654 (talk) 22:49, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

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Are you still trying to get photographs from a museum in D.C.?
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November 30 TFA
Featured article candidates/Winter War/archive1 is a 70-yr anniversary that hasn't quite cleared FAC yet, and Brianboulton has proposed something for Scotland's National Day at Wikipedia talk:TFA/R. Sandy Georgia (Talk) 18:45, 27 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Yes, it would be good if we could accomodate Brianboulton, who was very forebearing in a disputed points situation.--Wehwalt (talk) 22:50, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh crap, I just saw this thread. I'll schedule it to go up sometime soon. Raul654 (talk) 00:09, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Caversham as front page FA
Damn, damn, damn, damn, damn!

As creator of this article, I was deliberately holding off on nomination of this for the front page until Otago Anniversary Day on March 23rd next year. It would have been nice if someone had given the main writers of the article some advanced warning that this had been nominated! Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  22:22, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry about that - I try not to let the queue get too small, but it does occasionally happen. Raul654 (talk) 22:25, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Never mind. It's good to see it on the front page, anyway -and sorry about the swearing :) Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  00:56, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Curiosity
Okay, so I've mastered the inner workings of Today's Featured Picture and am now moving on to Today's Featured Article. This is in keeping with my eternal quest to learn how things work.

I noticed you (I'm assuming) have created templates for each TFA day until 12/31/2010. I'm assuming this was done in bulk. How is that process performed?

I've got a wiki running at my place of employment and this functionality would enhance it most excellently.

Looking forward to your response. Have a most excellent holiday season! Overboard (talk) 23:29, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Never mind. Overboard (talk) 18:25, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Inquiry
When an article undergoes a WP:FAR and loses its featured status, does it still not retain its WP:GA status? Would it not have to undergo a WP:GAR to lose its GA status? Mkdw talk 23:53, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
 * No, it doesn't retain GA status; it needs to undergo a new review. Most articles that are delisted at FAR don't meet WP:WIAGA.  Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 23:58, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Mail
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Note
Raul, please see. I think this is an abuse of Karanac's position as FAC assistant. She framed a question on the FAC talk page about the Catholic Church article - an article that is not even up for FAC and one in which she has had extensive involvement for over a couple of years holding a particular point of view that is not always agreed by consensus of other editors often to her dismay. She is in a posiiton of authority at FAC and the reviewers are all clamoring to get their FAC's passed, I do not see how that scenario promotes free expression. The question she posed is framed in a way to promote her point of view and misrepresented my position. After I posted my point of view and stated the whole problem, someone who claims to be neutral (and may well be - I will hold no grudge) came by and archived the part of the conversation that begins with my comments. Sandy has defended Karanacs right to post the question there and her position which I think is wrong too. Sandy should not have said anything to promote Karanac's position, she is supposed to be neutral. How are we to consider bringing Catholic Church to FA when Karanacs is in such a position and abusing it in this way for her own interests?

