User:Sjc/old Talk 3

How would you propose that users alert each other of policies and make suggestions? Hyacinth 04:36, 20 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Something which is exercising me at the moment, frankly. I am (as an admin) drowning in a sea of policy. Something needs to happen to draw all this stuff together. Sjc 04:45, 20 Jul 2004 (UTC)

I applaud your latest, IMO very helpful, msg to User:Francs2000 on Votes for deletion/Heron programming language. Have you considered some form of deprecation of your Vogon poetry msg? --Jerzy(t) 06:35, 2004 Jul 21 (UTC)

Hehe it was a joke but he obviously seems to not understand the concept of humour, due, no doubt in part to his absorption in the works of Pam Ayres, alleged by some to be a humourous poet. Let us see if he can work it out for himself. Sjc 06:44, 21 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Hmmm. Perhaps i am also humor-challenged. --Jerzy(t) 07:25, 2004 Jul 22 (UTC)

Nah :) Looks like a cultural discrepancy. If you have read or been exposed to this abominable woman's "poetry" you would know what I am on about... Sjc 10:01, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)

That's some hardcore refactoring you do here. I'll have to scurry to catch up... but I made a stab at reducing my own page. Thanks for the reminder; now 25% slimmer. +sj + 12:58, 11 Aug 2004 (UTC)

PS - please vote in the Arb Comm elections!

Rune confusion
I did see your comment at Talk:Runic alphabet about creating a sepaarte Rune article, realted to Norse mythology, if I got this right. Does this in any way relates to the double existance of Runic alphabet and Runic script? I would like to merge these articles, but perhaps I should wait, if you want to extract something to the new Rune article. Pjacobi 15:00, 15 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Cornish Wikipedia
Hello. As someone who I have noticed taking an interest in Cornish-related articles I wonder if you would be interested to know that the Cornish Wikipedia looks like it is now going somewhere. Someone had it set up months ago and never did anything with it, then I found it and attempted to lay the foundations for some meaningful contributions by sorting out the main page etc. Anyway, someone with a proficiency in Cornish massively superior to mine has now come along and begun writing articles. As things are now beginning to get moving I wonder if you would be interested in giving a hand. It isn't going to take very much to make kw: the most important Cornish langauge resource on the internet, and once that's been achieved we might see a lot of growth as enthusiastic Cornish-speakers get interested. My original idea was to aim to write a decent article about every village in Cornwall. I think it would be quite something if kw: was able to boast extensive coverage of the Boscastle floods for example, or if there were big articles about the Cornish language &mdash; its history, the revival, controversy over orthographies etc. I would be interested to hear your thoughts, as with you on board there would be three of us actively trying to make a go of the project. Thanks. &mdash; Trilobite (Talk) 03:53, 31 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for following up
Sjc, thanks for your clarification of your original comment on the Slot machine article.

Your original comment didn't have a timestamp, so I didn't realize how much time had elapsed, nor how different the article was when you made your original comment. I'm sorry that I attributed your comment to the later article.

If you do ever find info about slot machines that predate Las Vegas by a hundred years or so, please let me know, as I am focusing my writing on Video Poker (currently categorized on Wikipedia as a type of slot machine), and any relevant history you might dig up would give these article a lot more color.

Thanks for taking the time to follow up on one of my favorite subjects. (similar remarks copied to article talk) --DV 10:26, 2 Sep 2004 (UTC)

P.S.: I noticed you posted the question "Can history ever be NPOV". If you have any interesting article links that go beyond "the victors write history", I would enjoy reading them.

Your VfD threat
Threats are very uncool. 05:29, 4 Sep 2004 (UTC)

See my response on your talk page. Not a threat btw, but a promise. Unencyclopaedic, poorly written, not attributing the author of the quote etc etc, and with the article title incorrectly spelled, it is actually a candidate for speedy deletion imo. Sjc 05:38, 4 Sep 2004 (UTC)


 * Gamaiel uses a Cuban flag, I was using one last week too. You are leaping to harsh conclusions and that's regretable. Also, whatever happened to dialoging on the talk page, Rfc option, mediation option etc? You sound like you are trying to bully me - that's very uncool.


