User:Redwolf24/Archive13

Filling up space
Talk pages look so ugly with only archives listed. If you feel other wise, you can remove this. Also, look into arguing with, and possibly banning, User:142.177.114.122 Howabout1 Talk to me! 01:20, August 28, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks. Nobody attacks our Essjay. :) Howabout1 Talk to me! 01:24, August 28, 2005 (UTC)

(wirtten after edit conflict with your responce) Ok. I never really got the difference. Howabout1 Talk to me! 01:24, August 28, 2005 (UTC)
 * Don't say ban. Banning is like... WoW and WiC and Mr. Treason. Its quite serious. I have BLOCKED that IP for attacks on Essjay, Raul, and Uninvited Co. Redwolf24 (talk) 01:23, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

Message or Massage?
Checketh thy e-mail...eth! -JCarriker 05:15, August 28, 2005 (UTC)

OKeth! Now I'm going to bed. Redwolf24 (talk) 05:28, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

FYI Tern is posting about the whole wiki thing
I am almost embarassed to be pointing this out. Please remember, Tern is only one member of the aspie community. I am giving this to you just to illustrate why he should never be unbanned.

http://aspergianisland.com/viewtopic.php?t=2056

JoeMele 05:25, 28 August 2005 (UTC)


 * sigh. Redwolf24 (talk) 05:28, 28 August 2005 (UTC)


 * Heh. Tern has now given Wikipedia an entire category on his web site. ManekiNeko 21:19, 28 August 2005 (UTC)


 * Sigh! I hope he doesn't expect to ever be unblocked. I've blocked myself from talking at his talk page, all he does is whine about Wikipedia. R  e  dwolf24  (talk) 21:27, 28 August 2005 (UTC)


 * All I can say is that I am very very glad I did not edit under my original account (the one that could be easily traced to my offline identity) when I first edited his additions to the AS page. Besides, ManekiNeko is a much cooler user name... ManekiNeko 21:38, 28 August 2005 (UTC)


 * Haha. Yeah it is :) R  e  dwolf24  (talk) 21:40, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

Esperanza
Of course I will. Thanks for letting me know. Acetic Acid 06:54, August 28, 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks for letting me know about it, but it's a little too organized for my taste. :-) FreplySpang (talk) 20:36, August 28, 2005 (UTC)
 * Don't worry, p.s. I saw the deletion log with Steven R. Smith... R  e  dwolf24  (talk) 21:27, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Hey, sorry I hadn't responded yet, still on my laptop and hadn't done much personal stuff, just Wiki-work. I will give it a good read soon :) &infin; Who ? &iquest; ?  22:49, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

Katrina is sounding scary... R e  dwolf24  (talk) 22:50, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Yea it was only a category 1 here, but enough to do a ton of damage. I probably wont have power till wednesday, off since thur. &infin; Who ? &iquest; ?  23:48, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

The reference desk...
The reference desk...is now split into 4 subdesks. Check out WP:RD and click around. Might also want to check out WP:RD/A. --HappyCamper 12:41, 28 August 2005 (UTC)


 * k. R  e  dwolf24  (talk) 21:27, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

Thank you for your courteous welcome.
I hope you dont mind if I loiter in the sandbox.


 * Oh boy a new sandboxian! R  e  dwolf24  (talk) 22:40, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

Sig
Nice sig, Redwolf. Howabout1 Talk to me! 22:43, August 28, 2005 (UTC)


 * Thanks. See also User:Redwolf24/Sandbox. R  e  dwolf24  (talk) 22:45, 28 August 2005 (UTC)


 * Oooooo. You should change your sig every day or so, so everyone will me mad at you. :) Howabout1 Talk to me! 00:35, August 29, 2005 (UTC)

thanks
thank you for your message, Redwolf. I've already put some of your suggestions in practice. Thanks again, Kekszakallu 23:52, 28 August 2005 (UTC)