Sandy told me that Karanacs recused herself from the article on October 27th. She said that it was posted "publicly". The "public" notice was on her talk page and I learned of it on December 2nd only after she told me on the FAC talk page discussion. I think that such a notice should go on the Catholic Church talk page or my talk page if I am the person complaining about her conflict of interest. Not everyone is reading Sandy's talk page - especially people with no FAC's up for consideration. Her talk page is not a "public" notice board. Also, Karanacs opened an Rfc against me - several weeks before recusing herself from the Catholic Church article - because I argued with an editor who wanted us to eliminate the fact that some scholars agree that the Catholic Church was founded by Jesus. The accusations she makes against me in this Rfc are very mild. If you were to read the article talk page beginning with Harmakheru's edits all the way up to last Thursday,(someone - not me - felt they should be archived immediately so we have several archives that were created over the course of a month) you will see many virulent posts made by editors who were encouraged by Karanac's actions against me. Her involvement on the talk page and her biased actions against me, particularly the Rfc have damaged the talk page environment and turned it into "battleground mentality" - exactly what she was accusing me of doing when I was simply providing sources that showed another point of view held by scholars. I don't know what to do about this other than to alert you. Thanks for listening.  Nancy Heise    talk  21:11, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
 * "The reviewers are all clamoring to get their FAC's passed" (supplemented by this) is utter nonsense. Excluding NancyHeise, Karanacs and SandyGeorgia, 12 people commented at that discussion (User:Richardshusr, User:PL290, User:Pmanderson, User:Kraftlos, User:Christopher Parham, User:Awadewit, User:Elcobbola, User:Cirt, User:YellowMonkey, User:Xandar, User:Hesperian and User:Johnbod).  Only one (User:YellowMonkey) has any articles at FAC; perhaps you'd care to identify exactly what articles we're clamoring to get passed?  Alternatively, perhaps you'd care to read WP:NPA and WP:AGF and strike this unfounded misrepresentation?  Эlcobbola  talk 21:44, 2 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Additionally, even if Nancy wasn't aware that Karanacs formally recused herself from any Catholic Church FACs immediately upon initiating the RFC/U (not several weeks after as stated above by Nancy), her recusal was stated on WT:FAC and on Talk:Catholic Church before NancyHeise made these accusations across multiple pages, even after being asked to stop several times. Even absent the step of a formal recusal, Karanacs' recusal from Catholic Church FACs is implied and understood by her involvement in that article and the RFC/U.  Considering the outcome of Requests for comment/NancyHeise—which Nancy declined to participate in (even after an uninvolved user, Ncmvocalist, explained to her this important step of dispute resolution )—I'm troubled to see this failure to AGF and personal attacks continuing to my talk page (or better stated, my archives, since Nancy posted to my talk archives ), FAC talk, Raul's talk, her own talk, and Catholic Church talk, even after the RFC/U findings and even though Karanacs is clearly recused.  Further, there is no other or more appropriate place on Wiki to ask the question that Karanacs asked than at WT:FAC; the question was clearly appropriate, and Karanacs was acting as an editor, not FAC delegate.  Abuse of authority charges of FAC delegates is not something to be taken lightly; I hope Nancy will strike these unfounded comments. Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 22:16, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Sandy, where is Karanac's recusal posted on Talk:Catholic Church? It was never posted. I did find a December 1 post (yesterday) that said she sometimes recuses herself from articles she reviews but never tells us she is recused from this one. Her statement is "I still frequently review articles, and am, of course, recused from closing those I have reviewed". That was not a timely announcement - a month late I would say and not exactly an announcement - is she now reviewing Catholic Church and actually recusing herself. Stating such would be an announcement. Also, what accusations am I making without providing diffs? If an admin, especially a FAC assistant is bullying an editor, that editor should be able to complain about it. Karanac's Rfc is bullying, it is very inappropriate considering the conversations that led to the Rfc. Nowhere in any of her Rfc diffs do I do or say anything that is in violation of Wikipedia policy yet the people I am in conversation with are repeatedly in violation and she did not put their diffs up for scrutiny - that's bias, that's bullying, that's pushing a particular pov, that's using your position inappropriately. Karanacs was supporting Harmakheru's efforts to eliminate a particular point of view in the article and I detailed this on the discussion page of the RFC with diffs. He/she did not like our refs - we eliminated those refs per his/her disgust and replaced them with better ones. This editor was one of the most unreasonable and uncivil editors to work with (also evidenced on the RFC discussion page) but I never said anything to him/her in the process even though he/she was very rude. Karanacs rushed to award this editor a barnstar to encourage him/her in their efforts while ignoring the fact that the person really needed some instruction on WP:civil. I complained to her about this and told her that in our accounting firm, people who act like that are called "brown-nosers". Brown-nosing in the dictionary means you are using flattery inappropriately and that is exactly what she was doing. I thought I was helping her be a better admin by telling her but her immediate response was to open an RFC against me. Are we allowed to criticize an admin's actions? Do we have to go around in fear that they will use their power against us if we do? If so, I don't see that as beneficial to Wikipedia. Admins, more than anyone else, should be open to legitimate criticism without retaliation and without calling that legitimate criticism a personal attack.   Nancy Heise    talk  03:01, 3 December 2009 (UTC)


