User:Rezter/Archive3

AfD nomination of Psychosocial (song)
An article that you have been involved in editing, Psychosocial (song), has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Articles for deletion/Psychosocial (song). Thank you. Do you want to opt out of receiving this notice? Mdsummermsw (talk) 19:52, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Song deletion
As much as I agree with everything that you've said; and I have posed questions that have been ignored, we might as well let them delete it. We both know that it's ridiculous, but in two weeks, a few clicks and we'll have it back up. No sense in arguing when they're convinced to delete it anyway.  Black  ngold29   22:17, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I know, but they'll refuse to admit they're wrong; they've ignored points made against them and they'll continue to throw out randome policies, even if they don't apply. I can't figure out why they can't find anything better to do... I mean, are they worried about taking up space on Wiki's server's or what?  Black  ngold29   22:25, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

MFKR
I might as well contact you directly, because we're the only two who seem to be making contibs to WP:SLIP. (Vol. 3 from basically nothing to GAN in 3 days! We're a machine!) Anyway, what did you have in mind for MFKR? Your collection is superior to mine, I don't have very many sources that relate to the early days. I did some seaching on the internet for "Reception" and can find about two reviews. I guess since it is a demo (which if we can get through this without some random person bringing up that crap again, I'll be surprised) the article could be somewhat different than a regular album. I guess we could still try to put together a "music and lyrics themes" and "recording of" but we'll probably be hard pressed for sources the whole way through. What were you thinking?  Black  ngold29   02:17, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Heh, I think my weakness is intros too. But I'll add some stuff from the musical themes section, and it should be an acceptable length. Do you think the external links should stay? I don't really think an "Unofficial site" really qualifies as notable, but it's not that big of a deal. I guess we're doing 9.0 live next then?  Black  ngold29   20:03, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
 * About the Roadrunner Demo: I've always kind of thought, if there is no hope of getting it to GA then does it really deserve its own article? I mean, it is nice to have an article about it; but per WP:V, "If an article topic has no reputable, reliable, third-party sources, Wikipedia should not have an article on that topic". I'd be the last guy in the world to nom it for deletion, but I think we could probably merge it into the Slipknot (band) article. Thoughts?  Black  ngold29   20:20, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Alright, I guess we could always hope for a DVD from the band which goes into detail on it. You never know with them.  Black  ngold29   20:27, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

We need to add a credit for the track listing on MFKR. I assume it's "All songs credited to Slipknot", as on other releases?  Black  ngold29   21:40, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Images
Yeah, I was going by the way Joey Jordison's image had been uploaded. I don't think there is a copyright holder for any of the images (bar Corey's). The only unmasked images of the band's members that are copyrighted are photo shoots for side projects of other band members who play unmasked, unmasked footage from Voliminal, the interviews Mick and Shawn did unmasked. All the images I uploaded are unprofessional photos (except Corey's, which is a promotional shot for Stone Sour, and this is reflected in its licensing). Anyways the point is I was applying the way one member's image has been described, to images of the other six who had no accompanying images. So if I'm wrong, how else should the images be described correctly? Because I think it's important that there be images used to illustrate the band's members; a couple even had tags on their talk pages requesting images. Vixen Windstorm (talk) 19:40, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Re: Vol. 3
Heh, yeah; we should rename the project Rezngold's Slipknot WP, lol. There were a few other projects that I would like to improve someday, but going through them by myself really sucks. I'll take care of the Aof stuff and put 9.0 as the next nom. It'll probably be pretty short compared to the others, I wrote the reception a while ago but we could probably find some way to expanded or at least a few new reviews. We could probably get a few DVD's or something before AHIG is released and then do that one. Keep it up!  Black  ngold29   02:15, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Hey, while you start putting in the base for MFKR (make sure you see my note about the title on the talk page, someone removed the period after 'Repeat'), I'm gonna start cleaning up All Hope Is Gone (album). I think some of the info is in the wrong sections and there's a few other little things to fix; shouldn't take too long.  Black  ngold29   01:58, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Ugh, I thought we were past this. I guess we just propose deletion then?  Black  ngold29   03:58, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