 * Glad to see :D R  e  dwolf24  (talk) 00:36, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

vfd question
are admins allowed to vote in a vfd they close? Ryan Norton T 01:25, 29 August 2005 (UTC)


 * It depends. On clearcut decisions its fine. On narrow decisions, like 2/3 and they close the same way they vote, its inadvisable. R  e  dwolf24  (talk) 01:26, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

I just saw this and was a little confused. Thanks for clearing it up :) Ryan Norton T 02:28, 29 August 2005 (UTC)


 * Thats messed up... I mentioned it in IRC and someone's gonna relist it. R  e  dwolf24  (talk) 02:40, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

Protection
Could you protect Template:WelcomeH1 for me? People keep editing it. I don't modify it often, but I would need you to make occasional changes. Howabout1 Talk to me! 03:26, August 29, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks. Howabout1 Talk to me! 22:18, August 29, 2005 (UTC)

VFD
Thanks for the info. I was wondering how to do those, I'm new to VFD, I used to do speedies in the past. I'm glad the India del. sorting was started. I can now participate in it without loading the long list of VFD material. =Nichalp  «Talk»=  06:43, August 29, 2005 (UTC)

criminal behavior

 * "slander, libel, or defamation of character is not to be tolerated on Wikipedia; true instances of such writing, that might legitimately expose Wikipedia to legal sanction, should immediately be called to the attention of an administrator and/or the community at large. Disagreements as to the identity of a person, their motivations for a given action, opinions of third parties about them, etc. do not fall under slander, however, and you should not use legal threats as a bludgeon to get your POV enshrined in an article." - official policy

You are violating this policy by deleting requests at speedy deletions that attempt to enforce this policy. You are further engaged in criminal behavior by participating in a coordinated effort with User:Essjay, User:Howabout1, User:Raul654 and User:UninvitedCompany (who made the libel originally) to continue to expose Wikimedia to liability by doing what you can to keep comments or page history in view that is dangerous to Wikimedia and against avowed policy.

Wikimedia and persons libelled thus have grounds for a joint action against you, should this continue.


 * Yawn. First of all I'm nothing but an account in your eyes, there is no way for you to find EVEN MY IP ADDRESS unless you figure out some way to hijack Tim Starling's password. And besides that no one's taking you seriously as you aren't substantiating any of your claims anyway. R  e  dwolf24  (talk) 22:24, 29 August 2005 (UTC)


 * BTW do you know that you should sign your contribution (wikipedia policy, and probably for legal reasons in our state). Anyway: could you cite with page was speedy and maybe some explication. You accused people without prove it!. And I think you should calm down and relax. Cate 13:51, 29 August 2005 (UTC)


 * Nice to see you Cate :D R  e  dwolf24  (talk) 22:24, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

Wow, they get wierder every day. I'd block him as he seems to have a similar IP as the last guy if you haven't already. Howabout1 Talk to me! 22:30, August 29, 2005 (UTC)


 * OF COURSE its the same guy. Look its the same three people, plus us two. By the way I hope WelcomeH1 isn't supposed to be your private welcome template, cause if it is then move it to User:Howabout1/Welcome and type at the newbie's talk pages.  R  e  dwolf24  (talk) 22:39, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

Well, ya I knew it is the same guy. You can do that with a user page. I thought it had to be a template. I'll move it User:Howabout1/Welcome. Howabout1 Talk to me! 23:08, August 29, 2005 (UTC) P.S. Please don't delete the template or else 100 or so users will no longer have a welcome message. Howabout1 Talk to me! 23:10, August 29, 2005 (UTC) Hey, Redwolf! What's up in the hizzouse? Sorry. I'll never say that again. But really, what's up? Since you don't know me well, My name's Roxi, incase you didn't know. Just leavin' you a note, n' sayin' "hi". By the way, you rock. - InfallibleRoxi 10:17 AM, 8/29/05


 * Haha thanks, I guess ;) R  e  dwolf24  (talk) 22:24, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