 * A Suggestion: This is Karanacs official post on Sandy's talk page regarding her recusal from the Catholic Church article . It is dated October 27. There is no mention of this recusal on the Catholic Church talk page at all. There is a statement on the Catholic Church talk page more than month later on December 1st where Karanacs tells us that she frequently reviews articles and is "of course" recused from those. We did not know about the "of course" part and this was posted more than a month after she opened the RFC. I suggest, in the future, if a FAC assistant is recusing herself to participate as a regular editor that this be announced on that article's talk page.
 * This suggestion of mine is legitimate criticism of this admin's actions. I am trying to help this admin be a better admin by pointing out her errors on pages where she has made the error or in this case to the appropriate authority (I think). However, my legitimate criticism is considered to be a personal attack and I am being threatened with ARBCOM by Karanacs who posted this message on my talk page . She says my criticism is "complaining and spreading attacks on me in multiple venues." I would like to know what venue was inappropriate for criticism; is there a designated place to tell an admin when they are wrong?  Nancy Heise    talk  03:51, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Who is "we" (did not know)? Even absent Karanacs' formal recusal notice on my talk page, her recusal is a given to anyone who understands Wiki processes, considering her involvement in the article and the RFC/U.  The announcement was merely a courtesy and a formality.  Dispute resolution has already been explained to you, and Karanacs herself pointed out to you on your talk page several times the venues for criticism: if you think Karanacs has acted improperly, you should go to WP:ANI or open an WP:RFC/U.  However, since Karanacs has not used admin tools in this case, there is no issue with her conduct as an admin; she is acting as an editor on that article.  ArbCom is the next step in dispute resolution, if an RFC/U doesn't resolve issues; it is not a "threat", it is a normal procedure on Wiki.  Ncmvocalist has already pointed out to you the importance of understanding and following dispute resolution procedures.  When an RFC/U doesn't resolve issues, ArbCom is the next step, where sanctions are often imposed. That you have chosen not to engage or understand Wiki's dispute resolution process, digest the conclusions of the RFC/U, and continue making unfounded accusations about Karanacs, will not bode well if the case comes before ArbCom.  Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 13:48, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Sandy,
 * If we are all about improving articles on Wikipedia then we want to facilitate good communication on the talk page. A simple notice on the CC talk page of Karanacs recusal would have accomplished this for us - eliminating the appearance special authority and conflict of interest concerning Karanac's position as FAC assistant. Expecting all of us to be watching your or anyone else's talk page is unreasonable and unhelpful as well as unprofessional and unkind.
 * I find your defense of Karanacs disturbing, especially of her RFC against me. Regarding your statement: "That you have chosen not to engage or understand Wiki's dispute resolution process, digest the conclusions of the RFC/U, and continue making unfounded accusations about Karanacs, will not bode well if the case comes before ArbCom." I participated in the RFC, if you read it, you will find that I gave the required response and participated in the discussion on the talk page.  The RFC was closed with no summary because the views were "mixed". Before opening the RFC against me, Karanacs solicited Richard's advice and he advised her that a content RFC was more appropriate. She ignored this advice. When I noted that the RFC was biased against me and that there were many editors more in need of correction than me Richard agreed and apologized for his own misconduct.  If you read this same diff, he notes "What I think Karanacs and jbmurray are trying to say is that you are coming across too contentious, too confrontational, too obstinate and too unwilling to consider other opinions. Now, you may argue that this is because the "other side" didn't provide adequate sources and it's true that, as better sources have been presented, you have shown a willingness to consider them and incorporate them ...". He is correct, I am obstinate to change something in the article if someone comes to the page without offering sources. I don't see this as a fault, sources are necessary to make article text.
 * I consider Karanacs posting on the FAC talk page a smearing of my character, a conflict of interest and abuse of her position. She never asked for it before but is now asking for a double standard when she requires that I post my complaint on her or my talk page only. She already smeared my character on the CC talk page by accusing me of canvassing but I am used to this from her - she once even accused me of plagiarism at a Catholic Church FAC . I consider this smearing my character but I didn't complain or retaliate against her. Her Rfc certainly smeared my character too. None of her complaining was done on my talk page. I could add all of this up over the past two years and open my own complaint page on her but I do not intend to retaliate. I complained to Raul here because Karanacs is a FAC assistant, so are you and I felt it was appropriate to make him aware of these problems. In your opinion would an WP:ANI have been a more appropriate or kind venue for addressing them? I don't think so.   Nancy Heise    talk  03:30, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
 * An WP:AN/I would serve no purpose, as Karanacs has not acted in any capacity as an admin or as a FAC delegate on the article. She appropriately followed dispute resolution steps by opening an RFC/U.   Also, since I have your talk page watched (because of your frequent canvassing for the article), I know that she did, in fact, come to your talk page many times, contrary to your statement above.  Also, I fail to understand your logic, that a FAC delegate has to declare something whenever they act as an editor; must I declare myself recused on the hundreds of articles I edit?  No, it's obvious that I'm recused on those articles to anyone who understands Wiki, and admins and FAC delegates are not prohibited from also editing articles, like any other editor.  There continues to be a fundamental misunderstanding here of how Wiki works.  Unfortunately, the only step left seems to be WP:RFAR. Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 04:20, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Sandy, you smear my character as well when you state "I have your talk page watched (because of your frequent canvassing for the article)". No one has accused me of canvassing except Karanacs in this recent post on the CC talk page  If you click on this link and read all five responses to her post you will see that there are five editors who disagreed with her and no editors who agree. The five who disagreed stated their reasons for knowing that I knew they would not take my position but I asked them to come participate anyway as I have in the past. I'll be happy to follow Karanacs suggested protocol of posting criticism on a person's talk page if she wants to agree to it as well.   Nancy Heise    talk  10:17, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Regarding the WP:RFAR threat from you - Sandy, this editor tried to comment at my RFC but you removed his/her comment because it was already archived. I think this clearly shows how some editors feel about Karanacs recent efforts. . I do not wish to have another round at dispute resolution but we may have to go there if you want to insist that Karanacs is spot free of any wrongdoing. Some of us clearly feel differently. I don't know how another dipute resolution will wipe that away, I think it will just solidify for us the feeling that we are being bullied. As I said in my post above, I am willing to agree to post my criticism of Karanacs on her talk page if she agrees to provide me with the same courtesy.  Nancy Heise    talk  11:12, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Since Karanacs is not operating in her capacity as FAC delegate on this article, your lengthy arguments belong elsewhere than Raul's talk page. And please stop misrepresenting: I did not threaten ArbCom-- Karanacs already told you that is the next step and she is prepared to go there, and since you don't seem to understand good faith dispute resolution and haven't backed off on your unfounded charges, it looks to be headed that way. Your other alternative is to open an RFC/U on Karanacs (I don't recommend that course, as you aren't likely to be happy with the outcome, but it is another option of dispute resolution open to you). Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 13:37, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I am rather concerned by Sandy's attitude expressed here. It would seem clear that if an FAC delegate such as Karanacs comes to participate in an article, taking a strong position against the existing wording and leading editor, and makes comments that the article is "unlikely to gain FA" until it moves closer towards her view of what the article should look like, then it should definitely have been posted that she was resiling from FAC on this. In addition Sandy's criticisms of Nancy for "canvassing" seem unwarranted - as does the post above, firstly saying she hasn't threatened arbcom, and then saying Matters seem to be headed that way unless Nancy "backs off". I personally think that Karanacs has got too personally antagonistic to Nancy, and also needs to back off. We all need to recognise that we are ALL coming to the Catholic Church article with good faith.Constant accusations of POV do not help resolve issues.  Xan  dar   02:17, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

