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Jhalkaribai

 * ... that Jhalkaribai fought with the English army in disguise as Queen Laxmibai of Jhansi during the Indian Rebellion of 1857 to let the queen escape easily out of the fort?

5x expanded by Shivashree (talk). Self nom at 09:04, 7 March 2010 (UTC)


 * I would like to see this article on Wikipedia Main Page on International Women's Day if possible. Shivashree (talk) 09:41, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for expansion (verified). We'll see what can we do on such short notice. Meanwhile, I have the following concerns: the article abruptly ends her life description on ".. and declared herself to be the queen Laxmibai" leaving us suspended in the most interesting moment, wondering what happened to her then? Also, when and how did she die? Some phrasing needs brushing up, though this is a more technical issue. Materialscientist (talk) 09:54, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I have added some information in the Life section. Shivashree (talk) 11:20, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
 * You've added a single sentence "Jhalkaribai lived long thereafter and died as a very old woman" which doesn't sound encyclopedic and doesn't solve the problem indicated above. Materialscientist (talk) 08:10, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
 * To say "the English army" (repeating the error in the article) would be misleading, as there was no English army at the time and even the British Army was not the main combatant on the "English" side. The later reference in the Jhalkaribai article to "the company army" (that is, an army of the East India Company) is sharper, but see Presidency armies. Moonraker2 (talk) 12:05, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

(alt) ... that Jhalkaribai fought with the East India Company army in disguise as Queen Laxmibai of Jhansi during the Indian Rebellion of 1857 to let the queen escape easily out of the fort? Shivashree (talk) 11:33, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
 * company army would be okay rather than English army.


 * I have added a paragraph to the life section about her marriage and introduction to Queen Laxmibai. However, despite a long search, I could find no sources about her later life. Whatever I could find revolves around her fight with the tiger, her resemblance with the queen, and the incident of her disguise. It is obvious given that Jhalkaribai's story had never been a part of mainstream historiography. After her only contemporary reference by Vishnubhat Godse, we could find her first reference in Varma'a Jhansi ki Rani written almost after 100 years in 1951. Most of what is written about her in the last two decades has been written viewing her importance sociopolitical aspect rather than keeping an objective historical view. Even the history textbooks describe her story as "trivia" and complete it in one or two sentences (See this). I will try to find sources directly from someone who is acquainted to the subject. The life section of the article can be considered complete till we could find some reliable sources. Shivashree (talk) 03:31, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Pictogram voting keep.svg Offline refs AGF for the alt hook (online ref confirms the fact, though). We can include only what reliable sources say, after all. I believe this is good enough to go, unless Materialscientist or anyone else has any objections? ≈ Chamal talk ¤ 13:22, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks Chamal_N. I have improved the references and provided links (from Google books) to the books used as references. These books are available for preview of Google books and now the facts can be verified easily from them. In fact, when I expanded this articles using these sources, I didn't think it necessary to provide the links as I'd provided the isbn number and thought that anyone who wants to verify the facts can trace the books using ISBN. But finally, I have added the links to make the task easier. Thanks again to Chamal_N, Materialscientist, moonraker2, and others who helped this article to go.  Shivashree ·  talk  04:44, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

L. N. Hardas

 * ... that Babu Hardas started the practice of exchanging the greeting Jai Bhim among the Dalits in India?

Created by Shivashree (talk). Self nom at 12:55, 10 April 2010 (UTC)



Comment: Jai Bhim (Victory to Bhim) is a unique greeting phrase used by seven million neo-Buddhists in India. Online ref to Hardas as the pioneer to this practice is here. It is also given in the article in harvnb format. Shivashree (talk) 12:55, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Symbol confirmed.svg Date, length and hook check out.--Storye book (talk) 17:06, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Shivashree (talk) 02:44, 16 April 2010 (UTC)