No problem on MFKR, I've found plenty of other stuff to keep me busy. I'm ready when you are.  Black  ngold29   16:22, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (Image:Slipknot Psychosocial.jpg)
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"Psychosocial"
Hey, about the promo CD, that was why I removed the future single template, because it was due for release today, and yet today a CD did indeed surface. If it's not out yet then put the template back, doesn't matter. It must be on iTunes or something though, I'm not sure since I don't use that. You asked about the promo version though, and as to where I'm getting the information, a torrent of its contents, as well as some blurry but satisfying photographs of the front and back covers, as well as the disc, surfaced on Demonoid. Vixen Windstorm (talk) 01:08, 2 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Well I'd trust a torrent saying there is a CD version when included are digital camera photos of the case and disc, like I said lol. Vixen Windstorm (talk) 10:13, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

9.0 Live
Well, they usually recommend to look for other similar albums, but I can't find any other GA or FA live albums. I wrote the reception section, which I think is decent length. I suppose we could add a Musical themes section and add info for the tracks from their respective studio albums, but don't they usually discourage repeated info? As far as sources, I only have the album which does have some prose from the band about the album, which we could use. I don't know what else would be out there, maybe something on the cities in which it was recorded, but finding the city for each track might be difficult to impossible, as Corey doesn't shout a variation of "[Insert city here] are you fuckin with me!!?" on all the tracks. Any ideas?  Black  ngold29   23:44, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Damn, you're on a roll today. Two GANs and the demo overhaul. Nice!  Black  ngold29   02:59, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
 * There are a few other pics over on Flickr that we could probably use somewhere. Since you uploaded the other ones on the Commons and I would probably screw it up, would you mind uploading them? I was thinking we could put this one on 9.0: Live, since it's got the Vol. 3 cover art in the background, and is obviously from that tour. Thanks!  Black  ngold29   06:31, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of FA-Class Slipknot articles
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Assessment
Nice dude, I like it. I assume we'll get one of these things up and running too? I think they're cool, but have no clue how to put the damn thing together correctly. If you need anything, you know where I am.  Black  ngold29   17:11, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Cool, I guess we just rate the articles left then?  Black  ngold29   17:19, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

What do you think about this kind of timeline for Slipknot band members? I don't really know what the standard for FL band member lists is.  Black  ngold29   18:39, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I see. WP Slayer seems to have a pretty good track record, following them couldn't hurt. I'll save it somewhere if we ever need it.  Black  ngold29   18:57, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

I did a quick Google search for reviews of Welcome to Our Neighborhood, and it turned up exactly ZERO reviews. I didn't expect many, but I did expect something. I'm sure you probably have something about it, but do you have enough to get GA or will this be another case like Slipknot Demo?  Black  ngold29   22:13, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
 * We could probably do Disasterpieces or Volinial. Or we could switch it up and do a person, just a guess, but Joey would probably the most stuff out there on him.  Black  ngold29   00:48, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I thought one of the GANs would have been reviewed by now, shouldn't be too long. Disasterpieces seems good to do next since its the higest selling thing the band has so far (I have a good feeling about AHIG).  Black  ngold29   15:56, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't think it really matters, if you want work on something else go ahead. Here's the way I see the overall project going right now (based on this): Everything in the first column (the most important stuff) is in good shape, except Disasterpieces and Voliminal: Inside the Nine; and obviously we'll get AHIG up to GA when it comes out (52 days!) (there may be enough for an FA which could possibly give us a FT for the albums, and that would kick ass...but that's still a while off). Moving on to the singles: All need work, most have good info, but lack sources. If we could get into a rhythm with those, like the albums, that would be cool; although some may not have enough for GA, we'll deal with those individually. Last column, members: We should take a look at which ones we have enough stuff about them to get GAs and do them first. The Slipknot band members could be a FL eventually, but as we've discussed there aren't any currently so we have little to base it off; maybe we could find someone who is really experienced with FLs and see what they think we need. As I've mentioned in the past, maybe the former members could be merged into one article, though some might fail WP:BIO1E, I dunno. I think its nice to have the Aof, but if we're the only two working on them I'm not too worried about keeping it updated to the second. I will remove MFKR, and we can discuss what's next whenever you want.  Black  ngold29   22:39, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