December 4 TFA
Hi Raul. Out of curiosity, I am wondering why my request to have History of the Montreal Canadiens for tomorrow's TFA was set aside for Blade Runner? It seems a little unfortunate that a centennial anniversary is to be bypassed, perhaps because of the F1 article that appeared three days before? I can renominate for Jan 5 (100th anniversary of first game), but given tomorrow's anniversary is the key one for the franchise and league, I was hoping it could have appeared. Thanks, Resolute 22:14, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

I second this nomination. Six points for the centennial, one point for the day relevant to article topic. Smalrus 02:59, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Agreed for Habs —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.116.209.126 (talk) 05:58, 4 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Apologies for that. It was a mistake not to schedule that article for that day. I'll definitely give you the Jan 5 date (or any other one that you prefer). Sorry about that. Raul654 (talk) 17:03, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
 * No worries for that. January 5 is the next best date.  Thanks! Resolute 01:27, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

Where have you been?
Where have you been Raul? Haven't seen you around IRC in a long time, going to be dropping in soon? Prodego <sup style="color:darkgreen;">talk  03:38, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Agreed. Gigs (talk) 22:10, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Main Page
Hi, I see Remain in Light will be featured there. First of all, thanks. Second, I would like to be included with the blurb as it is one of the defining features of an arty album. And copyright-free obviously. I'd appreciate the help. Cheers. RB88 (T) 23:32, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Your edit on Today's featured article/June 5, 2007
Hy Raul654! I saw that you edited Today's featured article/June 5, 2007. Please replace Image:FrankMorphscapePose2.jpg by File:Frank Klepacki on an insert photo of his Morphscape album.jpg because the first one will be deleted. Thanks --D-Kuru (talk) 00:09, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

casualties of the yom kippur war
hi Raul, I have put some notes in the Yom Kippur war talk page on the casualties section. Can you check it please? If you see fit, please update the Yom Kippur page. Yours. Megaidler (talk) 7 December 2009

December 9
I don't envy you your job, certainly, and I wasn't trying to offend, I assure you. However, as your recent editing pattern (including scheduling the TFA with sometimes just an hour to go) indicates that you are pressed for time, and given the non-scheduling of the Montreal Canadiens on the centenary of its foundation when it had strong support at TFAR (and you've not replied to queries above about why this was), I'm wondering whether TFAR serves any purpose at the moment. On a related point, there's a whole debate at TFAR/Talk:TFAR about which astronomy articles to support for January 2010 – perhaps if you were to indicate whether you would run similar articles twice in a month, people would know where they stand. Regards, BencherliteTalk 01:25, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

December 12
Hi Raul,

Even though you selected Spyro, I'm hoping you'll still consider Planescape: Torment for December 12, as per Today's featured article/requests. I know that would be two VG articles in close succession, but keep in mind that this would be the 10th anniversary of the game's release (plus my birthday, no really!) and we did get 12 support votes prior to today, with (so far) three more enthusastically supporting despite the close proximity to Spryo.

Thanks for listening,

BOZ (talk) 01:33, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
 * No problem. In the next day or two, I'll probably schedule all the FAs for December. Raul654 (talk) 01:36, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks :) BOZ (talk) 01:37, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
 * You are aware that if you put 2 video game articles up as TFA in one week you'd be inviting a storm of criticism, right? Planescape: Torment should definitely go up on December 12, but make sure you're available to argue with the inevitable criticism you'll reveive. Feel free to refer criticism to WT:VG JACO  PLANE  &bull; 2009-12-10 16:56

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File:Julia Nickson-Soul.jpg on Commons
Hi, I'd like to help save file on Commons, but I'm not sure how I can help. Does a 'keep' vote even matter in the case, or are you the only one who can help save it? &mdash;Aladdin Sane (talk) 02:51, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I've added the OTRS ticket number, which should make tracking down information on this photo substantially easier. Raul654 (talk) 17:02, 10 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks. (Much thanks.)  Do I get to remove the deletion template, or do I wait for an admin to do that?  &mdash;Aladdin Sane (talk) 21:05, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