 * In all honesty I tell you that I have only heard it in the plural version. In fact Google returns over 400% more hits for the plural version than the singular version  Let's talk, ok? [[User:Rex071404|Rex071404 [[Image:USA.Flag.20x12.gif]] ]] 05:43, 4 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Re: "Unencyclopaedic, poorly written, not attributing the author of the quote etc etc". FYI: the artcile was originally copied verbatim from the singular version of the same. You did read the edit histories on both, yes?



I have no problem with the Axis of weasels plural whatsoever other than you like many other Americans think that words can be spelt in any way you choose. If you will spell weasels (a word, incidentally, which has a Latin provenance which predates the institution of your backyard of a country by nearly two millenia) as weasles then you can expect it to be subject to criticism. But actually my real problem with this article is that it misses the entire point of whole episode. As have you, to the point where I would honestly, if I were you, reconsider my use of the US flag; I am afraid it only reinforces cultural stereotyping.

Incidentally, to copy verbatim is not only tautologous, it is wrong to the point of being risible. But slavish copying, well that kind of puts it in a proper perspective, does it not? Why recycle so much intellectual slush? That aside, sir, I would be grateful if you would do me a favour and give someone else the benefit of your orthographical inexactitudes. They are frankly irksome. Sjc 05:58, 4 Sep 2004 (UTC)


 * I only copied the text over to avoid the precise complaint of tonight - that being a "redirect" which might bother someone - that and the fact that until tonight, I did not know how to do a redirect. Even so, in light of the display of your olympian linquistic skills, I surmise that you are also intelligent enough to know that 400% more is quite a bit more, yes? Rex071404 06:14, 4 Sep 2004 (UTC)

How's this?: 06:20, 4 Sep 2004 (UTC)

hehe: now try this Sjc 06:27, 4 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Very good - see my typo fixes there too (and strike text above). Issue resolved thanks Peace / out 06:34, 4 Sep 2004 (UTC)

A spatial is only marginally a typo btw :) But then as I am not at the moment using a browser, spatials are somewhat difficult to pick up. But to be quite honest there was no issue, I was merely being humourous about the mispelling of weasels, and you leapt, nay!, plummeted from a great height. We do have an altogether better article out of the other side of it though. Sjc 06:40, 4 Sep 2004 (UTC)


 * Sorry - I am under attack at several different articles.

I'll post the list here later and perhaps you can help. Or, just look at my list of contributions to find them. You are really quite good and helpful - I think you would be a plus on some of them. Also, see that I have "macro'd" out the flags which offended here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Axis_of_weasels (the other I have scattered about over the last few days, will have to wait for another day or simply stay as-is where-is) 06:55, 4 Sep 2004 (UTC)

The flags didn't really offend me, I was just being funny with my Dr Johnson joke. If you must live in a remote parking lot on the wrong side of the Atlantic Ocean, who am I to quibble if you feel the need to put up a large warning sign? I see now you seem to be getting it from a number of directions, and I guess I obviously arrived with my light rejoinder at an inopportune moment. I will mosey on by if I get a chance but I tend to stick to less contentious areas like, er, edit wars about the correct spelling of 10th century viking chieftain names as a rule... Sjc 07:01, 4 Sep 2004 (UTC)


 * Please help here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axis_of_evil if you can (see rv war history) [[User:Rex071404|Rex071404 [[Image:Happyjoe.jpg]] ]] 07:34, 4 Sep 2004 (UTC)

In fairness, looking briefly at it, Vfp15's take is more neutral and thus more encyclopaedic in tone. Bush clearly does have an agenda, and I think Vfp15's position nails it relatively fairly. Politicians attract critics like dogs attract fleas, and this is just another flea bite. Rise above it, is my advice. Sjc 07:55, 4 Sep 2004 (UTC)


 * How can a non-existant usage be more neutral? I googled this and it does not come up as referring religious faith. [[User:Rex071404|Rex071404 [[Image:Happyjoe.jpg]] ]] 08:11, 4 Sep 2004 (UTC)

You are seriously telling me that Bush has no religious faith? Well, he probably doesn't (cynical? moi?) but he certainly pretends to have one. President Bush frequently injects his faith into the public arena - his remark that Jesus Christ was his "favorite political philosopher" was an early warning sign. He frequently uses religious language and imagery, particularly with regard to the US role in the world, and this from where I see it looks proof positive. Sjc 08:18, 4 Sep 2004 (UTC)