RE:Slipknot
Well, then we need an administrator...--  LYKANTROP    ✉  12:00, 5 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Not a problem. Are you gonna ask some admin?--  LYKANTROP    ✉  12:04, 5 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Ok, I'll do that--  LYKANTROP    ✉  12:06, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Re: Slip
Hey, thanks man! We do make a good team, hopefully we're just getting started. As for the former members prose paragraph, that is probably the single greatest idea on the subject that anyone could've come up with. I think one could argue that Anders Colsefini still deserves his own article, since he's still active. But I think we should save any effort we or the Project puts into those articles until very last. I like the picture idea, my first thought was to use a nonagram, but I like yours to goat is a pretty cool symbom that might attract people. I don't know who would be attracted to a goat, but probably more than a nonagram, lol.  Black  ngold29   17:14, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I just meant like a plain nonagram, they can't really copyright a shape can they? Regardless, I think yours is fine. I just hope "Slipknot" is still readable when its shrunk down for the template, its not like we can get around that either since we can't really abreviate it.  Black  ngold29   17:31, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Looks good, I can read it fine. Were you gonna put one on the main page too?  Black  ngold29   17:47, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh wow, I just realized you added the paragraph to Disasterpieces. I'll add more to the intro, go over the whole thing again, I should have it GAN'd within a few hours. We've (you mostly) have done a ton in the past few days, I wouldn't be opposed to a Promotional period for the next Aof, since we'll have three articles that will be up for review any second now. Although, if you wanna keep plowing through and do Volinial, I found a couple reviews on-line, but not too many, as live DVDs don't really have many reviews in general.  Black  ngold29   17:59, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Would you mind throwing a citation on the line about Sid having his camera stolen? It seems like the only statment lacking. Thanks.  Black  ngold29   18:05, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Also, do you think it would benefit from something about the music videos? There's no prose about them.  Black  ngold29   18:07, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry to keep bugging you, last one, do you think the "...subsequently released under Sony BMG rather than Roadrunner Records." line is necessarry or even notable? It would probably also benefit from a citation. Oh wait, we don't even have a release history yet; we'll need that too.  Black  ngold29   18:16, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Mine says Roadrunner too, I don't even think the two are affiliated in anyway. If I recall correctly one of the title cards at the beginning says "Roadrnner records presents". I'll take it out.  Black  ngold29   18:22, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I gotta leave now for a few hours, but should be back later. I'll take care of removing Disasterpieces from the Aof (I think that was the quickest one yet) and the Promo period. Hopefully one of the GANs gets picked up soon.  Black  ngold29   18:36, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

You've probably already noticed, but I figured we should have a template for the Aof, since we have update in manually on three pages every time a new one comes about. This way, we just update the temp once and we're good to go. Feel free to change anything on it.
 * This week in review:


 * 9.0: Live - Up to GAN
 * Mate.Feed.Kill.Repeat. - Up to GAN
 * Disasterpieces - Up to GAN
 * Welcome to Our Neighborhood - (C class, but as good as possible with current sources)
 * Slipknot Demo - (B class, but as good as possible with current sources)
 * I think a promo period is fitting after that. I thought one would be reviewed by now, can't be too long.  Black  ngold29   05:48, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
 * The MFKR GA review went pretty quick, you deserve the credit for that one. On a kind of related note, Do you think we should add something to the article list to symbolize the articles that are done, but too short for at GA? Just to show they've been accounted for. I thought of the Blue GA or something like that. Or would that be overkill?  Black  ngold29   06:30, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I've talked about it with my cousin, who's into most of the same music I am. It's pretty close to his college, but about fourty miles from my house. So there is a chance, but I'm not holding my breath. I would like to go since I picked up the new Disturbed album, and its pretty good and I would also like to see DragonForce live, although I've heard that aren't that great in concert because they're usually drunk. Are you gonna make any of the England shows?  Black  ngold29   19:48, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Porcupine (album) review
I've made the majority of the changes you've suggested. --JD554 (talk) 09:51, 7 July 2008 (UTC)