A time-saving thought
Would it ease your burden in scheduling TFAs if there was a designated point where FA authors could post draft blurbs for you, together with other information such as possible date relevance? User:Bencherlite/TFA blurbs (for example) was written so that I could move quickly if a relevant date became free on TFAR, but a larger selection of draft blurbs at User:Raul654/TFA blurbs, for example, would save you some typing! Regards, BencherliteTalk 07:51, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I have a similar page, User:Wehwalt/TFAblurbs. It might be you would find a centralized page a useful resource.--Wehwalt (talk) 17:18, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Question about presentation of footnote cites
Hi, Raul. Since you have experience dealing with Featured Articles, and therefore have knowledge in gauging the quality of writing/presentation/style, can you offer your opinion in this matter regarding the Peter David article? Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 17:08, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, your opinion on the section in question would be helpful. From what I see it's synthesis generated from nearly all primary sources. Rehevkor ✉  05:37, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

FAs not to appear on main page?
According to TFA, "Raul654 maintains a very small, unofficial list of featured articles that he does not intend to have appear on the main page." - just curious as to if I can see this list? I recall Wikipedia itself is never going on as it's "navel gazing" and there is a adult film actress who would be just too controversial I think - are there any others? Do you keep a on-wiki list for reference? Exxolon (talk) 21:06, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is not a FA. Raul did say a while back that the porn star was the only one, but of course he may have added to the list.--Wehwalt (talk) 21:14, 12 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Screw that. Focus on more important matters - Raul needs to have one cat related FA for every Saturday of the year. That is 52 for 2010, 52 for 2011, etc. You better start working on that! Moar cats! Ottava Rima (talk) 00:42, 13 December 2009 (UTC)


 * For anybody wondering, the porn star in question is Jenna Jameson. Steve Smith (talk) 00:46, 13 December 2009 (UTC)


 * I must be confused. OR, are you saying you want Jameson to screw a cat every Saturday for the next two years?  I suggest that the Featured Picture people be brought into this, then.--Wehwalt (talk) 00:59, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

User Rights
Hi Raul. I note that from your user page you claim to have oversight and check user rights. I seem to recall you had them removed? If so, perhaps you can update you user page to reflect that you no longer have those tools (it's somehat dishonest otherwise) - if not my apologies for this mesaage. Pedro : Chat  21:47, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I've now removed this from your userpage as would be standard form for any user claiming rights they do not have. Sorry you didn't reply to this thread, but I understand you are a busy guy! However it's only fair to keep things accurate - which I guess is the aim of an encyclopedia even in project space. Pedro :  Chat  21:12, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Articles for deletion nomination of Nataline Sarkisyan
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Library of Congress system
I needed to use the term Dewey Decimal System here and I was thinking about whether this site had a conversion chart of sorts between the Dewey system and Library of Congress system (It does--Comparison of Dewey and Library of Congress subject classification). I used the term "Library of Congress system", you'll notice. Yet you have redirected that term to Library of Congress. You, therefore, would be the one to ask. Would there be any objection to changing the redirect so it goes to Library of Congress Classification? Vchimpanzee ·  talk  ·  contributions  · 22:14, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

TFA for Jan 1
There was some significant support for Ceres (dwarf planet) to be run as a TFA for Jan 1 before the nomination was replaced with a higher pointer one. If you have time you may want to skim through the opinions listed in the link before scheduling something for Jan 1. Happy holydays, Nergaal (talk) 04:34, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

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TFA (non)request
Hi Raul,

I'm going to be on vacation from January 3rd until January 19th, so could you not have Icos as TFA before January 20th? Thanks, Shubinator (talk) 05:27, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

History of the Montreal Canadiens TFA
Hi Raul, per a little discussion I had at the requests page, I'd like to move this TFA request (per this discussion) to January 19 (100th anniversary of first official game), to leave January 5 for Brazilian battleship Minas Geraes' centennial. It'd also be nice, if possible, to get the Montreal article listed for its date a bit in advance so I don't have to worry about another request submarining this article, heh. Thanks! Resolute 17:52, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for Ceres (dwarf planet) on main page for January 1
I was surprised and gratified to see it appear, as I think, as a reader, it is a wonderful article. And it is an important anniversary as well; it ties into the history of astronomy in a way that many readers are probably unaware. I was. Thank you! Regards, — mattisse (Talk) 05:30, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Info about a picture
Hello, are you the contributor of ? The author is Clifford Mayes as the description said. Actually i am looking for other pictures of jungian psychoanalysts, could you (or not ;) help me? Thanks for your answer, (please let me a message on [my profile on Commons) --Prosopee (talk) 20:02, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Iwo Jima First Flag Raising, etc.
Hi, I was just reading the 2006/movie tie-in edition of James Bradley's book "Flags of Our Father." In it, Bradley acknowledges that his father Doc Bradley did indeed help raise the "first" flag and is barely visible in the most reproduced of those pictures (and is clearly visible in other, less known, photos by Louis Lowery). I don't think this info is in the text of the original, 2000, edition of the book. Should we use this newer printing of the book to make notes on all the pertinent pages to the effect that Doc Bradley was the only man to be involved in the rasing of both flags? Thought I would run it by you first. Also, on the Star Trek page, I have attempted to introduce the proper, as seen onscreen, credit "Based upon Star Trek created by Gene Roddenberry" into the infobox but several editors insist on reverting what I think is the proper credit (this credit was used in the film) in favor os something that says "Gene Roddenberry (franchise)," which really, imo, indicates nothing of his status regarding this film. Please look at the talk page there where I explain myself. Many thanks for your hard work. Happy New Year. Sir Rhosis (talk) 23:43, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Bureaucrat discussion for Juliancolton RfB
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February 8, 2010 FA
According to the archive it says you handle the final decision with what day featured article fall on. Ok so can you do this one thing for me, can you reserve the Featured Article for February 8, 2010 for the Boy Scouts of America article (it will be the 100th anniversary on that day), if it does not gain FA class by February you can replace it with what you want. Thank You, --12george1 (talk) 02:50, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