I should calm down. I will remove the WikiEnemies. I should have been clear on what offended me.-- Anti-Anonymex2 Come to my page! I've gone caliente loco! 20:26, 29 August 2005 (UTC)


 * Thanks. R  e  dwolf24  (talk) 22:24, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

Is there some reason...
That you've now twice removed me from Esperanza without comment? Shem(talk) 23:49, 29 August 2005 (UTC)


 * I didn't remove you, I put you under general membership. Notice how it says no more members to this category? R  e  dwolf24  (talk) 23:54, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Ah crap! I didn't see that. I was removing my timestamp and I moved you too :( Redwolf24 (talk) 23:56, 29 August 2005 (UTC) (taken from his talk page for clarification)
 * No, you removed me. Notice where I was one of the first to join Jay on this? Shem(talk) 23:58, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Go see your talk page. R  e  dwolf24  (talk) 23:59, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * You'd not written the second line yet; thanks for the clarification. Shem(talk) 00:02, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

help with my photo
Hi Redwolf. I'd appreciate your advice on the photo of myself that I just uploaded to my user page (as a test run for uploading other photos). Do I need a copyright tag? User:Tony1 Tony 00:22, 30 August 2005 (UTC)


 * Just type GFDL on it. R  e  dwolf24  (talk) 00:23, 30 August 2005 (UTC)


 * Or if that doesn't work for you, see WP:ICT. R  e  dwolf24  (talk) 00:26, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

Thanks! :-) Tony 00:33, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

Deletion cleanup
Please don't forget to check "what links here" for references and redirects, e.g.,

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Whatlinkshere&target=Moti_Corner

mikka (t) 02:37, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

Done. R e  dwolf24  (talk) 02:38, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

Jtkiefer's RFA
Thanks for your support on my RFA. Jtkiefer T - 05:15, August 30, 2005 (UTC)


 * Yup. R  e  dwolf24  (talk) 05:32, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

Voting Policy - Part Deux
Scratch what I said before. If I knew you then the way I know you now, I would have voted for you without a doubt. That policy only applies to users whom I haven't seen in action. Acetic Acid 06:59, August 30, 2005 (UTC)


 * I noticed that your user page is a little lacking in the green department, so I figured I'd assist my signing my name. Acetic Acid (talk) 07:45, August 30, 2005 (UTC)


 * Good. R  e  dwolf24  (talk) 00:35, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

Gordon Chengof
Some fool changed the darn template for VfD and I used it to see if Gordon Cheng was deleted. I thought it was speedied, that was totally unreasonable and undeleted. Now I notice that it was conducted properly - will rectify ASAP. - Ta bu shi da yu 10:36, 30 August 2005 (UTC)


 * I hate when people recreate VfD'd pages :-/ R  e  dwolf24  (talk) 00:35, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

VFD: ANTs Data Server
Hi. Please see: Wikipedia talk:Votes for deletion/ANTs Data Server. bogdan | Talk 19:56, 30 August 2005 (UTC)


 * K I see that now. It was redirected now to a valid article. R  e  dwolf24  (talk) 00:35, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

I think the keep vote should probably be reviewed. I don't think anyone would object if you looked at the number of socks who voted in the discussion and reversed the vote.

As it happens the person who removed the VfD tag earlier seems to have come back and reverted the redirect. I'm getting a bad feeling about this and strongly suspect a commercial operation to seed Wikipedia with advertising copy. As a database programmer I'd say the entry is sales talk. If you want more opinion you could raise it on WP:ANI or somewhere. --Tony Sidaway Talk 00:48, 31 August 2005 (UTC)


 * Well then we'll protect the redirect :) R  e  dwolf24  (talk) 00:49, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

Tag :p
*tap* You're it! :-) --HappyCamper 01:13, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

<.< wha? R e  dwolf24  (talk) 01:14, 31 August 2005 (UTC)


 * I'm guessing it's a game of tag. You tag someone else, like those little chain mail posts or something? I could be completely wrong tho.... -Sunglasses at   night  02:36, 31 August 2005 (UTC)


