User:Seanhempseed/sandbox

Your first article

1	Introduction

2	Search for an existing article

3	Gathering references

4	Things to avoid

5	And be careful about...

6	Are you closely connected to the article topic?

7	Create your draft

8	And then what?

8.1	Keep making improvements

8.2	Improve formatting

8.3	Avoid orphans

8.4	Add to a disambiguation page

9	Still need help?

9.1	Read a traditional encyclopedia

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1	Introduction

Problems with previous article.... While I was mid edit, my article was deleted with criticisms.

I asked at the teahouse:

How can I find the text I was working on in a draft publication (Trumpism) when an editor came over and hastily deleted the entire page and an hour worth of work? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Seanhempseed (talk • contribs) 16:23, 19 November 2018 (UTC)


 * The place to make this request is WP:RFU. However based on this thread User talk:Writ Keeper#Why did you delete Trumpism? Did you read the talk page? Or my contest against speedy deletion? Writ Keeper has given you good reasons why it won't be restored. Please see several of the items at WP:NOT. MarnetteD|Talk 16:39, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

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 * I happened to see your draft before it was deleted, and it was basically an unsourced WP:ATTACKPAGE. I would not expect any administrator to restore it. There are already articles about Donald Trump and the veracity of statements by Donald Trump which you are welcome to improve, as long as your can edit from a neutral point of view. shoy (reactions) 16:42, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for taking the time to make me a better editor! I don't need it restored, I just don't want to be banned for working on it as Writ Keeper threatened he/she/it would do. Where can I "restore" the page for ten seconds, without being banned, where I can work on making it more neutral? Where should I be having this conversation? Seanhempseed (talk) 17:18, 19 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Honestly, I would start over. Start by reading Your First Article, and follow the advice there. Any page you create must be neutrally worded and include references to reliable sources. I would also point out that by nature, politics is a contentious area to be editing in, and if your only purpose here is having an axe to grind, then Wikipedia might not be the right place for you. shoy (reactions) 19:41, 19 November 2018 (UTC)


 * As an administrator, I can and did read your deleted draft, Seanhempseed, and I agree 100% with its deletion. Please read and study the neutral point of view which is a core content policy. As that policy says, "This policy is non-negotiable, and the principles upon which it is based cannot be superseded by other policies or guidelines, nor by editor consensus." Your draft was most definitely not neutral and was a strident advocacy piece. Personally, I am opposed to Trump and express my opinions about him openly on social media platforms but not on Wikipedia. Please also read What Wikipedia is not, which says "Wikipedia is not for advocacy, propaganda, or recruitment of any kind: commercial, political, scientific, religious, national, sports-related, or otherwise." Your draft most certainly was political advocacy and that simply isn't allowed on Wikipedia. The bottom line is that this content is simply not appropriate for Wikipedia and will not be allowed on this website. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 00:10, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

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2	Search for an existing article

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=philosophy&prefix=Talk%3ADonald+Trump%2F&fulltext=Search+archives&fulltext=Search

observations:

There are words, whose use dissuades neutrality: racist, fundamentalist, nationalist, protectionist, supremacist

You cannot call a person "racist". That is not neutral. A good editor probably shouldn't even try to acribe motivations. Let's just stick to the facts. Birthirism is a philosophy of Donald Trump that includes a discussion of President Obama and Trump questioning Obama's heritage and newly the philosphy includes a rightful observation of Trumps want to eliminate the 14th amendment. No reason to discuss his motivations, let's just discuss his philosophy... in a neutral fashion.

You cannot call a person a "liar". That is not neutral. But pointing out that a well respected newspaper states that Donald Trumphas lied, on average, 7.19 times per day since taking office is not biased... it is just a fact. To some people my need to point to that fact in and of itself is cause for their internal feeling meters to start swinging, but at the end of the day if I can support the assertion that "Factism" is an actual philosphy of Trump then it is a fact.

3	Gathering references

4	Things to avoid

5	And be careful about...

6	Are you closely connected to the article topic?

7	Create your draft

8	And then what?

8.1	Keep making improvements

8.2	Improve formatting

8.3	Avoid orphans

8.4	Add to a disambiguation page

9	Still need help?

9.1	Read a traditional encyclopedia