April Fool's Day 2010
While not a featured article, Pigeons in aerial photography may be an interesting one to put on the main page. I recall other articles being promoted for the purpose of being on the main page for April Fool's Day. --T1980 (talk) 04:11, 11 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Yes, but they go through the FAC process just like any other article. Strongly oppose "social promotion" to get an article in place for April 1, we work too hard on our FAs to cheapen the product.--Wehwalt (talk) 04:25, 11 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Maybe next year then. Let's get this one ready. Any ideas for one this year?--T1980 (talk) 01:42, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Although it is not yet a featured article, I would really, really like to see traumatic insemination up to FA status for April fools. Raul654 (talk) 04:41, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Agree, that would be a nice one  SPLETTE &#32;:]&#32;How's my driving? 05:07, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

I asked my fiance if I could put Wife selling up for our wedding day, and she told me absolutely not. As a result, it's now at the top of my candidates list for April Fools :) Raul654 (talk) 08:31, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

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Sid Barnes on TFA on eve of his birthday?
Hello Raul. Is this a mistake??  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket )  05:27, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Honestly, I didn't even notice that the next day is his birthday. And now that I think about it, that presents two problems: (a) I've already promised the 19th to the History of the Montreal Canadians (see farther up this page, in the "History of the Montreal Canadians"), and (b) I don't want two sports articles running back to back. Suggestions? Do you mind if I bump it to a week-or-so later? Raul654 (talk) 05:40, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Nevermind, I've fixed it. Raul654 (talk) 08:31, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

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Today's featured article/January 22, 2010
Please see Talk:Flag_of_Singapore. I also would like for this article to be pushed back until August 9th because that is Singapore's National Day. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 06:12, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

Ketogenic diet on Main Page
Thanks very much for scheduling this article for the main page tomorrow (17th). I suggested some small changes on the talk page which have been implemented by Graham. Hope this is OK. Cheers, Colin°Talk 13:17, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

There's a change to the image blurb I'd also like to make. See User talk:GrahamColm. Do I need to find a Commons admin to change that? Any such admins lurking here? Cheers, Colin°Talk 13:34, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Raul, if you are around, would you be able to follow issues here? Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 16:24, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

FARs to close 2
Since I am involved in these FARs, you'll have to close them at your own leisure. Not much to think about though in these cases thanks,  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket )  02:50, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Turkish literature
 * Karen Dotrice
 * And a nag on Shuttle-Mir Program as well  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket )  00:46, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Music of Minnesota  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket )  00:47, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Music of Minnesota has a temporary glitch; a changing IP is back for the third time, damaging the article. I don't know if we can/should semi-protect while an article is at FAR?  Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 00:54, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't have a problem with that, except that I nommed the article and would rather not influence the editing environment, rank vandalism aside  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket )  00:56, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, I saw that problem (that you probably can't semi it, since you nommed it). Two different Panera Bread IPs added unsourced Electro/Dance text twice, and didn't respond to my user talk or article talk queries. Now we have a RoadRunner IP adding the same unsourced or poorly sourced text.  Frustrating: I'm not sure if this is a situation where someone can semi-protect, but FA status has been jeopardized now three times by what appears to be the same editor.  (But some of the edits seem valid, so we may as well let him finish before cleaning up ... he's working now.)  Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 01:13, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I cited some of his or her additions but removed the Electro/Dance section which seems legitimate but has no sources.-SusanLesch (talk) 02:52, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

(unindent) I have lost my faith in whoever is running the FARC for Music of Minnesota. -SusanLesch (talk) 04:20, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Another reminder  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket )  23:38, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
 * If he doesn't close them soon, I'm going to organise a palace coup. Sandy, are you in? I need a respectable figurehead for my devious plan. DrKiernan (talk) 12:30, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

I closed 3 of the 4 above. I wasn't sure what to do with Music of Minnesota so I left that one open. Raul654 (talk) 17:13, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Huge mess, poor writing, and original research in a featured article
See the article's talk page for more details. The Barack Obama article's political positions section is a mess. It is referenced but poorly written, not comprehensive, describes minor points, omits major points. Selection of topics is a huge example of original research.

