User:Ryan Vesey/Ships

Edits to HMS Doterel (1880)
Thank you for your valuable contributions to the page. I am not extremely knowledgeable about ships but am creating articles because there are many red links. Do you know a good place to find sources? In addition, what are the general notability requirements for articles about ships. I would assume that warships and ships that have been wrecked in some way would all be notable but am unsure beyond that. Thanks for the contributions and for any advice you can give me. Ryan Vesey Review me!  01:44, 27 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Ryan, I admired your good work on Doterel. For sources for 19th century RN ships, it's worth establishing the basic facts with Benyon and Davis. Phillips covers a slightly earlier period.  None of these sites really meets the requirements of Wikipedia for reliable sources (see WP:SOURCES), at least not as the only sources for an article, but once you know what happened, then it's worth doing a Google search.  This will often throw up books (which as often as not can be read online), newspapers and other sources that will make great sources.  Of course, there's nothing to beat buying a few good reference books, if you have the funds and inclination.


 * If you're looking more widely at ships and shipwrecks in general, then there are a range of resources online which are very useful. naval-history.net, uboat.net and battleships-cruisers.co.uk have their uses, and for modern ships, digital-seas.com (free to register).  Most of these are UK-centric, and if you want to look at (say) US ships, there are other sites to consider.


 * As for notability, I would suggest that if you can find reliable sources and the subject is interesting enough to write an article, then it's notable enough. Wrecks, especially with loss of life, will nearly always be notable. Royal Navy ships of any significant size will nearly always be notable. Doterel was notable on many fronts - widely reported in the contemporary press and the subject of several parliamentary questions, as well as significant loss of life and the loss of an RN warship in mysterious circumstances.


 * I would suggest that Doterel would make a good subject for DYK. I suggest you read Did you know, and consider proposing the article - I would be delighted to help if you need it. Shem (talk) 08:56, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I'm going to create a subpage for this response so I can access it whenever I need it. As far as DYK is concerned, I actually nominated it last night. Ryan Vesey  Review me!  12:50, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Useful links

 * http://www.csubmarine.org/html/menu_items/links.html