 * Your arguments are just that: arguments. But even so, they remain unsupported in proving the issue at hand which is: Is that term being used in the current english lexicon as you suggest that it is? I say you are wrong and as evidenced by the non-existance of any examples of your suggested usage on a Google search, I have provided proof of my view. You, on the other hand, have not. Also, "early warning sign" not "indicator" - who's showing bias here?[[User:Rex071404|Rex071404 [[Image:Happyjoe.jpg]] ]] 19:43, 4 Sep 2004 (UTC)


 * Frankly, if you cannot understand plain English, then I wonder why you asked the question in the first place. Let me spell it out in large letters so that you understand it. BUSH HAS OSTENSIBLY AND DEMONSTRABLY A RELIGIOUSLY MOTIVATED AGENDA WHICH SERVICES HIS OTHER AGENDA, THE NEEDS OF LARGE CORPORATE CONCERNS AND THE WHEELS OF AMERICAN CORPORATE CAPITALISM, WITH ALL THE ASSOCIATED CORRUPTION AND BROU-HA-HA WHICH GOES WITH IT. THERE IS CONSIDERABLE DOCUMENTARY EVIDENCE FOR THIS. WHEN BUSH SAYS HIS FAVORITE POLITICAL PHILOSOPHER IS JESUS CHRIST HE IS MAKING A CRUDE APPEAL TO THE MORONIC BIBLE VOTE IN THE REDNECK ENVIRONS OF YOUR MISERABLE EXCUSE FOR A DEMOCRACY, THIS IS MORE THAN "EVIDENCE", THIS IS A FACT: HE HAS A RELIGIOUS AGENDA. Now please go away and play with your ignorant third-rate flame-wars while I do something productive. Sjc 06:06, 5 Sep 2004 (UTC)

This: "BUSH HAS OSTENSIBLY AND DEMONSTRABLY A RELIGIOUSLY MOTIVATED..." is only your opinion, which for some reason, makes you angry. Perhaps I was wrong about you. Perhaps you do have a short fuse and do leap to conclusions. Oh well. 06:14, 5 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Yawn. I will use a simple expression to explain to you what you need to do now, since the elaboration of the glaringly obvious seems to have bypassed you: fuck off and annoy someone else. Sjc 06:24, 5 Sep 2004 (UTC)

an yeth kernewek
Remember how I asked you about the Cornish wikipedia a while ago?

Well miraculously somebody else got it up-and-running and now its at the point where it could probably use your help, and you'd not be sitting in a room by yourself ;)

Wht it especially needs is user interface translation and stuff like that...

wikipedia in cornish

Node 21:39, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)

kw is more or less doomed from the outset, since it is guaranteed to be riven by the same disagreements as the language is afflicted by, a lack of agreement on orthodoxies of grammar and spelling etc. I also see it as diversionary. I will stroll on by from time to time, but frankly I spend more time researching history and learning languages than I do working on Wikipedia nowadays. Given the high quotient of imbeciles that we now seem to be attracting e.g. see Rex above, I suspect the level of my involvement is likely to diminish proportionate to the increment in the neanderthal count. Sjc 04:46, 9 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Greetings, Press quotes
Hello brother,

I see you've been editing WP:Press coverage recently. Would you be willing to lend a hand with the 'in the press' section of the newsletter? It needs a little attention from someone who is familiar with that page on en:, and with the press we've received over the years. (I think a quick retrospective of the past 2 years would be appropriate for the first edition). Let me know on meta, +sj + 19:47, 9 Sep 2004 (UTC)


 * No translation needed. Some assembly required.  Come to m:Talk:Wikimedia newsletter and I'll lay out what is needed.  Effectively, culling great quotes (from all langs, without translation) and listing those not in english for others to translate.  +sj +  06:25, 10 Sep 2004 (UTC)


 * Excellent. WP:Press coverage and Trophy box should be good starting places (the latter is pretty small right now compared to the former).  Let me know how it's going... I'll be around to go over it late tonight.  +sj +  15:52, 11 Sep 2004 (UTC)