The article should be re-classed as a good article until it improves. Otherwise, it makes you, the FA director, a joke or someone who lets bad stuff slip through.

I suggested that the section either be brought to FA standards or, because of the original research problem, just drop it.

It doesn't matter if you are for the man or against him, the section is a nightmare, which makes Wikipedia look like a joke. Can you help? JB50000 (talk) 05:22, 19 January 2010 (UTC)


 * If you think the article is substandard, JB50000, please consider WP:FAR, which is the customary procedure for such things. Raul is indeed the Featured Article Director, but he has adopted and supervises community-based processes for determining which articles should be FA, and which should no longer be FA--Wehwalt (talk) 05:27, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Is this true, Raul? I don't want people to attack me for bringing up a bad section of a FA.  So do we let this original research and bad section get away with it?JB50000 (talk) 05:44, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, it's true. If you've sufficiently raised the issues on talk, WP:FAR is the place to deal with this. But I suggest you first read the FAR page thoroughly (including the instructions and several sample FARs all the way through) to see how it works, and also review the article's past FARs (it has had quite a few), which you can find by clicking to open the Article milestones at the top of the article talk page. Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 01:13, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Articles for deletion nomination of Robert C. Kolodny
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Commons uploaders list
A few months back you generated a list of contributors to Wikimedia Commons, ordered by total filesize of uploads. It was very interesting; would it be too much trouble to generate an updated list? Cheers, Durova 403 05:25, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Here, go nuts - List of wikipedians by commons upload sizes Raul654 (talk) 18:51, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much. :) Looks like a repeat of last fall's printout, but still useful to have that on a page.  Cheers.  Durova 405 23:13, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Sherry Freebery


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 * non notable white collar criminal BLP

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 * Raul, I agree she's notable, but inline references would be a great improvement. - Jmabel | Talk 06:26, 25 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Removing a prod from a negative unsourced BLP without any attempt at sourcing it is, from an editor of your experience and standing, truely disappointing.--Scott Mac (Doc) 01:04, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Articles for deletion nomination of Sherry Freebery
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Proposal for in the news
Hi Raul. I do not know if you still are leading/collaborating with the content of Wiki's Main Page. I just want to call to your attention that it might be of interest to include "On the News" the updated info in the article Environmental Performance Index, regarding the 2010 ranking (the updated info from the lead?). Thanks.---Mariordo (talk) 04:50, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Ice hockey at the Olympic Games
Hi Raul, I had requested the Ice hockey at the Olympic Games article to be the TFA on February 28 (the date of the men's gold medal game at the 2010 Winter Olympics), but it was removed from the request page despite having a lot of support (the only oppose was from a user who was against running it on February 12, which was the date I had originally requested). I was wondering what your thoughts on running the article were. Thanks, Scorpion <sup style="color:black;">0422  00:06, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I've given you your original request. Raul654 (talk) 19:36, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Non-free image used for TFA
Hi, File:Cloud Gate (The Bean) from east'.jpg is a non-free image but used for Wikipedia:Today's featured article/February 9, 2010. I think it should be removed from the write-up. Regards Hekerui (talk) 19:34, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I've removed it. Raul654 (talk) 19:36, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

TFA - Alerting authors
Greetings! I was delighted to see that GRB 970508 was on the main page today, as I was its primary author. I was also slightly confused, as I had not known about it until I actually saw it on the main page. I would have been a sad clam if I had missed this! I think it would be a great service to FA authors if there were a system in place to notify them when their articles are selected to appear on the main page. Perhaps a bot can do this? --Cryptic C62 · Talk 03:26, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
 * There was a post about it on Talk:GRB 970508 4 days ago. Raul654 (talk) 03:29, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
 * The article was featured nearly a year ago and I have not done any work on it since then. As such, I removed it from my watchlist quite some time ago. It is unreasonable to assume that all FA writers will indefinitely watch every article they have worked on; I would hate to see what User:YellowMonkey's watchlist would look like! A notification system would be beneficial to all, regardless of whether or not they keep FAs on their watchlists. --Cryptic C62 · Talk 03:42, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
 * It wouldn't be possible for a bot to know who to notify in many cases (I've never heard of an FA writer removing an FA from their watchlist before!) Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 03:47, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Couldn't this hypothetical bot simply look at an article's FAC page and grab the username specified after Nominator(s):? --Cryptic C62 · Talk 22:11, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
 * In many cases, those aren't still the main editors following the article (think of older FAs, and in the "olden days", FACs were typically nominated by others than the main contributors). So, it would require a lot of work for little payout.  Also, the "nominator" line is a recent addition to FAC.  I don't think it unreasonable to expect that editors involved in FA writing keep them on their watchlist, and will see when the mainpage date is added. Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 22:36, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
 * You can bet your boots that I've never taken an FA I've worked on off my watchlist, I never intend to, and I'm surprised that anyone does. They turn into a grey goo if you don't keep an eye on them, busted at FAR, and then right back to sub-GA level. Bit like a game of snakes and ladders really; it's harder to climb the ladder than it is to slide down the snake. --Malleus Fatuorum 22:44, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

