User:ReaderofthePack/example1

Example AfD
This book is non-notable, as it hasn't been covered by enough reliable sources to show it passes NBOOK. (nominator)


 * Keep: This passes notability guidelines since it was the basis for the film ABCD, which starred John Smith. (random editor1)
 * Keep: Seems notable, books with film adaptations are usually notable and [iffy website] and Publishers Weekly have reviewed it. (random editor2)
 * The problem though is that there has been no coverage of this anywhere from what I can see, other than the PW review. The film doesn't appear to be notable. (nominator)


 * Keep per above. (random editor3)


 * Delete: Unfortunately the film adaptation is non-notable, as it didn't gain any reviews or coverage and the only usable review for the book is by PW, as [iffy website] is a SPS. There are no other sources out there for this book and none for the movie. (random editor4)

General overview
There are a couple of different ways to look at this AfD, scenario-wise.


 * In the first scenario you come across this with only the first three arguments. These arguments are fairly weak overall, since they have a few issues. The first is that only one of them have actually provided sourcing to show notability, as film adaptations don't always give notability. The one who did provide sourcing only gave one reliable source, as the other was an iffy source.
 * In this situation the best idea would be to relist, as the nominator made a good counterargument against the other editor's arguments.
 * However if this was after several relists you could close it as a delete if the nominator's argument is valid and the strongest one. I'd recommend in this situation that you specify that you also searched for sourcing and didn't see any signs that it passed NBOOK. That could be contentious, but offhand it'd likely hold up in DRV if someone tried to argue that you made a super vote. The key here is to be specific in these situations.


 * In the second scenario the delete argument was made before it comes time to relist or after several relists. Now you can technically close this as a delete even without relisting, since the delete argument is very well made and is based in policy. It'd still be a good idea to say why the delete and nominator arguments were the strongest, but it'd be better to relist it at least once before closing it as delete, just to show that there was an attempt to get more consensus.