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Evaluation of article: Carl Jung by Reid Prestwood

Edits to be made on Carl Jung Article:
 * 1) Most of the facts in the entire first half of this page were devoid of source material, this could be because it is conjecture based on facts, but there still needs to be somewhat of a citation for this information to be fully valid. Once the early life and more biographical aspects of Jung's life were touched upon, the sources and citations seemed more ample than the aforementioned part of the article.
 * 2) Most all of the information in this article is relevant to the topic. The only abstract concepts touched upon that I saw were when the article referenced either the influences of Carl Jung's work or the work that his work influenced itself. A particular section that stood out to me as not being entirely relevant were two snippets about Jung's travels in the Far East; they may have been relevant to the topic but the arrangement of the text in relation to other pieces of it was wholly nonsensical. (WOULD YOU OPT TO REMOVE IT OR REARRANGE IT?): Personally I would choose to remove the section entirely since I do not have any knowledge or know any source to find further information about Jung's travels during this time. It would be a good idea to elaborate on this topic if there was more information available however.
 * 3) Most of the information was sourced from places that seem devoid of most bias, with the exception of information from his personal estate. This is not guaranteed that it contains bias, but there is obvious motive for a person close to the one being discussed to alter information for a more positive appearance. The rest of the sources seem to come from third party biographies or journals discussing Jung's early work.
 * 4) The most underrepresented viewpoint that I did not see discussed was in the section of Jung's mentorship under Freud. The article acknowledges he was both a student and admirer of Freud's work, but also fails to leave out the complete dissension from Freud's way of thinking that Jung had towards the end of their friendship. (I WOULD STATE THAT MENTOR/MENTEES ARE NOT OFTEN CHARACTERIZED AS FRIENDS): You're right about this part, I appreciate the feedback. I should make the edit more appropriate sounding before publishing the final version into the article.  This is important to note when giving a full spectrum bio. Coincidentally, the most overrated aspect of the article I would say is the impact of Freud on Jung being communicated. Jung had vast disagreements with Freud as written in his personal novels, and this article does a great job of missing that almost entirely.
 * 5) I could not find any information that caught my eye as being out of date. There are many things that could be added to this article, Jung's early childhood home and the experiences he had there which pointed him towards his field of study, his archetypal breakdown of the psyche and the roots of that, his massive philological experience, his experiments and findings with the concept of synchronicity etc..

Joslyn Winn's review:
 * 1) The Red Book by Carl Jung, 2009.jpg Jung's Liber Novus or Red Book in originally published format.]]In the Red book section, add in the concept that carries throughout the book of a 'Spirit of the Depths' and speculation on this concept being in line with his Collective Unconscious concept. Though Jung had previously identified the depths as relating to the unknown aspects of an individual psyche, in Liber Novus he presents the depths as being an all pervasive consciousness rather than singular in nature.
 * 2) In the Key Concepts Section, add a note onto the Synchronicity segment that he published a volume entitled Synchronicity that detailed multiple studies he conducted related to it. These experiments, Jung claimed, proved a significant enough correlation between chance probability and expected outcomes; though he himself stated that the correlation was fleeting in nature.
 * 3) In the Archetypes section add a note that Jung wrote about this being a fractal and not absolute concept. This meaning that though an individual may have aspects of their psyche that seem to fall in line with a singular consistent archetype, there may be additional archetypes at play in their behavior.
 * 4) In the Spirituality section of the article, add in the fact that he wrote about many concepts relating to interpreting dreams and their meanings having specific spiritual implications for the dreamer. This was written about in his The Archetypes and The Collective Unconscious as well as Man and His Symbols. Jung often implemented dream interpretation in his therapeutic practice, claiming that the subconscious and symbolical aspects of an individual's psyche more clearly manifest themselves in this state.

I think you did a great job evaluating the article and adding what relevant information you felt the article was missing. I enjoyed the input on the spirituality section including some of Jung's work on the interpretations of dreams. It was very interesting. I also noticed that you mentioned how some of the "facts" in the article lacked source materials in your evaluation, which is great that you noticed because at first read of the article, I failed to notice such. Overall, I think you did really good and your additional information went well with the flow of the article. I also think it would have been beneficial to add more information on his time spent in the army as well as the year spent in London, considering those sections are rather vague and don't tell much about his work during those times.

Response To Joslyn Winn: I appreciate the feedback about my additions into the article. I definitely did not realize the issue with source material upon first read of the article either, it was the third or fourth time through before I noticed I believe. Hoping my edits to the spirituality section will share more light on this matter and make the information more understandable. Thank you for your comments about my additions going with the flow of the article as this was one of the main things I was apprehensive about.