I agree with Malleus and Sandy - I don't think it's unreasonable to expect an FA's authors to keep that article on their watchlist. Raul654 (talk) 23:00, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Discussion on PD text in FAs
Raul, there's a huge discussion at Wikipedia talk:Featured article criteria. At Awadewit's urging, I've avoided putting up a "vote" or RFC until there is more discussion. Sandy Georgia (Talk) 03:47, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

OTRS
Raul, not urgent, but I don't know who else to ask. I can't seem to locate a list of OTRS volunteers. I need someone who can accept and deal with image licensing explanations in Spanish. Do you know anyone, do they have a volunteer who is fluent? Sandy Georgia (Talk) 04:20, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
 * There's a list of OTRS volunteers at OTRS/personnel with languages listed (es is spanish). Killiondude, Cirt, Coren, J.delanoy, and Nishkid64 are listed with at least 2 proficiency (Babel scale). Shubinator (talk) 04:53, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much, Shubinator, but I'm also hoping for a personal recommendation, to be certain the volunteer speaks fluent Spanish and can explain licensing well. Any ideas ?  I know (or know of) Nish, Cirt, J.delanoy, and Coren and wasn't aware they spoke fluent Spanish. (?? Maybe they do?)  Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 04:56, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't know anyone personally, no. It looks like drini and Lucien leGrey are native Spanish speakers though. Shubinator (talk) 05:00, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks again for the help, Shubinator ! Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 05:18, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
 * No problem :) Shubinator (talk) 05:23, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

ROFL!!!!
ROFL!!! Man that was sure a good joke you told last week. I even put it up at my work.. one of my co-workers told me to thank you so "thanks". What is the next joke? xD Thanks for all the support with my payments Marcus.

Barnstar

 * Thanks, AD :) Raul654 (talk) 22:35, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

Glacier National Park (U.S.)
Hi Raul...its way early for it yet and I plan on doing some upgrading, but wondering if we can think about putting Glacier National Park (U.S.) up as Today's Featured Article for May 11, 2010...that would be the 100th anniversary of the park's establishment...--MONGO 03:54, 11 February 2010 (UTC)


 * I don't have a problem with that. Post it to the requests page in mid-April so I don't forget. Raul654 (talk) 22:35, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Will do...forgot about the 30 day issue...best wishes.--MONGO 05:35, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Today's featured article/February 23, 2010
I am sure we talked about this before, Talk:Flag_of_Singapore. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 05:19, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
 * My bad - it slipped my mind. I've fixed it. Raul654 (talk) 18:17, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

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MfD nomination of Newcomers are delicious, so go ahead and bite them
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Question
Raul, Karanacs opened an arbcom against me and Xandar that Sandy participated in - against me - and the arbs denied it. It was closed today and this thread took place on Sandy's talk page. I am beginning to think that if I bring an article to FAC I will not get a fair hearing if these two are sitting in the judgement seat. Do you have any advice?  Nancy Heise    talk  03:42, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Nancy, before you worry about who might still be a FAC delegate at some point in the distant future when CC becomes eligible for FAC, you might want to review 1e, stability, with respect to edit warring on the article, and WP:CONSENSUS. I'm tired of seeing your attacks on Karanacs and my impartiality; it has been explained to you multiple times that we both know when to recuse.  Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 15:29, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
 * SandyGeorgia, with respect to the Catholic Church article and the good faith editors who respectfully disagree with Karanacs positions, you really have too much to say - you are not even engaged in the article and barely know what is happening as revealed in your rejected Arbcom complaint. Your persistent harrassment of me and Xandar is bordering on Bullying. Please stop cradling Karanacs and defending her behaviour because a true friend helps their friend be a better person, not hide their faults. All I have ever done with Karanacs is tell her when she has twice crossed the line. That dispute is between Karanacs and myself - it is none of your business. As for the CC FAC, one of the reasons why I think its progress has been stalled is because of Karanacs and that is why I complained to her.  Nancy Heise    talk  02:38, 11 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Progress has been stalled on that article because of you, and Xandar as well. Let's just make that absolutely clear, as long as you're traveling around Wikipedia harassing other people's talk pages and wikiprojects in your misguided attempts to canvass support for a botched article. UberCryxic  ( talk ) 02:43, 11 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Would there be any chance of y'all just leaving Raul alone? See 1e, stability; this article is not coming to FAC, and it's not Raul's problem.  Isn't this discussion already in half a dozen places?  Nancy can appeal to Raul all day loong, but this is not a FAC matter.  Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 03:04, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Computerized postage


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 * Unreferenced. Well covered in postage meter article.

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