 * I tagged you before you said thata! R  e  dwolf24  (talk) 02:37, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

Nice sig
I like the subtle incorperation of the esperanza green letter e in your sig. Very clever, sir! I salute you! -Sunglasses at   night 02:35, 31 August 2005 (UTC)


 * Haha thanks. P.S. *tag* you're it! R  e  dwolf24  (talk) 02:36, 31 August 2005 (UTC)


 * Aww fudge! But yeah, I've already joined, thank you! First order of buisness on the birthday thing, MAKE A BIRTHDAY CAKE! (we only have a crappy one. I got a wedding cake on mine. this must be changed). Good luck sir. However, I'm not exactly sure who I shall tag. And I take it "tag-backs" are out of the question? - Sun glasses at night 02:39, 31 August 2005 (UTC)


 * Of course they are. R  e  dwolf24  (talk) 02:39, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

Alice
Yeah, but a solo band is still a band.Someoneinmyheadbutit'snotme 03:42, 31 August 2005 (UTC)


 * Most of the time we refer to Alice Cooper in the article we say the band for before the band broke up. R  e  dwolf24  (talk) 03:43, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

Bass redirect
Helloo! You seem to know what you're talking about. Perhaps you could let me know about this one. I have been going through checking all the links to bass because they were pointing at a disambiguation page called Bass. I was making them point either to Bass guitar or to bass (fish) or to Bass (musical term) and so on. You have the idea already. Now I have discovered that someone has made the Bass article into a redirect page to bass guitar. This is sort of all right, because what used to be 'bass' is now 'bass (disambiguation)'. However, it does mean that all the links I didn't get round to fixing will automatically go to the bass guitar (which may be wrong, i.e. not what the reader wants) instead of to the disambiguation page (which should help them find the page they do want). Am I right to be concerned about this? Brequinda 12:53, 31 August 2005 (UTC)


 * Sounds like there shouldn't be too many problems. Go to 'what links here' on bass guitar and scan it for pages you think may be referring to the fish. Though I'd bet most of the pages going to bass would mean bass guitar, just because of all the band pages. ;) R  e  dwolf24  (talk) 13:11, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Well, that was just a silly redirect, Bass is known for so many other things than just Bass guitar, I liked the previous version of Bass better as the disambig page, so I changed the redirect to point to Bass (musical term) instead. More general of a term, as I doubt everyone searching for Bass will want bass guitar. &infin; Who ? &iquest; ?  18:36, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Actually, nevermind, I reverted it back to the disambig version, the other new user didn't bother fixing any double-redirects or links, and Bass is better served as the disambig, seeings it has no specific meaning.  &infin; Who ? &iquest; ?  18:53, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

You what?
I didn't use the words or list the article as "patent nonsense". I merely suggested that undergraduates should be wheeled out and shot. Seems sound policy. --Tagishsimon (talk)

Question for you as a mediator
(this is a question based on an already resolved dispute about me - and there are no real right answers). So, a 3rd party was inserting a mock vote over the "votes for deletion" to "articles for deletion" page on the VfD talk page. An administrator removes the section with a personal attack on the 3rd party claiming that votes are not allowed. Afterwards, the protagonist puts the mock vote comments back, claiming that it is inappropriate to remove comments from talk pages without good reason. Then an edit war ensues between our protagonist and the admin. Finally our protagonist gets blocked, with the admin claiming a violation of WP:POINT.

How would you resolve this?

