User:Ryan Postlethwaite/Rfc

Kelly Martin's history on wikipedia
Kelly Martin, was a former arbitrator, gave up her adminship, checkuser, oversight rights during the Giano arbitration case, during this case, the arbitration committee stated that she could only receive these powers back through normal channels. At the same time, the arbitration committee thanked her long and honourable service. The case closed in October 2006, she remained relatively active until January 12 2007 and then went stopped editing until March 2007.

Issues with Kelly Martins behaviour
Kelly has engaged in uncivil behaviour with little respect to other users feelings and disregards WP:CIVIL and WP:AGF.

On April 10 2007, Kelly Martin decided to comment neutral on all RfA's unless the candidate had a wikiproject endorsement. Ryan Postlethwaite contacted her about this to clarify exactly what was meant by a wiki-project endorsement, Kelly replied with a message that fully explained that for a candidate to gain her support in an RfA, they must receive endorsement from a wiki-project. Wooyi then stated the problem was that wikiprojects don't endorse candidates at present, Kelly again replied and further explained herself, she also made it clear that she wasn't opposing candidates, she was simply commenting as neutral. The friendly comments continued for some time further regarding the logistics of the proposal. However, it should be noted, that Kelly has at no time attempted to create the mechanism for wiki-projects offering support for a candidate, and she has only rarely stated on her talk page how the idea may work.

On 23 April 2007, Chrislk02 asked if Kelly was "trying to change the average spectrum, or what is generally accepted on wikipedia through opposition on the RFA process?", to which Kelly replied that she did not accept that accusation. Chris attempted to gain a further insight into what Kelly was trying to propose, and further commented that he was trying to gain an insight into behaviour that some editors were finding disruptive. Kelly then replied asking Chirs not to use capitalised giberish on her page, responding to the widely accepted wiki-links such as WP:RFA which all wikipedians used. Acalamari then expressed his concern that Kelly's comments to Chris "were rude". Chris then actually appologised for using the capitalised gibberish, which many of us will agree was not required. Kelly then attacked chris calling him rude for using capitalised gibberish. Again Chris appologised. Ryan Postlethwaite then suggested that Kelly read WP:CIVIL and WP:AGF, Nae'blis agreed with Ryan that the comments were uncivil. After further comments from all parties, Kelly talked about Chrislk02's comments as not being a productive comment and would not dignify the comment with any further response. At this time, Chris was simply trying to relay a concern that he had, and enter constructive discussion regarding Kellys reasoning for her RfA comments.

On 24 April 2007 Chrislk02 asked had a very legitimate concern regarding the whole wikiproject endorsement proposal, [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AKelly_Martin&diff=125600710&oldid=125599556 he asked "How is having a wikiproject endorsement any different than a nomination from an editor who has worked with them, been around them, seen how they work, not based on merit?" along with further concerns regarding the whole concept]. Kelly removed these as "intrusive comments".

On 27 April 2007, Lankybugger was concerned by a comment Kelly had left in an RfA, Kelly then asked Lankybugger to retract his comment, Lankybugger replied, with a further explanation, to which Kelly told him to go away, and that he should not "defile my talk page with your presence again". Lankybugger, provided further clarification, and this was removed by Kelly as trolling.

As soon as this occured, chrislk02, stepped in and warned Kelly about her civility, this was removed by Kelly with the edit summary "remove unnecessary commentary from emily post wannabee". chris readded the warning, with further clarification of what the warning was for, and what it meant,, Kelly removed it as trolling.

Chrislko2, then decided to leave the project and deleted his userpage, Newyorkbrad then pointed this out to Kelly , Kelly responded calling other users liars , WJBscribe also raised concerns about chris leaving because of Kelly. Kelly responded by saying that Chris should find a less troublesome hobby.

Kelly Martin, has been engaging in some very upsetting editing for other users, accumulating with a very respected administrator leaving the project (but hopefully to return at a later date. Kelly must recognize constructive criticism in the future, and respond in a way that is civil, and that assumes good faith to other users concerns.