User:Sa.vakilian/Language Practices

No. 1
''Salam. How are you?(Hale shome chetore?) One thing which you may underestimate because of living in the country which has never been invaded is military achievement of Islamic revolution. It's too important for Iran as a country with great and glorify history and vast foreign threats to have strong forces in the country which has been conquered numerous times by foreign invaders and lost important parts of its territory after 1800. People may accept lack of liberty by they can't bear defeat against invaders. Although Shah's army was the 5th army of the world but it was dependent to U.S. weapons and consultants and fight for the U.S. interests. Thus it hasn't legitimacy in Iran.

Independence is one of the most important goal of revolution as people wanted in their slogans. Initially it doesn't have military meaning but the situation of Iran made it necessary. Then Iraq's invasion urged Iranians to improved their techniques and tactics of fighting. On the basis of Islamic ideology which makes martyrdom as a reasonable goal and by using weapons of the U.S. and the U.S.S.R. Islamic republic could develop its own military forces. Iran could defend its territory for the first time after 1800 and even it could defeat invaders in some cases. Islamic republic establishes military industries and its forces with their own Islamic ideology and weapons become powerful. Because of using fragmented and distributed forces there isn't threat of coup while you can see coups in our neighbors like Pakistan and Turkey. Finally these weapons and tactics show their beneficiaries in Israel-Hezbollah conflicts.

Therefor it's one of key issues in legitimacy and performance of Islamic republic of Iran. Although military and police forces of Islamic republic are the most powerful organizations in Iran but they've been supported by public opinion and although liberals who live in Iran criticize some institutions like Guardian Council they have rarely criticized military and police forces. I think we should mention the issue in the section of achievements of Islamic revolution. -- Sa.vakilian(t-c) 05:14, 29 March 2007 (UTC)''

Here's my polishing of what you wrote: --Leroy65X 23:02, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

''Salam. How are you?(Hale shome chetore?) One thing which you may underestimate because you live in a country which has never been invaded, is the military achievement of Islamic revolution. It's extremely important for Iran as a country with great and glorify history and vast foreign threats to have strong forces. Our country has been conquered numerous times by foreign invaders and lost important parts of its territory after 1800. People may accept lack of liberty by they can't bear defeat against invaders. Although Shah's army was the 5th largest army in the world, it was dependent on U.S. weapons and consultants and fought for the U.S. interests. Thus it didn't have legitimacy in Iran.''

''Independence is one of the most important goals of revolution as people expressed in the revolution's slogans. Initially it didn't have military meaning but the situation in Iran made it necessary. Then Iraq's invasion made Iranians improve their techniques and tactics of fighting. On the basis of Islamic ideology which makes martyrdom as a reasonable goal and by using weapons of the U.S. and the U.S.S.R., the Islamic republic could develop its own military forces. Iran could defend its territory for the first time after 1800 and even it could defeat invaders in some cases. Islamic republic established military industries and forces with their own Islamic ideology so weapons become powerful. Because of the fragmentation of forces there isn't a threat of coups while you can see coups in our neighbors like Pakistan and Turkey. Finally these weapons and tactics show their beneficiaries in Israel-Hezbollah conflicts.''

''Therefore it's one of key issues in legitimacy and performance of Islamic republic of Iran. Although military and police forces of Islamic republic are the most powerful organizations in Iran, they've been supported by public opinion and although liberals who live in Iran criticize some institutions like Guardian Council, they have rarely criticized the military and police forces. I think we should mention the issue in the section of achievements of Islamic revolution. --Sa.vakilian(t-c) 05:14, 29 March 2007 (UTC)''

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No. 2
''You may know what martyrdom means in Islam but I want to describe it differently. There is a famous poem in Persian known as "The Conference of the Birds"(Mantiq Alttayr). It has another meaning too, "The logic of fly". Attar tells the story of the birds. This is the summary of this story. Birds gathered and made a parliament and intended to chose Simurgh(Literally means 30 birds) as their king. But unfortunately it wasn't there and they should go to a long trip to reach Simurgh. They appointed Hoopoe as their guide. But because the way was too lond and dangerous every one put forward a reason to stay. Finally Hoopoe persuaded them to go. But most of them stayed or died during the path. Finally thirty one of them reached after passed 7 valleies ( The Valley of the Quest,Love, Understanding,Independence and Detachment, Unity, Astonishment and Bewilderment and The Valley of Deprivation and Death). But what do you think they found there?'' Few years ago some birds again gathered from all over the world. They came from deserts and mountains as well as cities and villages. They came from suburb of Tehran and fields of Khuzistan as well as universities of the U.S. and EU. Do you know them? I can show you some of them. This is the strangest one of them Mostafa Chamran. These are some others:Abbas Doran, Mehdi Bakeri(Who was the mayor of Urmia before war.) Hamid Bakeri(He left his education in Germany and returned Iran after revolution), Asemi(He went to war when Iraq invaded Khorramshar, while he was teenager and then became a great commander). However none of them killed civilians in terrorist attacks. --Sa.vakilian(t-c) 16:18, 14 April 2007 (UTC) Corrected:
 * You may know what martyrdom means in Islam but I want to describe it differently. There is a famous poem in Persian known as "The Conference of the Birds" (Mantiq Alttayr). It has another meaning too, "the logic of fly". Attar tells the story of the birds.[16] This is the summary of this story: Birds gathered and made a parliament and intended to chose Simurgh (Literally means 30 birds) as their king. But unfortunately Simurgh wasn't there and they had to go on a long trip to reach Simurgh. They appointed Hoopoe as their guide. But because the way was too long and dangerous every one put forward a reason to stay. Finally Hoopoe persuaded them to go. Unfortunately most of them stayed or died along the path. Finally thirty one of them reached after passing through seven vallies ( The Valley of the Quest, Love, Understanding, Independence and Detachment, Unity, Astonishment and Bewilderment, and The Valley of Deprivation and Death). But what do you think they found there?--Leroy65X 16:46, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Few years ago some birds again gathered from all over the world. They came from deserts and mountains as well as cities and villages. They came from suburbs of Tehran and fields of Khuzistan as well as universities of the U.S. and EU. Do you know them? I can show you some of them. This is the strangest one: Mostafa Chamran. These are some others: Abbas Doran, Mehdi Bakeri (Who was the mayor of Urmia before war.) Hamid Bakeri (He left his education in Germany and returned Iran after revolution), Asemi (He went to war when Iraq invaded Khorramshar, while he was teenager and then became a great commander). None of them killed civilians in terrorist attacks.--Salam, Leroy65X 14:39, 20 April 2007 (UTC)