Ryan Norton T 02:49, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

I don't see the POINT violation. I don't see evidence of the anon disrupting anything from the evidence you have shown me. The admin should not have blocked a user they were in an edit war with, this is strictly forbidden. I would unblock the anon and probably warn the admin. R e  dwolf24  (talk) 03:03, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

Interesting :). Well, if you are curious to know what happened - the protagonist (which was me) was unblocked, and the involved parties (Admin was Kim Bruning) decided to move the mock vote to the user space of the 3rd party that created it, possibly leaving a link on the VfD talk page. Ryan Norton T 03:07, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

Well duh the protaginist was you. That was a given. :P R  e  dwolf24  (talk) 03:08, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

Break
Since I jumped on you over it, I'm leaving you a note. I'm going on a little Wikibreak. You know I've slowed down recently, and I'm not sure what I want the future of my contributing to be. For the time being, I'm going to pull back. You may see me doing a few little things, answering talk page posts, etc., but if you need me, send me an email or catch me on MSN. I'm not putting up a wikibreak notice on my page because I don't want a flood of "please don't leave" notices to sort through. Anyhow, see you around. -- Essjay · Talk 04:32, September 1, 2005 (UTC)


 * K, seems fair. R  e  dwolf24  (talk) 04:34, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

Help please!
Hi, I would like to delete the last comment I made on a talk page (I mean including history and not including this one). I'm not sure how or whether I can do it. Is it possible?

Thanks! Nao* 15:25, 1 September 2005 (UTC)


 * Unfortunately, we can't. The only people who are technically able to are admins, such as myself, and this is normally discouraged. Plus even if I deleted a comment of mine from the history another admin would be able to view it. The only times we fully remove things, i.e. with developers, is for... well one example would be an anon who posted the FULL BOOK VERBATUM of Harry Potter book 6. Anyways the point is, no, you cannot remove it from the history. Just pray that they never read it ;) R  e  dwolf24  (talk) 22:28, 1 September 2005 (UTC)


 * Thanks for answering that question (and thanks to Nao for asking it) as I had been wondering about deleting history for a while. By the way, it's "verbatim". I take it the etiquette on editing talk page posts with typos are to leave them alone, correct? (Thanks to the trusty google toolbar's spelling check, one does not see nearly as many typos and mispellings as they might otherwise) - Sun glasses at night


 * I know its verbatim, that was a typo. And you have permission to fix typos all that you please at this page. It makes me appear to be smarter ;) R  e  dwolf24  (talk) 22:54, 1 September 2005 (UTC)


 * Thank you sir, you as well (and that goes to everyone, on every one of my posts). I am a horrible speller, and as long as you dont rub it in, I'll be endlessly thankful. Good day, good sir. - Sun glasses at night 22:56, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

Alice Cooper et al.
No problem man! I just picked Martin C. Strong's Great Rock Discography (7th ed.) and so will be updating all sorts of data in the Albums section. --NielsenGW 01:35, September 2, 2005 (UTC)


 * Great! :D R  e  dwolf24  (talk) 01:36, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

ulayiti's RfA
Thanks for both the wish and your support for my RfA. It's probably WP:BEARDKEEP that you know me from, since I had never heard of those other two things until now (I'm a member of WP:BEARDDELETE though, so maybe I should leave a personal attack here :-P ). Esperanza sounds interesting though... maybe I'll join it later on... - ulayiti (talk)   (my RfA)  02:30, 2 September 2005 (UTC)


 * noes!1 bearderly love!onehunderedeleven Anywho, Esperanza is a great association I'd recommend you look into :) R  e  dwolf24  (talk) 02:35, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

My objection
Sure, The wikiproject is meant to be a collaboration. The History of Alaska is good, worthy of FA, but it was started on Aug-30 and submitted on Sep-1. Toothpaste has done really well but a very large chunk of the additions has come from herself. If I'm given assurances from a resident of Alaska that there are no problems with the history, I'll withdraw my objection. =Nichalp  «Talk»=  05:06, September 2, 2005 (UTC)


 * Well also notice you are the first to object, wouldn't an Alaskan object to the FAC? Toothpaste even sourced all her facts. R  e  dwolf24  (talk) 22:10, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

uploading sound files?
Redwolf, can you direct me to the appropriate tutorial? Also, can I put in a plea for some kind of search mechanism for Wiki special, how-to pages? It's often hard to find what you want. Tony 05:11, 2 September 2005 (UTC)


 * Go to WikiProject Spoken Wikipedia. And for the special pages, just go to Special:Specialpages, and you should be able to find what you want. Every page possible is there, cept for a few which you can't access as you're not an Admin, Bureaucrat, or Developer. R  e  dwolf24  (talk) 22:14, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

Testing
Thank you for experimenting with Wikipedia. Your test worked, and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you want to do. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia, which you are more than welcome to do.

