User:Relentlessly/GAR

GA review advice
Hi. I just picked your name out of Good Article help/mentor and I wonder if I can ask your advice. I put a question at Good article help, but it doesn't seem hugely active and no one has replied.

Yesterday I reviewed two GA nominations for the first time. I'd really appreciate knowing if I've got it right! The two articles are Atlanta Flames (nom) and Binky Brown Meets the Holy Virgin Mary (nom). I notice in particular that a bot so far hasn't added the GA icon to the pages...

Many thanks for your help.

Relentlessly (talk) 22:11, 29 March 2015 (UTC)


 * - The apparent problem I can see at a first glance is that these reviews are probably too short. What I do is generally the following :


 * 1) Run the "external links" script to see if any dead links pop up
 * 2) Estimate the page size and determine if the lead is long enough
 * 3) Start reading the lead, and mention any time the prose could be better or just different
 * 4) For each facet of the lead, ensure the body of text repeats it, and mention if it doesn't
 * 5) Read each section in the body, again mentioning prose changes
 * 6) For each citation, check as best as possible if it verifies the information immediately before it. This tends to take the longest - book and journal sources can sometimes be estimated against a Google Books source, but sometimes I will say "are you sure about 'x'" regarding an offline source
 * 7) If a claim is unsourced, or looks like it may be unsourced, flag it
 * 8) Check all images and check the fair use rationales
 * 9) See if there's anything missing in the article that should be included to meet the "broad in coverage" part of the criteria, and if so, suggest it

That said, I looked at Binky Brown Meets the Holy Virgin Mary and it doesn't seem to be too far off meeting the GA criteria. I would note the following:
 * "is a comic-book story from 1972" - does that mean it's a story set in 1972 or released in 1972?
 * "that gave him psychological torment" - since Justin Green is still living, that means the BLP policy needs to be adhered to, and something like "psychological torment" probably should be toned down a bit. I'd ask specifically what is in Hatfield 2005, p. 134 that led to this prose being written
 * What relevance has File:Saint Mary Catholic Church (Indianpolis, IN) - interior, statue of the Blessed Virgin Mary.jpg to the article?
 * The three large images at the bottom should be reduced in size

As for bot activity, it was taken off the queue in this edit, but the bot couldn't match up the review with its internal data structure for some reason. I've seen this problem before and raised it on WT:GAN but not really had a satisfactory response.

So there you go, some ideas. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  16:13, 30 March 2015 (UTC)


 * That's enormously helpful; thank you. It's much more helpful than the official GA guidance, actually! I'll have a good look through it before doing any more nominations, etc. Very much appreciated. Relentlessly (talk) 16:29, 30 March 2015 (UTC)