In other words, don't touch my user page. --WikiFan04Talk 18:14, 2 Sep 2005 (CDT)

Votes for deletion/LaChambre
I don't want to interfere, but stumbled across this. A number of other VfD's were added to it, but not deleted with it. Should they have been? Or should there VfD tages be removed? I've no interest either way, just tiding up. --Doc (?) 17:28, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

Sorry if I seem to be pulling you up, but shouldn't Platinumpresto have been deleted per VfD. I'd fix it, but it takes an admin. --Doc (?) 20:41, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

WelcomeH1
You can delete it if you want, it gets messed up if I put subst: in front of it. I bunch of people can just have Template:WelcomeH1 on their talk page. Howabout1 Talk to me! 21:04, September 3, 2005 (UTC)

What's your program?
What's your program, Sir? You just posted to the Toby discussion in such a way as to make clear that you (a) looked at the demo and (c) proceeded immediately to comment without (b) reading any of the discussion inbetween. If you think that's a lot of work, it is -- and I don't think anybody not willing to put in the work should have much of a voice. You might at least have the courtesy to begin your remarks with, "Well, I didn't actually bother to understand this proposal, but..."

You decided to inflame public opinion by zapping another's user page before I had even finished constructing Zap. As I can see by that user's comments here, that was not "okay".

It's difficult enough to build useful tools and explain them to people without having editors shitting on them -- without thought, without care. I'm sure you'd be happy if I just went on my way and left Wikipedia all to you and your buddies as your own private Sandbox. Congratulations! You're starting to bring me around to your point of view. &mdash; Xiong &#29066; talk * 23:33, 2005 September 3 (UTC)


 * I have talked to WikiFan04 in the IRC room about that whole thing. It was originally intended as a joke I thought he would get, but his reaction was negative.


 * But that's not the point of all this. Whenever someone disagrees with something you put up you always say 'stop shitting on it and try to help us with it' But why should we help you with something that we don't even agree with. Democrats shouldn't make fun of Bush, no... they should contribute to his campaign. And I have seen you accuse Dan of a personal attack on you at the VfD, and now you're saying here "well, I didn't actually bother to understand this proposal, but...". R  e  dwolf24  (talk) 23:39, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

Cryptic for admin
User:Cryptic, at least judging by what I saw thought he was an Admin... but he's not (there seem to be a lot of good candidates lately).

Cryptic has 2700+ edits and I think would make a great admin... but his first edit appears on june 12, so do you think we should nominate him on the 12th :)?

Ryan Norton T 03:39, 4 September 2005 (UTC)


 * Seems fair, and remember, do NOT say he's been here three months, let people figure that out ;) Oh and by the way, Carnildo NEVER thanked me for nominating him :( R  e  dwolf24  (talk) 03:50, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

Don't worry about it red :)..... I'll thank you (thanks!) LOL. Just think of it as making wikipedia a better place :). Ryan Norton T 03:58, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

Lots of barnstars



 * Hey! I saw you give that same award to Essjay! Tell me, good sir, which one has the most barnstars? Or is this like playing favorites? Anyway, nice award, and congrats to you for getting it (all three of ya's) - [[User:Mysekurity|Mysekurity ]] additions | e-mail ]] 04:18, 4 September 2005 (UTC)


 * See User:Essjay/Gallery. I think I beat him ;) R  e  dwolf24  (talk) 04:33, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
 * I got the same award myself for having 23 awards. Since both of them seem close to my count, I gave it both to them. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 04:42, 4 September 2005 (UTC)